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    Exclamation Where have all the good men gone?

    So much fail, not even sure where to start.

    You wanted it this way ladies.

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    Where have all the good men gone? These sassy, sophisticated, solvent women say they are struggling to find other halves that can measure up

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar....html#comments

    Five single women share why they've struggled to find men worth dating
    They ask if it is possible to find independent, attractive mid-life daters
    One dating coach says there are seven women for every man aged 40-55

    By ALANA KIRK FOR THE DAILY MAIL

    PUBLISHED: 17:15 EDT, 2 August 2017 | UPDATED: 11:04 EDT, 3 August 2017

    At 48, Jane Townsend is beautiful, independent — and single. She keeps fit, takes great care of her appearance and is looking for a man who is active, in good shape, articulate and emotionally open.

    Given her good looks and vivacious nature, eligible suitors must surely be beating a path to her door.

    Yet as Jane, from Sheffield, explains, it has been a struggle: ‘The men out there are delusional. I went out with a guy who lied about his age, saying he was 47 when he was 50, who then had the gall to tell me he wanted a younger woman so he, as he put it, “could breed”.

    'After my divorce, I gave up my prime dating years to raise my two girls, expecting that when they left home, I’d have time left. But there has been a shift and now the men aren’t there. Where I live it’s hard to find someone cultured unless they’re eating yoghurt, and the men my age all seem to be — well — more than a little overweight.’

    Having been matchmaking single men and women for Femail’s Blind Date column for the past six months, I’d like to say Jane’s experiences are the exception, — but what has struck me is just how many attractive women apply who seem to have so much going for them.

    They are in great physical shape, living full and interesting lives. Yet finding suitable men for them to date seems to be a heroic challenge.

    This has left me wondering why a generation of single, sexy, solvent women just can’t find love. What immediately strikes female mid‑life daters — of whom I am one — returning to the dating scene in later life after a marriage or long-term relationship, is the lack of single men.

    According to Jo Hemmings, a behavioural psychologist and dating coach, there are an estimated seven new women for every man on the dating scene in the 40-55 age group, so availability is clearly a big issue.

    ‘I’ve had clients coming to me wondering: “Am I asking too much to find an attractive, independent, solvent guy of my age?” ’ she says.

    As she explains, part of the issue is that when divorce strikes, men and women react in different ways.

    Men’s relationships frequently overlap; they won’t leave one partner until they find another, so they are never really single.

    By contrast, women take longer to recover from a break-up. They often step out of the dating ring completely, sometimes for many years, to rebuild their lives or to focus on bringing up children.

    ‘When they return to dating, it’s really hard for them,’ says Jo. ‘There aren’t as many men because they have a wider pool. Men realise quite quickly that there are far fewer of them than there are women of a similar age. They then date much younger women, creating a huge void in the market.

    ‘Traditionally women go for men who are their age or slightly older, so they are left wondering where all the men have gone.’

    When Jo coaches women on dating, she tells them to accept the reality. ‘It’s just a fact that there is a lack of available decent men,’ she says.

    ‘It’s tough when you’re looking for love. You have to realise that it’s not about you, it’s just a numbers game.’

    But the numbers don’t tell the whole story. Men, indoctrinated over generations to pursue younger women, are instinctively reluctant to consider those of a similar age to their own, even ones who look youthful and attractive.

    It is something I regularly notice when I set up dates.

    Men need to open their eyes to the amazing women in their own age bracket.

    (Why? Why do men have to do any $#@!ing thing you say? - AF)

    With the statistics against them, women are motivated to want to look after themselves and make the best of what they have, while there is no incentive for the men to do the same.

    Jo says: ‘This generation of men don’t bother to make the effort to represent themselves in an attractive way, even online. Or they just list what they don’t want in a woman and say nothing about themselves — because they can.’

    And those men who do make an effort are in a position to be very choosy.

    Online dating coach Suzie Parkus, of meetyourmatch.club, observes: ‘A man who has aged well, has a good outlook on life, a joie de vivre about him and who has seemingly done well for himself is very attractive to his peers. However, for the most part he is drawn to younger, sexier, more vibrant models.

    ‘It has a lot to do with his self-perception in terms of being able to choose who and what he wants in a partner because he has the right to, given that he is in high demand.’

    While good-looking men can pick and choose, attractive women such as Jane effectively become the victims of their drive to remain active and youthful. Women in the over-45 bracket are the biggest buyers of beauty products, accounting for 58 per cent of the market.

    Last year, the 45 to 54 age group spent an average of £2,238 a year on beauty products, up 4.1 per cent on previous years.

    Jane says: ‘Women see the writing on the wall and take a grip on their health and beauty, staying active, keeping abreast of current affairs, studying, keeping beautiful.

    ‘I go to gym classes (made up mostly of women), whereas men my age just think they don’t have to make the effort because there are always dozens of younger women who will go out with them.’

    A woman who looks great, feels good about herself and is solvent and independent-minded won’t be drawn to a man who has let himself go, or who may be interested in her but is far too old. So these magnificent midlife daters fall into a void.

    And it’s not just about looks — there is a difference in mindset between the sexes too.

    As Jane will attest, middle-aged and 50-plus men tend to be set in their ways, less adventurous and less youthful in outlook. They want someone to look after them, while their female counterparts are looking for someone to explore the world and have fun with.

    Jane was told by one relationship coach that women her age should go for men 15 years older, making her current dating goal a man aged 63. This is even less appealing, as it is effectively a different generation — and one with very different aspirations. ‘I’ve cared for children and my parents, and I don’t want to care for a man again,’ says Jane, summing up the attitude of many in her situation.

    ‘Older men are so set in their ways, you almost feel more like a carer than a girlfriend.’

    Lucy Verner, 46, is another frustrated midlife dater who has been single since splitting from her husband seven years ago.

    ‘I found internet dating absolutely awful,’ she says. ‘I live in East Kent and it’s such a small pool. There are exceptions, but on the whole I found the men who made contact were older — and certainly looked older — than me.

    ‘Men of my age target younger women and I don’t fancy the older men, so it’s a real problem. I’ve stopped looking. Having to get back in the dating market, I focused on getting myself fit again. But many men don’t seem to make the same effort.

    ‘Online you see selfie pictures they have taken of themselves half-naked in bathrooms or slouching on sofas. Where is the effort in that?

    ‘Very few men are happy to be by themselves, too. They lurch from one relationship to another, whereas middle-aged women are a lot stronger and more self-assured than they were in the last generation.

    ‘I have two children and a career to manage and I’m forthright. I think men find women like me intimidating.

    ‘I want a strong, independent man. Why is that so hard?’


    (So you are intimidating, but you want a "strong" man. And the first time he shut your silly ass down "strongly" over some issue, you'd release such a $#@!storm of "I am woman hear me roar!", he'd head for the hills. - AF)

    Julia Van Der Wens is 54. She was just 19 years old when she got married, and was with her husband for more than 30 years before he left her 18 months ago.

    ‘I was devastated, of course, but I made the decision to keep on living my life. I lost weight, started getting into sport and now I look and feel the best I’ve ever been.

    ‘The problem isn’t the men not liking me, but me not fancying them. I want someone athletic, not pot-bellied. Most of the men I meet seem really unfit.

    ‘I tried dating websites but two of the men I met were at least ten years older than their photo. Sometimes I think I’m never going to meet anyone.’

    Lesley Roberts, 52, was married in her 20s and divorced in her 30s. She did meet someone new, but they split up after a couple of years and she has now been single for two years.

    ‘Men my age are all up for a pipe and slippers life, and I’m not,’ she says. ‘When I got married my husband was six years older than me, but I wouldn’t take that age gap now because men aged 52 to 60 are boring. They just don’t have any oomph in them.

    ‘Once they get past 48 they seem to turn into Victor Meldrew, yet women are making an effort and looking great. I just decided that I wasn’t going to go down without a fight. I was going grey, so I went blonde.

    ‘At this stage of my life I need someone who is independent. I’ve set the bar now and I don’t want someone who needs looking after —unless he shows he can look after me first.’

    Very few men are happy to be by themselves, too. They lurch from one relationship to another, whereas middle-aged women are a lot stronger and more self-assured than they were in the last generation

    Should middle-aged women just forget men of their own age and date younger ones? Some argue that this is the way forward.

    ‘Younger men are drawn to older women as much as older men are drawn to younger women. And this is not a new phenomenon,’ says Suzie Parkus. ‘They are drawn to the confidence and life experience of older women, especially those who don’t look their age.

    ‘This is something I have experienced at first hand, as well as being told it by younger guys when I was matchmaking.’

    Laura Hall agrees. Tall, slim and gorgeous, the 42-year-old redhead has been single since her divorce in 2011.

    Smart and sassy, Laura has a doctorate in physics and works as an optical engineer, yet she finds the dating sites full of men her age and older who just seem lazy.

    ‘I prefer younger men now because they are fun, whereas the older ones are boring,’ she says. ‘It’s not even an aesthetic thing but a character thing. I can’t stand the fact that older men really don’t know how to support themselves.

    ‘I think women have been raised to believe they are winning an amazing prize to get a man, who then has a sense of entitlement — so he puts in no effort whatsoever and always thinks he can get better.’

    Yet for many women, dating a much younger man still comes with too much baggage — and again, the playing field is not a level one.

    Jane Townsend says she is often approached by men in their 20s.

    ‘The last date I went on he was 23 — and he was interesting and articulate and we had lots in common. But society says I shouldn’t be dating men like him.

    ‘I’m called a cougar — which makes me out to be predatory — yet it’s perfectly acceptable for men to go out with Barbies half their age.’

    I know from my experience of talking to women who write in for a blind date how many want a younger man because men of their own age just don’t appeal any more.

    Unless men change their attitude to dating women of a similar age to them, and make more effort with their personal care (and most women accept this is unlikely), it is hard to see how the situation can change for these gorgeous women.

    But Jo Hemmings says we can still take heart. Her advice is to go online frequently, make the approach, don’t rule out meeting people in real life and be as socially active as you can.

    ‘Knowledge is power, so get the determination to take charge,’ she says.

    ‘You’ve got to make the choice to be that one woman in seven. It’s tough but possible.’
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 08-03-2017 at 11:09 PM.
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    This has left me wondering why a generation of single, sexy, solvent women just can’t find love. What immediately strikes female mid‑life daters — of whom I am one — returning to the dating scene in later life after a marriage or long-term relationship, is the lack of single men.
    There are LOTS of single men...

    Finding one who'll put up with almost 50 years of baggage and attitude is, as you're discovering, quite difficult...

    Leaving you with only two choices if you want more than a one night stand..

    1) Loose the attitude, be friendly and accommodating and maybe he'll stick around...

    2) Find some guy who needs a meal ticket that'll put up with your $#@! for a free ride...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    There are LOTS of single men...

    Finding one who'll put up with almost 50 years of baggage and attitude is, as you're discovering, quite difficult...

    Leaving you with only two choices if you want more than a one night stand..

    1) Loose the attitude, be friendly and accommodating and maybe he'll stick around...

    2) Find some guy who needs a meal ticket that'll put up with your $#@! for a free ride...
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    If women can't find any "solvent" available men their age, 40-55, it's probably because other bitches, like themselves, ditched their "solvent" partners because...emotionally unhappy... and made their former solvent partners insolvent. Reap what you sow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    There are LOTS of single men...

    Finding one who'll put up with almost 50 years of baggage and attitude is, as you're discovering, quite difficult...

    Leaving you with only two choices if you want more than a one night stand..

    1) Loose the attitude, be friendly and accommodating and maybe he'll stick around...

    2) Find some guy who needs a meal ticket that'll put up with your $#@! for a free ride...
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    If women can't find any "solvent" available men their age, 40-55, it's probably because other bitches, like themselves, ditched their "solvent" partners because...emotionally unhappy... and made their former solvent partners insolvent. Reap what you sow.
    This...and that.

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    Personally , I am in the lazy pipe and slippers mode and do not give a crap. If anything happened to Mrs O I would probably have to lock the gate to keep them out .Sounds like these girls want to relive the youth that slipped by , go ahead , just be bright enough to realize the avg 50 or 60 yr old " real" guy is not going to be all that interested in that .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Personally , I am in the lazy pipe and slippers mode and do not give a crap. If anything happened to Mrs O I would probably have to lock the gate to keep them out .Sounds like these girls want to relive the youth that slipped by , go ahead , just be bright enough to realize the avg 50 or 60 yr old " real" guy is not going to be all that interested in that .
    That's what it sounds like to me, too.

    I thought it was funny how they were being hard on men's looks and then bitching that the men they wanted to date were going for younger women. These women sound like they have the mentality of a 15 year old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    That's what it sounds like to me, too.

    I thought it was funny how they were being hard on men's looks and then bitching that the men they wanted to date were going for younger women. These women sound like they have the mentality of a 15 year old.
    Yep , reading that list of grievances they sounded like they were 16 .
    Do something Danke

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    I was thinking it doesn't have to be more complicated than the fact that the good men are still with their women, and if they're not, it's not their fault, and they're not falling for that $#@! again, and have basically stopped being "good".
    It's not rocket science. Guys that got $#@! on look for the free milk and to hell with buying the cow.
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    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    The way I look at it, the women in the story are complaining that the available suitors for them aren't on their levels and they don't want to settle. And to that I say "You go girl". I am that way too, I would hold out till the end if the right person doesn't come around. They don't want fat, lazy, unmotivated partners and some people think that is a problem?

    The issue for the men is that it is a buyers market for them and they have very little incentive to improve their product.

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    If something happened to my husband, there is very little chance I would marry again. I have been married for almost 38 years to a handsome, um, virile, interesting man. We haven't had a lot of money, but we have enough. I cannot imagine a man in his 70's would bring anything special to the game except money. I need more from a man, and I sure would not want to put myself so close to widowhood again, no matter how much money he would leave behind. I have an awesome daughter and son in-law who have four exceptional kids. I do not want to have to deal with someone else's spoiled, entitled, jealous kids. Not even a little bit.
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    Gone to graveyards, everyone.
    When will they ever learn?

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    These sassy, sophisticated, solvent women...
    Well, they got one outa three right anyway.






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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    The way I look at it, the women in the story are complaining that the available suitors for them aren't on their levels and they don't want to settle. And to that I say "You go girl". I am that way too, I would hold out till the end if the right person doesn't come around. They don't want fat, lazy, unmotivated partners and some people think that is a problem?

    The issue for the men is that it is a buyers market for them and they have very little incentive to improve their product.
    They are the ones bitching, not me.

    If I was "on the market", I wouldn't get wound up with one of these harridans, if you paid me.

    Beneath the fake smiles for the article, I can clearly see the outline of the "resting bitch face".

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    I was thinking it doesn't have to be more complicated than the fact that the good men are still with their women, and if they're not, it's not their fault, and they're not falling for that $#@! again, and have basically stopped being "good".
    It's not rocket science. Guys that got $#@! on look for the free milk and to hell with buying the cow.
    They admit it themselves:

    but I wouldn’t take that age gap now because men aged 52 to 60 are boring.
    And that's lots of women in all age groups.

    Alpha $#@!s, Beta bucks.

    You become "solvent" by being "boring"...you know, working a stable job year in and year out, paying your bills on time, not being scared to answer the phone because it's collection agencies and on and on.

    But that's "boring".

    No "-gina tingles" in that.



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    They are likely all in the Live Free or Die state. Where else would they be? Commiefornia?
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    It's no wonder that you have so much of this going on in this country:


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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    If something happened to my husband, there is very little chance I would marry again. I have been married for almost 38 years to a handsome, um, virile, interesting man. We haven't had a lot of money, but we have enough. I cannot imagine a man in his 70's would bring anything special to the game except money. I need more from a man, and I sure would not want to put myself so close to widowhood again, no matter how much money he would leave behind. I have an awesome daughter and son in-law who have four exceptional kids. I do not want to have to deal with someone else's spoiled, entitled, jealous kids. Not even a little bit.
    If the right guy came along, I would shack with him but I wouldn't get remarried either. I can't imagine living alone. I would be a sadanimal.

    If I can't find a nice man who will put up with me, I hope Danke will still take me in even though he defriended me.
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    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
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    Not too difficult to see why the "boring" set might find these women intimidating... tho currently happily married, unlikely I'd marry again. Don't need sassy, sophisticated & solvent... just real.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Five single women share why they've struggled to find men worth dating
    They ask if it is possible to find independent, attractive mid-life daters
    One dating coach says there are seven women for every man aged 40-55
    Sounds like a fun date to me. I don't see the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    Not too difficult to see why the "boring" set might find these women intimidating... tho currently happily married, unlikely I'd marry again. Don't need sassy, sophisticated & solvent... just real.
    I don't think 'intimidating' is the right word here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    If the right guy came along, I would shack with him but I wouldn't get remarried either. I can't imagine living alone. I would be a sadanimal.

    If I can't find a nice man who will put up with me, I hope Danke will still take me in even though he defriended me.
    I have family with whom I am close. I would move nearer them and enjoy being a grandmother. I am community minded. I will have plenty to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I have family with whom I am close. I would move nearer them and enjoy being a grandmother. I am community minded. I will have plenty to do.
    I have a close family, too but I'm not willing to live without the things you can't do with family.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.



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    Ever since I saw this headline, I haven't been able to get this song outta my head.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Oh, sorry, I'm taken. Ya shnooze, ya lose.

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    Makes me wanna watch Footloose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I have a close family, too but I'm not willing to live without the things you can't do with family.
    I hear you. I don't think I want to spend the rest of my life training someone how to do it right. My husband is 57, fit and ready any time I want. From what I hear, that's not the case for most at that age, and it gets worse if there is hbp or diabetes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I hear you. I don't think I want to spend the rest of my life training someone how to do it right. My husband is 57, fit and ready any time I want. From what I hear, that's not the case for most at that age, and it gets worse if there is hbp or diabetes.
    Just stop taking your high blood pressure medication and you are good. If anything people with high blood pressure should be able to perform better than people with average or low blood pressure. Not the case for people with diabetes.

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    I'm not on hbp meds. Husband isn't either. We are relatively healthy for people our age. Life is manageable and intimacy is good.
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