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    McMaster: U.S. Preparing For "Preventive War" With North Korea

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...ar-north-korea

    The United States is preparing for all options to counter the growing threat from North Korea, including launching a “preventive war,” national security adviser H.R. McMaster said in an interview that aired Saturday on MSNBC. The comments come after North Korea carried out two tests of intercontinental ballistic missiles in the past month and after the president said he has been clear he will not tolerate North Korea's threats to attack the U.S. with nuclear weapons.

    The key excerpts (full transcript):

    H.H.: Let me switch if I can to North Korea, which is really pressing. And– and remind our audience, at the Aspen Institute ten days ago, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Joe Dunford, said, “There’s always a military– option. It would be horrific.” Lindsey Graham on Today Show earlier this week said– “We need to destroy the regime and their deterrent.” Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said on Tuesday, I believe, to North Korea, “You are leaving us no choice but to protect ourselves.” And then the Chairman of the Chief of Staff of the Army said, “Just because every choice is a bad choice doesn’t mean you don’t have to choose.” Are we looking at a preemptive strike? Are you trying to prepare us, you being collectively, the administration and people like Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton for a first strike North Korea?

    H.R.M. Well, we really, what you’re asking is– is are we preparing plans for a preventive war, right? A war that would prevent North Korea from threatening the United States with a nuclear weapon. And the president’s been very clear about it. He said, “He’s not gonna tolerate North Korea being able to threaten the United States” if they have nuclear weapons that can threaten the United States; It’s intolerable from the president’s perspective. So of course, we have to provide all options to do that. And that includes a military option.

    Now, would we like to resolve it short of what would be a very costly war, in terms of– in terms of the suffering of mainly the South Korean people? The– the ability of– of that North– North Korean regime to hold the South hostage to conventional fire’s capabilities, artillery and so forth, Seoul being so close. We’re cognizant of all of that. And so what we have to do is– is everything we can to– to pressure this regime, to pressure Kim Jong-un and those around him such that they conclude, it is in their interest to denuclearize. And there are really I think three critical things, came out of the president’s very successful summit with– President Xi of China that were different– that were different from past efforts to work with China, which has always been, you know, the– the desire, right, to work with China– on the– on the North Korean problem.


    How many casualties will there be:

    HH: In 1994, when the first North Korean deal with signed, the people who executed it, Gallucci, Dan Poneman, Joe Wit wrote a book. And they quoted a general saying, “If there is a conflict,” called Going Critical, “there will be a million casualties.” A million casualties. Is that still a good estimate of what happens if– preemptive strike unfolds in North Korea, General?

    HRM: You know, one thing about war. It’s impossible oftentimes to predict. It’s always impossible to predict the future course of events. Because war is a continuous interaction of opposites, a continuous interaction between your forces and those of the enemy. It involves not just the capability to use force, but also intentions and things that are just unknowable at the outset. And so I think it’s important to– to look at– range of estimates of what could happen, because it’s clear that at war, it’s unpredictable. And so you always have to ask the question, “What happens next? What are the risks? How do you mitigate those risks?” And– and obviously, you know, war is– is– is the most serious decision any leader has to make. And so what can we do to make sure we exhaust our possibilities and exhaust our other opportunities to accomplish this very clear objective of denuclearization of the peninsula short of war?


    Should Americans be concerned:

    HH: How concerned should the American people be that we are actually on the brink of a war with North Korea?

    HRM: Well, I think it’s impossible to overstate the danger associated with this. Right, the, so I think it’s impossible to overstate the danger associated with a rogue, brutal regime, I mean, who murdered his own brother with nerve agent in an airport. "I mean, think about what he’s done in terms of his own brutal repression of not only members of his regime but his own family," McMaster added.


    On Tuesday, Sen. Lindsey Graham said that the president told him there would be a war with North Korea if the regime continues to try to hit America with an ICBM. Appearing on the Today Show, the South Carolina Republican Senator said that President Trump has indicated to him that the administration is prepared to strike North Korea to prevent an attack against the U.S. Pushed on by Matt Lauer on whether a viable military option exists in the region, Graham responded: "They're wrong. There is a military option to destroy North Korea's program and North Korea itself."

    As reported last Friday, North Korea claimed that its latest missiles can now strike anywhere in the United States, delivering nuclear warheads. Experts have said that the country’s missile program has greatly accelerated in recent months putting it far ahead of previous predictions about when it could launch reliable long-range missiles. Speaking to Newsweek in recent days, several experts said that an attack would be the deadliest the U.S. has ever received and potentially kill more than 100,000 people if it struck in large population centers like New York City or Los Angeles.

    “I’m not going to confirm [whether the latest ICBM could reach anywhere in the U.S.] but whether it could reach San Francisco or Pittsburgh or Washington, I mean how much does that matter? It’s a grave threat,” McMaster said.

    He added: “It’s impossible to overstate the danger associated with a rogue, brutal regime."

    McMaster cautioned that he was aware of the fact that any strike against North Korea could bring about a “very costly war” that would cause immense “suffering of mainly the South Korean people.”

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    They naturally plan for all possible events. Doesn't mean they all will happen. Doesn't mean they intend to militarily attack Korea. However, short of any such attack, I see no reason for Korea to abandon their nuclear program. They see it as the most effective deterrent against a US attack.

    And so what can we do to make sure we exhaust our possibilities and exhaust our other opportunities to accomplish this very clear objective of denuclearization of the peninsula short of war?
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    So we have "Preventive War" with yellow people and "Peacekeeping Missions" with brown people "Anti-terrorist Missions" with the blacks....

    And they all mean the same $#@!ing thing...

    These mother $#@!ers in DC need to be strung up for treason! There's no declaration of war

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    It worked so well last time.

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    a month ago their missiles could possibly reach Alaska. last week it was NYC... and Iran's only months away from building a bomb.

    $#@!ing war propagandists!

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    McMaster attended the Bilderberg Conference this year. Trump better get rid of this man because McMaster is not working in America's best interest, he is working in the best interest of the Globalists.
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    The Bush Doctrine is still in full effect. Will we ever again see a President and/or his cabinet that does not run their administration based on this strategy before the end of the state, whenever that may be? It's not looking likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surf View Post
    a month ago their missiles could possibly reach Alaska. last week it was NYC... and Iran's only months away from building a bomb.

    $#@!ing war propagandists!

    been there, done that, failed. let's do it again.
    Exactly. And this isn't about North Korea. This is about Iran. This North Korea hysteria is just prep work to justify an attack on Iran.

    Just today on Fox, some random neocon was on talking about how Iran and North Korea are in on this together. The obvious next step is to attack both nations.
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    McMaster is too busy going after Mike Cernovich to be worried about N. Korea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    They naturally plan for all possible events. Doesn't mean they all will happen. Doesn't mean they intend to militarily attack Korea.
    The intent of the CIA is to justify war. The intent of the Pentagon is to fight those wars. The intent to attack is latent, they do not "plan for all possible events," they manipulate evidence and public opinion to justify endless war. That is all they do.
    However, short of any such attack, I see no reason for Korea to abandon their nuclear program. They see it as the most effective deterrent against a US attack.
    uh-huh, sure. A program they likely jettisoned decades ago will deter US attack? That is not their reasoning, that's the strawman we're suggested to believe. Name one country that's talked it's way out of war with the United States? You can't, because when the US want a war, we always get our war. We've been at war over 90% of our nation's existence, and the US have manufactured all our wars since the USS Maine.
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