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    Trump Signs Sanctions Bill - Another Deep State Victory



    This morning President Trump signed the Russia, Iran, North Korea sanctions bill, which restricts his ability to improve relations with any of the three countries absent explicit Congressional approval. Is the deep state in total control of US foreign policy?
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    But Trump is fighting the deep state and the neocons... didn't you get the memo? lol
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    @2:50 - Ron said

    Some days I am happy that tillerson is there doing a bit of challenging on this(sanctions)
    Does anyone know what challenging of the sanctions Ron is talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    @2:50 - Ron said Some days I am happy that tillerson is there doing a bit of challenging on this(sanctions)

    Does anyone know what challenging of the sanctions Ron is talking about?
    Neither President Donald Trump nor Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is a fan of the new congressional sanctions on Russia, particularly because they may hinder attempts at restoring the relationship between the two countries, the top U.S. diplomat admitted Tuesday.

    "The action by the Congress to put these sanctions in place and the way they did, neither the president nor I were very happy about that," Tillerson told reporters in the State Department briefing room. "We were clear that we didn't think it was going to be helpful to our efforts, but that's the decision they made. They made it in a very overwhelming way. I think the president accepts that."


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    Quote Originally Posted by loveshiscountry View Post
    Neither President Donald Trump nor Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is a fan of the new congressional sanctions on Russia, particularly because they may hinder attempts at restoring the relationship between the two countries, the top U.S. diplomat admitted Tuesday.

    "The action by the Congress to put these sanctions in place and the way they did, neither the president nor I were very happy about that," Tillerson told reporters in the State Department briefing room. "We were clear that we didn't think it was going to be helpful to our efforts, but that's the decision they made. They made it in a very overwhelming way. I think the president accepts that."


    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/presi...ry?id=48981626
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    Trump made a good call as a politician. Libertarian souls can bitch all they want about principles and being conned. Trump is going to disappointed again. I have enough hairchest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I thought Trump was the alpha male, what the hell is going on here?
    Trump got outvoted by congress, he got only 2 votes in the senate and 3 in the House. Better get to work in 2018 primaries.
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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul.
    "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne
    "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    Only 3 congressman with a brain.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul.
    "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne
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    Quote Originally Posted by loveshiscountry View Post
    Neither President Donald Trump nor Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is a fan of the new congressional sanctions on Russia, particularly because they may hinder attempts at restoring the relationship between the two countries, the top U.S. diplomat admitted Tuesday.

    "The action by the Congress to put these sanctions in place and the way they did, neither the president nor I were very happy about that," Tillerson told reporters in the State Department briefing room. "We were clear that we didn't think it was going to be helpful to our efforts, but that's the decision they made. They made it in a very overwhelming way. I think the president accepts that."


    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/presi...ry?id=48981626
    I guess, he is right, he qualified it by saying "a bit". To me that is nothing but I guess Ron Paul thinks that is big enough to quantify. I personally think the whole thing is an act. They are all anti Russia, all globalists and another thing, no Ron, the CIA/deep state did not sabotage Obama in Syria by attacking Syrian troop and the deep state did not sabotage Trump by congress passing this bill.
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    It's pretty obvious what Trump is doing, he signed this to make the deep state look bad, to lower their influence, so that when the time comes, he can do the things he wants to do like appoint Judge Napolitano to the supreme court.
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    Nothing sez aloha, like Tulsi Gabbard voting for sanctions.

    Good thing T and T are on the same page about peace.

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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul.
    "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne
    "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    Yeah...please tell me how the "deep state" forced poor old Trump to sign that piece of $#@! bill with his pen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    Yeah...please tell me how the "deep state" forced poor old Trump to sign that piece of $#@! bill with his pen?
    Because there wasn't nearly enough votes to veto it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Because there wasn't nearly enough votes to veto it?
    Would it not have been better for Trump to force them to override his veto?
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    Author of, War is a Racket!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    Would it not have been better for Trump to force them to override his veto?
    Yep. My point. There were three congressmen who understand this.
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