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  1. #871
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Moore accusers- fake. Trump accusers- fake. Clinton accusers- real. Deny. Deny. Deny.
    And there are two former waitresses that discredit her account.



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  3. #872
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Roy Moore signature comparisions: (signatures do change over time but these do seem very similar)





    She admitted she wrote the note so it looks like she must have written it all:


    Nolte — Flashback: WaPo Document Expert Said Forged Roy Moore Yearbook ‘Consistent with One Writer’

    Three weeks ago, in a partisan effort to dismiss what is now an admitted forgery, and what at the time was an obvious forgery, the left-wing Washington Post’s Philip Bump (already a proven liar) consulted former FBI agent Mark Songer, a forensics documents examiner, to examine a yearbook produced by one of Roy Moore’s accusers as evidence he assaulted her. The expert concluded that the “writing seems consistent with one writer.”

    The context of when Bump published this piece is important. If you recall, the Washington Post was the news outlet that first broke the story of the Moore allegations, and it was during this time that outside fact-checking of the Post‘s reporting revealed serious lapses, all them pointing to a Moore accuser who manufactured a false narrative.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journal...nt-one-writer/



    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Moore accusers- fake. Trump accusers- fake. Clinton accusers- real. Deny. Deny. Deny.
    The quality of the accusations and evidence is quite different in each of those cases.
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  5. #873
    She said she wrote part of it- not all of it. The first part is in his handwriting.

  6. #874
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Moore accusers- fake. Trump accusers- fake. Clinton accusers- real. Deny. Deny. Deny.
    Has either Moore or Trump left any DNA evidence? Because Clinton did. So, there's that.

  7. #875
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    She said she wrote part of it- not all of it. The first part is in his handwriting.
    That's what she said a month after the story was he wrote ALL of it. Remember WaPo expert said it all looked like it could be from the same hand.
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  8. #876
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Moore accusers- fake. Trump accusers- fake. Clinton accusers- real. Deny. Deny. Deny.

  9. #877
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    She said she wrote part of it- not all of it.
    Find us a link from before 12/8/2017 please and thank you.
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  10. #878
    NeoCon McMuffin throwing in half a million $ to try to stop Moore. Probably because Bannon trashed Romney.

    MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Stand Up Republic, a 501(c)4 group co-founded by former independent anti-Trump presidential candidate Evan McMullin, is spending $500,000 on digital and TV ads that ask Alabama conservatives to reject Republican nominee Roy Moore’s Senate bid.

    In two 30-second spots, the group presents Moore as an unacceptable choice for conservatives — but does not suggest a particular alternative. In one ad, a Republican voter named Robert du Buys works in his yard, recounts his lifetime of party-line voting, and says Moore “makes Republicans and us Christians look bad.”
    hxxps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/12/08/anti-trump-conservatives-place-500000-ad-buy-against-roy-moore/?utm_term=.cf5f3e3fc86f
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
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    ~Resident Badgiraffe




  11. #879
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    She said she wrote part of it- not all of it. The first part is in his handwriting.
    She admitted she wrote the note so it looks like she must have written it all:


    Nolte — Flashback: WaPo Document Expert Said Forged Roy Moore Yearbook ‘Consistent with One Writer’

    Three weeks ago, in a partisan effort to dismiss what is now an admitted forgery, and what at the time was an obvious forgery, the left-wing Washington Post’s Philip Bump (already a proven liar) consulted former FBI agent Mark Songer, a forensics documents examiner, to examine a yearbook produced by one of Roy Moore’s accusers as evidence he assaulted her. The expert concluded that the “writing seems consistent with one writer.”

    The context of when Bump published this piece is important. If you recall, the Washington Post was the news outlet that first broke the story of the Moore allegations, and it was during this time that outside fact-checking of the Post‘s reporting revealed serious lapses, all them pointing to a Moore accuser who manufactured a false narrative.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journal...nt-one-writer/



    She wrote ALL of it, it was ALL written by ONE PERSON and she admitted to writing the note so SHE WROTE ALL OF IT.
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  12. #880
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    That's what she said a month after the story was he wrote ALL of it. Remember WaPo expert said it all looked like it could be from the same hand.
    WaPost noted that the "add on" had problems- especially with the numbers. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.2d8eadd27ac7

    pointed out that “Old Hickory House” and the second date appear to be different stylistically



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  14. #881
    Birmingham, ALABAMA — Delbra Adams, Roy Moore’s former longtime secretary and judicial assistant, says that in 13 years of working for the senatorial candidate she never saw or experienced any inappropriate conduct toward women.

    Adams was working in Moore’s law office during the period that a new accuser claims that he groped her in the same office in 1991 after a meeting. Her desk was right outside his office door at the time.

    “I think he is a good man,” Adams told Breitbart News in an interview. “I don’t believe any of this. I don’t believe it until somebody actually proves it to me. But I never saw anything like that out of him.”

    Asked whether she saw or experienced any inappropriate conduct on the part of Moore at any time, Adams replied, “No. None.”

    She further stated that she is surprised by the allegations against her former boss.


    Adams started working for Moore in 1987 while he was in private practice. She followed him to his new stint as an Etowah County Circuit Judge and continued to work for Moore as a judicial assistant until he was sworn in as Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court in January 2001.

    Adams’ initials – D.A. – have become part of the story involving the allegations against Moore. Adams signed her initials alongside a stamp of Moore’s signature on the 1999 divorce document for Moore accuser Beverly Young Nelson.


    Nelson and her attorney, activist Gloria Allred, have faced questions for failing to disclose at a press conference earlier this week that Moore’s stamped signature is on her 1999 divorce document. Allred and Moore used the press conference to claim that Moore sexually assaulted Nelson in his car in December 1977 or early January 1978 when she was a 16-year-old high school student.

    Alongside Moore’s signature on Nelson’s divorce document is Adams’ initials. Adams explained it is normal procedure for a clerk to initial a stamped signature on a legal document to verify that the stamp is authentic.

    The signature and Adams’ initials are relevant because Nelson has produced a 1977 yearbook which she says was signed by Moore at the time as “Roy Moore DA” and not just “Roy Moore.”

    At the time, Moore was an assistant district attorney. “Roy Moore DA” was the way Nelson’s undisclosed divorce document was signed, with the “DA” initialized by Adams next to Moore’s stamped signature.
    http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2...-dont-believe/
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  15. #882
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    WaPost noted that the "add on" had problems- especially with the numbers. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.2d8eadd27ac7
    Wonder how Delbra Adams initials got there.
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    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




  16. #883
    Never seen Drudge ignore a huge story like this. He must really hate Moore as his 100% negative coverage suggests.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




  17. #884
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




  18. #885
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Wonder how Delbra Adams initials got there.
    She wasn't even Moore's assistant for another ten years (assuming the "DA" refer to her). Also her "DA" is different from the "DA" in the yearbook. Note the odd point at the top of the "D" in the yearbook. Her "D" is fuller, more rounded, and no odd shape at the top. Definitely not her.

    (she would sometimes initial documents if Moore's signature was made with a stamp).




  19. #886
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    She wasn't even Moore's assistant for another ten years (assuming the "DA" refer to her). Also her "DA" is different from the "DA" in the yearbook. Note the odd point at the top of the "D" in the yearbook. Her "D" is fuller, more rounded, and no odd shape at the top. Definitely not her.

    (she would sometimes initial documents if Moore's signature was made with a stamp).



    The liar copied the signature that was followed by "DA" from a later document (like the divorce decree) and she did it in her own poor attempt at forging Moore's writing.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  20. #887
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Roy Moore accuser alters story on yearbook signing, to hold press conference

    hxxp://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/12/roy_moore_accuser_alters_story.html#incart_river_h ome
    ALdotcom has changed the headline of this story to:
    Roy Moore accuser believes her life is in danger, lawyer Gloria Allred says

    Most impressive.
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  21. #888
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    She wasn't even Moore's assistant for another ten years (assuming the "DA" refer to her). Also her "DA" is different from the "DA" in the yearbook. Note the odd point at the top of the "D" in the yearbook. Her "D" is fuller, more rounded, and no odd shape at the top. Definitely not her.

    (she would sometimes initial documents if Moore's signature was made with a stamp).
    You really need to keep up with the story. Whether it is ignorance or intentional $#@! stirring I don't know, but your killing any credibility by not even researching enough to put together a time line.



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  23. #889
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    She said she wrote part of it- not all of it. The first part is in his handwriting.
    Doesn't matter at this point, as the narrative is collapsing faster than the Hindenburg.
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  24. #890
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    She said she wrote part of it- not all of it. The first part is in his handwriting.
    Zippy, you have to understand not everybody is forced to believe this crap. Maybe your situation is different. Do they keep your family hostage? If yes - please call 911, if not - consider taking the red pill.
    Last edited by timosman; 12-08-2017 at 04:47 PM.

  25. #891
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b069ec48ac1aae

    Roy Moore Believes America Was Great During Slavery.

    GOP Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore stunned some listeners when he said he thought America was “great” during the era of slavery. Though he made the comments at a campaign rally in Florence, Alabama, more than two months ago, they’ve re-emerged in a viral tweet just days before the election.

    Back in September, one of the few African-Americans in the crowd asked the candidate when he thought was the “last time” America was great.

    “I think it was great at the time when families were united. Even though we had slavery, they cared for one another. ... Our families were strong, our country had a direction,” Moore responded, according to a Los Angeles Times report in September.

    At the same rally, he also referred to Native Americans and Asians as “reds and yellows,” the LA Times reported.
    Ah, the good old days. When a woman could not afford to live by herself and men owned other men (slavery forcefully broke up families).

    LA Times link: http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...921-story.html

    At Moore’s Florence rally, the former judge outlined all the wrongs he sees in Washington and “spiritual wickedness in high places.” He warned of “the awful calamity of abortion and sodomy and perverse behavior and murders and shootings and road rage” as “a punishment inflicted upon us for our presumptuous sins.”
    At the same event, Moore referred to Native Americans and Asian Americans as “reds and yellows,” and earlier this year he suggested the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks were divine punishment.
    He likes the "good ole days" enough to ride his horse to go vote. http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...olling-station

    OP Senate candidate Roy Moore and his wife will ride horses to their Alabama polling location on Tuesday.

    A schedule released by the Moore campaign for the Dec. 12 election includes “Traditional Horseback Ride to their Polling Location."

    Moore and his wife, Kayla, typically ride horses to every election where Moore is a candidate. They rode horseback to the Alabama run-off, where Moore beat out Sen. Luther Strange to be the GOP nominee, and to the first round of the GOP primary in August.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 12-08-2017 at 04:53 PM.

  26. #892
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Note the odd point at the top of the "D" in the yearbook. Her "D" is fuller, more rounded, and no odd shape at the top. Definitely not her.

    People change handwriting all the time, especially from a young age to an older age. I once used the cursive letters A, B, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, P, Q, S, T, U, V, Y, and Z, until I changed to non-cursive. I have also changed other writing habits. I notice a lot of people do this.
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  27. #893
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Ah, the good old days. When a woman could not afford to live by herself and men owned other men (slavery forcefully broke up families).
    This is out of context horse manure, they obviously left out part of his response, and he clearly acknowledged slavery as a detriment and not part of what was great about it. I think most people here would count any period prior to 1913 as much greater than now.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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  28. #894
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    This is out of context horse manure, they obviously left out part of his response, and he clearly acknowledged slavery as a detriment and not part of what was great about it. I think most people here would count any period prior to 1913 as much greater than now.
    If you were wealthy then, maybe. What would you consider much better then vs today? Life was certainly much harder.

  29. #895
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Does not disprove any allegations.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Writing a note to help you remember it does not mean it did not take place.
    Zippy, here were her exact words at the original press conference. No mention of any notes.

    "He wrote in my yearbook as follows: 'To a sweeter more beautiful girl, I could not say Merry Christmas, Christmas, 1977, Love, Roy Moore, Olde Hickory House. Roy Moore, DA,'" she said.
    https://youtu.be/tHPOm6yIy6k?t=638
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  30. #896
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Zippy, here were her exact words at the original press conference.

    https://youtu.be/tHPOm6yIy6k?t=638
    And now she admits she wrote "part" of it. The "DA" and "Old Hickory House" plus the second date seems to be in a different hand. The first part matches examples of Moore's writing.



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  32. #897
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    And now she admits she wrote "part" of it.
    That is to say, she now says Roy Moore did not do something she previously said he did.
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  33. #898
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    And now she admits she wrote "part" of it.
    Now she admits she was lying, which discredits her entire allegation since that is the only evidence it was based on. The evidence was her word, and the yearbook signature, now both besmirched.
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  34. #899
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    That is to say, she now says Roy Moore did not do something she previously said he did.
    Her writing "part" does not say he did not write the other part. It does look like his handwriting. (see my previous post- edited after yours). Plus there are seven other women also making allegations against him. But the voters don't seem to care anyways. We will find out on Tuesday.

  35. #900
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Now she admits she was lying, which discredits her entire allegation since that is the only evidence it was based on. The evidence was her word, and the yearbook signature, now both besmirched.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...208-story.html


    The inscription reads, "To a sweeter more beautiful girl I could not say, 'Merry Christmas.'" It is followed by the signature "Roy Moore D.A." and the notation "12-22-77 Olde Hickory House."

    Gloria Allred said Friday that a hired handwriting expert found the signature to be authentic.

    "We think it's important evidence that supports Beverly's statements that Roy Moore asked to sign her yearbook when she was just 16 years old. And it demonstrates that when Roy Moore stated, quote, 'I do not know any of these women,' end quote, that statement does not appear to be true," Allred said.

    Allred acknowledged that Nelson added the date and restaurant name below the signature.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 12-08-2017 at 05:54 PM.

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