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Thread: Would you support me if I decided to run for political office?

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    Default Would you support me if I decided to run for political office?

    I'm just posting a poll to try to gauge people's support if I were to run for state representative. I live in Kansas where they just passed a massive 1.2 billion tax increase. My representative is a liberal Republican who voted for that tax increase. He and all of the other big government Republicans in Kansas need to be replaced in the next election. I know that in the past people on this forum have had plenty of disagreements with me, and I'm seen as one of the more "moderate" members of the forum. But, I just thought I would ask anyway and see if anyone would be willing to donate money to my campaign for state representative if I choose to run. (Even if it's only a small amount)



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    Absolutely.

    I might even write yo ace a speech if'n ya needed. We can get a posse up on the overpass with some signs and stuff, too.
    Last edited by Natural Citizen; 07-23-2017 at 03:01 PM.

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    The more Ron Paul people in office the better, regardless of "moderation".

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    Yes . but I may ask for favors later .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    The more Ron Paul people in office the better, regardless of "moderation".
    ^^^This^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    The more Ron Paul people in office the better, regardless of "moderation".
    There are only a few people on this site that I wouldn't support. It's hard not to be an improvement over the typical politician.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    I'm just posting a poll to try to gauge people's support if I were to run for state representative. I live in Kansas where they just passed a massive 1.2 billion tax increase. My representative is a liberal Republican who voted for that tax increase. He and all of the other big government Republicans in Kansas need to be replaced in the next election. I know that in the past people on this forum have had plenty of disagreements with me, and I'm seen as one of the more "moderate" members of the forum. But, I just thought I would ask anyway and see if anyone would be willing to donate money to my campaign for state representative if I choose to run. (Even if it's only a small amount)
    I voted a maybe. More than likely yes, but I don't know you nor any of what your stances are. I have a good idea what your views are, but for me to support someone I do not know other than because he/she is one a forum that frequent would seem like me voting for a candidate just because they are part a a a particular party and I don't want the other team to win.

    Dont take it the wrong way, and I do support anyone wanting to run for an office, I just cannot throw any fiscal support behind a candidate until I know as much as I can on them.

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    Can't say how much or to what extent given that it would be state legislation outside my state, but yeah. Even if it were just a small donation in the form of a money bomb.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEEF View Post
    I voted a maybe. More than likely yes, but I don't know you nor any of what your stances are. I have a good idea what your views are, but for me to support someone I do not know other than because he/she is one a forum that frequent would seem like me voting for a candidate just because they are part a a a particular party and I don't want the other team to win.

    Dont take it the wrong way, and I do support anyone wanting to run for an office, I just cannot throw any fiscal support behind a candidate until I know as much as I can on them.
    I'm opposed to all tax increases and fee increases, opposed to all restrictions on gun ownership, support cutting spending, support reducing regulations, support preserving religious liberty, would push for ending civil asset forfeiture, would push for ending no knock raids of people's homes, would push for legalizing hemp and medical marijuana, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    I'm opposed to all tax increases and fee increases, opposed to all restrictions on gun ownership, support cutting spending, support reducing regulations, support preserving religious liberty, would push for ending civil asset forfeiture, would push for ending no knock raids of people's homes, would push for legalizing hemp and medical marijuana, etc.
    'Splain please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    'Splain please?
    I don't think that a bakery owner should be forced by law to bake a cake for a same sex wedding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    I'm opposed to all tax increases and fee increases, opposed to all restrictions on gun ownership, support cutting spending, support reducing regulations, support preserving religious liberty, would push for ending civil asset forfeiture, would push for ending no knock raids of people's homes, would push for legalizing hemp and medical marijuana, etc.
    Sounds like a good platform .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    I'm opposed to all tax increases and fee increases, opposed to all restrictions on gun ownership, support cutting spending, support reducing regulations, support preserving religious liberty, would push for ending civil asset forfeiture, would push for ending no knock raids of people's homes, would push for legalizing hemp and medical marijuana, etc.
    What about voter ID?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    What about voter ID?
    I support it. I imagine that's an issue that divides libertarians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    I support it.
    Good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    I imagine that's an issue that divides libertarians.
    I have yet to hear one oppose it, It shouldn't be an issue since it doesn't violate anyone's rights.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    I don't think that a bakery owner should be forced by law to bake a cake for a same sex wedding.
    I don't think this needs to be phrased in the form of "religious freedom" though that may help you to get support in certain sectors. I would just phrase it as "freedom of association." Though that would not garner near enough support as going the religious route.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I don't think this needs to be phrased in the form of "religious freedom" though that may help you to get support in certain sectors. I would just phrase it as "freedom of association." Though that would not garner near enough support as going the religious route.
    Maybe he could say both.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I don't think this needs to be phrased in the form of "religious freedom" though that may help you to get support in certain sectors. I would just phrase it as "freedom of association." Though that would not garner near enough support as going the religious route.
    Yeah, I understand in theory that a restaurant owner should have the right to refuse service to anyone he wants to for any reason. But, I live in a religious area, so it's beneficial politically to frame the issue by using the term religious liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Maybe he could say both.
    I agree. There's no reason why that couldn't be done. Freedom of association means for religious conviction or plain old "I don't like your looks, get out of my establishment."
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    Yeah, I understand in theory that a restaurant owner should have the right to refuse service to anyone he wants to for any reason. But, I live in a religious area, so it's beneficial politically to frame the issue by using the term religious liberty.
    Fair enough. It's what I figured. I have no problem with it.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    I don't think that a bakery owner should be forced by law to bake a cake for a same sex wedding.
    How 'bout h o m o's in publix skools?

    Muslims or Jews wanting their "religious freedom"?

    I'd probably offer my support for your candidacy TC but you've gotta be honest about your positions, omission is the same as lying.
    Last edited by tod evans; 07-24-2017 at 02:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    How 'bout h o m o's in publix skools?
    I would hope he opposes "Public Schools"

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Muslims or Jews wanting their "religious freedom"?
    What do you mean? The details of what you mean make all the difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    I'd probably offer my support for your candidacy FF but you've gotta be honest about your positions, omission is the same as lying.
    Perhaps he only means what he said he means?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Run Brett run.
    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




    Reprinted from http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/ [Nov. 29, 2011]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Good.

    I have yet to hear one oppose it, It shouldn't be an issue since it doesn't violate anyone's rights.
    Went smoothly here . Been in place since 08 if I recall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    How 'bout h o m o's in publix skools?

    Muslims or Jews wanting their "religious freedom"?

    I'd probably offer my support for your candidacy FF but you've gotta be honest about your positions, omission is the same as lying.
    If I decide to run, I was planning on putting on my website that I support preserving religious liberty for people of all faiths.

    Also, it's hard to run for office as a hardcore libertarian and actually win. If you think you can do it, then you should try. In some ways my district is the exact opposite of libertarian. My district is culturally conservative but strongly supports things like public schools. So my views will have to be watered down to some extent to have any chance to win, just like the campaigns that Rand Paul ran. I'm just trying to be honest with you. I just posted this thread to try to gauge support for my campaign if I choose to run, but you may not want to donate money to my campaign if you expect me to run as a hardcore libertarian. That isn't really politically possible. My platform will be similar to what I posted in post #9, sort of mainstream libertarianism or conservative libertarianism but not what people in my district would consider to be "extreme positions."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    My district is culturally conservative but strongly supports things like public schools.
    Then School choice (School Vouchers etc.) and Local/Parental control of the schools would be the best position to take.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    If I decide to run, I was planning on putting on my website that I support preserving religious liberty for people of all faiths.

    Also, it's hard to run for office as a hardcore libertarian and actually win. If you think you can do it, then you should try. In some ways my district is the exact opposite of libertarian. My district is culturally conservative but strongly supports things like public schools. So my views will have to be watered down to some extent to have any chance to win, just like the campaigns that Rand Paul ran. I'm just trying to be honest with you. I just posted this thread to try to gauge support for my campaign if I choose to run, but you may not want to donate money to my campaign if you expect me to run as a hardcore libertarian. That isn't really politically possible. My platform will be similar to what I posted in post #9, sort of mainstream libertarianism or conservative libertarianism but not what people in my district would consider to be "extreme positions."
    In other words... a possibly winnable position.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Then School choice (School Vouchers etc.) and Local/Parental control of the schools would be the best position to take.
    I think I would mostly focus on getting rid of waste within public schools and doing things more efficiently. Because I can see quite a bit of waste that goes on within the public school in my town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I would hope he opposes "Public Schools"
    The question was posed in light of "religious liberty" not whether or not "Public Schools" should be supported.


    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    What do you mean? The details of what you mean make all the difference.
    I typed exactly what I meant, there are no hidden meanings or details to elaborate on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Perhaps he only means what he said he means?
    Perhaps, but there's a long history under a couple of pseudonyms to take into account.

    My query(s) were specifically posed in regard to the phrase "religious liberty" because that phrase is used to represent different things to different audiences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    If I decide to run, I was planning on putting on my website that I support preserving religious liberty for people of all faiths.

    Also, it's hard to run for office as a hardcore libertarian and actually win. If you think you can do it, then you should try. In some ways my district is the exact opposite of libertarian. My district is culturally conservative but strongly supports things like public schools. So my views will have to be watered down to some extent to have any chance to win, just like the campaigns that Rand Paul ran. I'm just trying to be honest with you. I just posted this thread to try to gauge support for my campaign if I choose to run, but you may not want to donate money to my campaign if you expect me to run as a hardcore libertarian. That isn't really politically possible. My platform will be similar to what I posted in post #9, sort of mainstream libertarianism or conservative libertarianism but not what people in my district would consider to be "extreme positions."
    I'm not a hardcore libertarian so that wouldn't dissuade me at all...

    You've read enough here over the years to balance some of what you're being fed at skool...

    Don't ever stop thinking for yourself and always question the motives of anyone who tries to change your position on anything.

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