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    Ha!Ha! Ha! This must've pissed McCain off royally! (Your days are numbered McCain! )

    http://thehill.com/policy/defense/34...ense-bill-vote

    Paul blocks McConnell from setting up defense bill vote

    Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) blocked Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's (R-Ky.) request early Friday morning for the chamber to advance the annual defense funding bill.

    McConnell made the request in the immediate aftermath of the Senate's shocking rejection of a scaled-back bill to repeal parts of ObamaCare, asking for unanimous consent to proceed to the defense legislation.

    Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer, who rejected Sen. John McCain's request on Thursday to pause the healthcare debate and move on to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), said after the healthcare vote that he would let the bill move forward.

    But Paul, who has been among the Senate's most vocal ObamaCare critics, voiced an objection to McConnell's request without explaining why, stalling proceedings on the NDAA, which is typically one of the least controversial spending bills.

    Instead, the Senate will take up judicial nominations when lawmakers meet on Monday.


    "Senator Rand Paul requested two bipartisan amendments, one on ending indefinite detention and one on AUMFs," said Paul communications director Sergio Gor, referring to authorizations for the use of military force.

    "He looks forward to working with leadership and the committee to get this done soon."

    http://thehill.com/policy/defense/34...ense-bill-vote
    Hope Rand keeps doing things that aggravate McCain!

    UPDATE! More laffs!

    GOP Sen. John McCain criticized GOP Sen. Rand Paul for blocking the annual defense budget bill from moving forward for a quick vote Friday, as now McCain is expected to leave for cancer treatment Monday.

    Although the National Defense Authorization Act was a key item on the agenda for McCain, Paul stepped in to block the bill by requesting two amendments be added to the legislation, namely one on prohibiting indefinite detention and one on the authorization of the use of military force to fight the Islamic State.

    McCain’s frustration with Paul stems from his desire to pass the NDAA as soon as possible, mostly because he leaves to Arizona on Monday to begin cancer treatment, according to sources who spoke with CNN. As CNN noted, the fact that McCain is leaving Monday helps to explain why GOP Sen. Mitch McConnell would let the NDAA vote occur in the midst of a heated debated on health care reform.

    “For 55 years in a row, Congress has passed the National Defense Authorization Act, which provides our men and women in uniform with the resources, capabilities, and pay and benefits that they need to perform their missions on behalf of the American people and keep our country safe,” McCain, chairman of the Senate Committee on Armed Services, said in a statement. “This legislation is more vital than ever.”

    “The highest responsibility of every member of Congress is to do what they think is right for the nation. It is unfortunate that one senator chose to block consideration of a bill our nation needs right now, the National Defense Authorization Act,” McCain added. “...blah, blah, blah, etc....

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/28/mc...nse-bill-vote/
    Last edited by Valli6; 07-28-2017 at 01:34 PM.



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    This is as close as Rand can get to dancing and spitting on McPain's grave. Many happy returns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    This is as close as Rand can get to dancing and spitting on McPain's grave. Many happy returns.
    Agreed. Rand needs to keep hammering him. All the GOP'ers I know are pissed at McCain over the repeal 'nay' vote. His non-conservatism needs to be kept in the lime light. Unfortunately his illness garners him some sympathy so Rand can't go into all out attack mode without looking callous.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Agreed. Rand needs to keep hammering him. All the GOP'ers I know are pissed at McCain over the repeal 'nay' vote. His non-conservatism needs to be kept in the lime light. Unfortunately his illness garners him some sympathy so Rand can't go into all out attack mode without looking callous.
    Yup
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    as if it matters if McCain is there to vote on the NDAA, it aint like that is going to be a close vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    as if it matters if McCain is there to vote on the NDAA, it aint like that is going to be a close vote.
    No. It won't matter. But, if McCain missed it, it would surely break his black heart. And that's not a bad thing.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    This is as close as Rand can get to dancing and spitting on McPain's grave. Many happy returns.
    If the old buzzard has a heart attack over this can't say I'd cry.
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    I was so busy gloating over McCain's disappointment, that I didn't even pay attention to the two amendments Rand added;

    1) end indefinite detention
    2) authorization to use military force.

    The first article I posted just barely alluded to these at the very end of the piece. At the beginning, they featured the "objection... without explaining why" angle. Both are issues that have been raised repeatedly over the years, and are pretty standard "Rand" - so McCain really should've been expecting them to come up, no? Did he forget? Expect a pass because of his condition? Was he taking too many painkillers to worry about it? hmmm...

    Yeah, I guess we can't expect a halt to any spending bill just because McCain isn't there - particularly war funding - but maybe some of Rand's bipartisian work will pay off and something positive will be done about these two issues before it goes through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    I was so busy gloating over McCain's disappointment, that I didn't even pay attention to the two amendments Rand added;

    1) end indefinite detention
    2) authorization to use military force.

    The first article I posted just barely alluded to these at the very end of the piece. At the beginning, they featured the "objection... without explaining why" angle. Both are issues that have been raised repeatedly over the years, and are pretty standard "Rand" - so McCain really should've been expecting them to come up, no? Did he forget? Expect a pass because of his condition? Was he taking too many painkillers to worry about it? hmmm...

    Yeah, I guess we can't expect a halt to any spending bill just because McCain isn't there - particularly war funding - but maybe some of Rand's bipartisian work will pay off and something positive will be done about these two issues before it goes through.
    I'm sure that McCain will brief Graham on what needs to be done. Grahams 'yay' vote came about from McCain assuring him that the votes were in to kill it and that Lindsey could get a vote on record as being for repeal. If McCain hadn't gotten enough votes you know damn well he could have gotten Lindsey to do his part.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Make fun, buddy.
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    LOL! The best McSame can argue is that "we've done it this way for 55 years." Further reinforcing his stale, moss covered caricature, and unwittingly lampooning himself. As for me, I prefer soldiers that don't get captured.

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    Last edited by anaconda; 07-31-2017 at 10:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Agreed. Rand needs to keep hammering him. All the GOP'ers I know are pissed at McCain over the repeal 'nay' vote. His non-conservatism needs to be kept in the lime light. Unfortunately his illness garners him some sympathy so Rand can't go into all out attack mode without looking callous.
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    Good! That puts it off for awhile. Time to hammer your senator.

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