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    Trump Signs Sanctions Bill - Another Deep State Victory

    Trump Signs Sanctions Bill - Another Deep State Victory



    This morning President Trump signed the Russia, Iran, North Korea sanctions bill, which restricts his ability to improve relations with any of the three countries absent explicit Congressional approval. Is the deep state in total control of US foreign policy?
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    But Trump is fighting the deep state and the neocons... didn't you get the memo? lol
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    @2:50 - Ron said

    Some days I am happy that tillerson is there doing a bit of challenging on this(sanctions)
    Does anyone know what challenging of the sanctions Ron is talking about?

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    loveshiscountry
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    @2:50 - Ron said Some days I am happy that tillerson is there doing a bit of challenging on this(sanctions)

    Does anyone know what challenging of the sanctions Ron is talking about?
    Neither President Donald Trump nor Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is a fan of the new congressional sanctions on Russia, particularly because they may hinder attempts at restoring the relationship between the two countries, the top U.S. diplomat admitted Tuesday.

    "The action by the Congress to put these sanctions in place and the way they did, neither the president nor I were very happy about that," Tillerson told reporters in the State Department briefing room. "We were clear that we didn't think it was going to be helpful to our efforts, but that's the decision they made. They made it in a very overwhelming way. I think the president accepts that."


    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/presi...ry?id=48981626

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    Quote Originally Posted by loveshiscountry View Post
    Neither President Donald Trump nor Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is a fan of the new congressional sanctions on Russia, particularly because they may hinder attempts at restoring the relationship between the two countries, the top U.S. diplomat admitted Tuesday.

    "The action by the Congress to put these sanctions in place and the way they did, neither the president nor I were very happy about that," Tillerson told reporters in the State Department briefing room. "We were clear that we didn't think it was going to be helpful to our efforts, but that's the decision they made. They made it in a very overwhelming way. I think the president accepts that."


    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/presi...ry?id=48981626
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I thought Trump was the alpha male, what the hell is going on here?
    Trump got outvoted by congress, he got only 2 votes in the senate and 3 in the House. Better get to work in 2018 primaries.
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    Only 3 congressman with a brain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loveshiscountry View Post
    Neither President Donald Trump nor Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is a fan of the new congressional sanctions on Russia, particularly because they may hinder attempts at restoring the relationship between the two countries, the top U.S. diplomat admitted Tuesday.

    "The action by the Congress to put these sanctions in place and the way they did, neither the president nor I were very happy about that," Tillerson told reporters in the State Department briefing room. "We were clear that we didn't think it was going to be helpful to our efforts, but that's the decision they made. They made it in a very overwhelming way. I think the president accepts that."


    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/presi...ry?id=48981626
    I guess, he is right, he qualified it by saying "a bit". To me that is nothing but I guess Ron Paul thinks that is big enough to quantify. I personally think the whole thing is an act. They are all anti Russia, all globalists and another thing, no Ron, the CIA/deep state did not sabotage Obama in Syria by attacking Syrian troop and the deep state did not sabotage Trump by congress passing this bill.

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    It's pretty obvious what Trump is doing, he signed this to make the deep state look bad, to lower their influence, so that when the time comes, he can do the things he wants to do like appoint Judge Napolitano to the supreme court.
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    Nothing sez aloha, like Tulsi Gabbard voting for sanctions.

    Good thing T and T are on the same page about peace.

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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    Yeah...please tell me how the "deep state" forced poor old Trump to sign that piece of $#@! bill with his pen?
    The wisdom of Swordy:

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    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

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    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    Yeah...please tell me how the "deep state" forced poor old Trump to sign that piece of $#@! bill with his pen?
    Because there wasn't nearly enough votes to veto it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Because there wasn't nearly enough votes to veto it?
    Would it not have been better for Trump to force them to override his veto?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    Would it not have been better for Trump to force them to override his veto?
    Yep. My point. There were three congressmen who understand this.
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined

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    President Trump extends Russian sanctions for another year

    This plus the recent addition on 22 February of 21 individuals and nine companies to the US Sanctions list, shows the continued foreign policy direction of the United States as more of the same. There was no related comment released thus far that shows any reaction of the Trump Administration to the extraordinary speech given by Russian President Vladimir Putin yesterday concerning extremely highly advanced new weapons technologies already said to be deployed in Russia. ...
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    He signed this to make the deep state look bad, to lower their influence
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