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Thread: North Korea considers missile strike on Guam after Trump's 'fire and fury' warning

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    Exclamation North Korea considers missile strike on Guam after Trump's 'fire and fury' warning

    GUAM/SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea said on Wednesday it is considering plans for a missile strike on the U.S. Pacific territory of Guam, just hours after President Donald Trump told the North that any threat to the United States would be met with "fire and fury".
    The sharp increase in tensions rattled financial markets and prompted warnings from U.S. officials and analysts not to engage in rhetorical slanging matches with North Korea, which regularly threatens to destroy the United States.
    North Korea said it was "carefully examining" a plan to strike Guam, which is home to about 163,000 people and a U.S. military base that includes a submarine squadron, an airbase and a Coast Guard group.
    A Korean People's Army spokesman said in a statement carried by state-run KCNA news agency the plan would be put into practice at any moment once leader Kim Jong Un makes a decision.
    Guam Governor Eddie Calvo dismissed the threat and said the island was prepared for "any eventuality" with strategically placed defenses. He said he had been in touch with the White House and there was no change in the threat level.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-no...-idUSKBN1AO011

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    Just war drums...





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    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Has anyone told Hank Johnson about this?
    "The Patriarch"

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    No one loves war as much as a politician with low poll numbers.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Attack Guam. That will show Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    No one loves war as much as a politician with low poll numbers.
    You can't be talking about Kim Jong Un. Official NoKo government statistics say that he has a 200% approval rating.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    No one loves war as much as a politician with low poll numbers.
    Good thing Trump's numbers have only been going up.
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Good thing Trump's numbers have only been going up.
    I just hope Trump keeps reading your polling data til the end of his term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    You can't be talking about Kim Jong Un. Official NoKo government statistics say that he has a 200% approval rating.
    It is only a meager 100%. He's not a God you know, he is only Godlike.

    In any case, threatening a missile strike on Guam is downsizing for North Korea. They have been saying for years that they are planning to strike pretty much every inch of America. So yeah. They're bluffing, like always. It doesn't get old.

    Nobody will attack them, it's too big of a mess. Too big. Too many reasons not to.

    Similarly, they will not attack. There is nothing to gain for them. NOTHING. They* are evil, not stupid.


    *Those pulling the strings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    I just hope Trump keeps reading your polling data til the end of his term.
    Didn't you make almost precisely the same comment to me almost a year ago

    How did that work out for you?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    Super Ultra Glorious War of The Infamous Hairdos, Aug. 2017 - Aug. 2017.

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    I would really like to hear some NK rep talk to me in English about what their govt is thinking. I am sorry but after they told me that the Iranians want to destroy Israel, I want to get the message from their own mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I would really like to hear some NK rep talk to me in English about what their govt is thinking. I am sorry but after they told me that the Iranians want to destroy Israel, I want to get the message from their own mouth.
    Exactly. No serious mind can trust our government-media-military-industrial complex, especially not after the 20th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I would really like to hear some NK rep talk to me in English about what their govt is thinking. I am sorry but after they told me that the Iranians want to destroy Israel, I want to get the message from their own mouth.
    It would be nice to see an actual translation of ANY given OFFICIAL statement from North Korea, because the MSM/MIC/Neoconservative media only gives their interpretation, usually citing and stringing multiple statements from God only knows who in North Korea. Pathetic journalism.
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    NK Press Review

    http://kcna.kp/kcna.user.article.ret...ist.kcmsf#this

    Pyongyang, August 9 (KCNA) -- The following are major news items and articles in the DPRK's leading newspapers Wednesday:

    A spokesman for the General Staff of the Korean People's Army (KPA) said that the U.S. war hysteria will only bring a miserable end of the American empire.

    A spokesman for the KPA Strategic Force warned that the U.S. should be prudent and avoid any military action which may spark conflict under the present acute situation.

    The DPRK government gave a reception for the government delegation of Equatorial Guinea.

    Papers echo what the public have said of the statement of the DPRK government.

    New stamps were issued in commemoration of the successful test-fire of ICBM Hwasong-14.

    The DPRK ambassador presented credentials to the president of the Presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

    The ASEAN Committee here hosted a reception to mark the 50th anniversary of ASEAN.

    The U.S. imperialists made another military provocation to the DPRK by sending a formation of B-1Bs to the sky over south Korea.

    Articles warn the Japanese reactionaries to stop going frivolous before the merciless nuclear fist of the DPRK.

    A speech made by the DPRK foreign minister at the Ministerial Meeting of the ASEAN Regional Forum.

    Rodong Sinmun

    Respected Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un sent an autographic letter to the State Merited Chorus for having created and performed song "Ode to the Mother Party".

    The paper carries the stanza and score of the song.

    An editorial calls for accelerating the building of a powerful socialist nation under the uplifted banner of the line of simultaneously developing the two fronts.

    "Confrontation maniacs will have to pay a very high price" is the title of an article.

    Minju Joson

    The DPRK premier sent a message of greeting to the prime minister of Pakistan.

    A political essay calls for making hurrah for the spirit of self-development first resound far and wide at all worksites for a great upsurge.

    The DPRK foreign minister sent messages of greeting to his counterparts of ASEAN countries and its secretary general.

    Talks were held between the DPRK vice-premier and minister of Agriculture and the Equatorial Guinean minister of Agriculture, Animal Husbandry and Food.

    Singapore is introduced to mark the 52nd anniversary of its independence. -0-

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    Yep, so we have just about nothing. Except that telling direct quote in the OP of "carefully examining".
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Fear Propaganda Goes Into Overdrive


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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Fear Propaganda Goes Into Overdrive

    Get Inside. Stay Inside... Stay Tuned.

    The other hypocrite: keep it business as usual; go get a burger, go about your daily lives like nothing's happening. American programming is Huxleyan in the main (e.g. business as usual) and Orwellian on the margins (e.g. stay tuned).

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    Stop The Bluster - North Korea Is A Nuclear Weapon State
    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/08...pon-state.html


    The DPRK (North Korea) had announced a miniaturized nuclear device in March 2016. It even published pictures of it.

    North Korea is for all practical purposes a nuclear weapon state
    with the ability to deliver nukes onto the continental United States.

    This is not news.
    Talk about "fire and fury" or an ultimatum to North Korea or of preemptive strikes is all nonsense.

    North Korea has good reasons to want nukes
    and the U.S. missed all chances to remove those reasons.
    It is way too late to lament about that.


    Why North Korea Needs Nukes - And How To End That
    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04...to-end-it.html

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    It occurred to me that this is very convenient. When the economy crashes both sides can now claim war caused it, not the 15-20 trillion in government stimulus over the last decade.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Attack Guam. That will show Trump.
    Well Guam is technically an American island.

    The real deal is that if they can fire a missile to hit Guam they can put it on a sub and strike Alaska easily, and potentially just about anywhere on the US West Coast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Good thing Trump's numbers have only been going up.



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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post


    Thank you CPUd 3.0 for your fake news charts.

    I told you during the election they were bull$#@!, the election proved they were bull$#@!, yet you still post them.

    According to some, you are not only fake news but the definition of insanity.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Thank you CPUd 3.0 for your fake news charts.
    Do you have some alt-real charts to rebut RCP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Do you have some alt-real charts to rebut RCP?
    Why would I need to rebut something that has no credibility to begin with?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Tough boy trump is wagering that he can send more people to die in North Korea than North Korea is willing to to send to kill.

    Seems hopeless at this point. The democrats are still pissed because they can't figure out what bathroom they are supposed to use and most republicans are too busy chanting "build that wall" to realize that we are picking a fight with a country that will cripple our economy. (Unless you are a banker or in the MIC)
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