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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018...federal_budget

    The overall budget requested was 1.15 trillion. I made a mistake saying it was 3.3 trillion. The previous 3.3 trillion cane from a website that based the 2018 estimates based from the Obama Administration.
    Please show me where the spending cut happens.


    Beyond hope:
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    I think [Trump] is going to cut the [Pentagon] budget.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    [Paul Ryan being kicked out of speakership] happens soon after the vote fails.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    Within the first 100 days Trump/Rand will have Ryan gone as Speaker.

    Still hopeful:
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    Expect [a government shutdown] in September.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    I give Trump 1 year to put [Clinton] in jail. See you in January 2018 about this issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The Fed is NOT safe from audit, Trump has said he wants to audit the fed and we may have some bills coming up soon.



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    Oh hell, we've been reduced to this.
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    Yeah, I like cops. They keep the streets safe. Get over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The Fed is NOT safe from audit, Trump has said he wants to audit the fed and we may have some bills coming up soon.

    Trump is helping Rand pass his healthcare plan, if you think Trump actually supported RyanCare then you are foolish and you need to go read the threads where I addressed this topic. Rand was talking to Trump 2-3 times a week, and Rand told Trump straight up it wasn't going to pass, it didn't have the votes. Trump knew it wasn't going to pass, so he supported it to make sure it was all Paul Ryan's failure and none of it could be blamed on him. Trump hates Paul Ryan.

    Trump is going to help save Syria, with Russia's help.
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    It is not about brainwashing. You can support Trump for practical reasons. I think Danno is right about the Syria missile strikes helping Trump politically in the US. The media stopped talking about the sickening russian narrative. Proof again it was just a hoax to manipulate the public opinion.

    Trump made a good call as a politician. Libertarian souls can bitch all they want about principles and being conned. Trump is going to disappointed again. I have enough hairchest.

    Just answer the question. Which game is Trump playing?

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    Trump good. Low taxes. America. Why business politician like? Bring inflation 1.5 trillion Obama.

    Refute that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    That is Obamas Budget plan which started even before the elections. The 2018 Budget is far different. This is also not to say that a lot of employees in the Trump Administration are leftovers from the Obama Administration.

    He also said previous administration's are to Blame for these out of control deficit so he says he is trying, he has personal/business incentive to try, and his willingness to cut regulations with executive orders. I don't know what else there is to say he isn't trying to improve our economy.
    Yeah, he says a lot of things.

    So let me get this straight, the GOP controls all branches of the federal government but they can't cut spending because of legacy budgets?! Um, no. They control the purse strings. Budgeting and spending are two different things. The truth is that spending has increased - not decreased. And it isn't the fault of any "budget".

    Quit getting caught up in rhetoric. It means nothing to these people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    More "ordinary" people do business with Trump than Hillary.
    Trump's business is Trump. Hillary's business is Trump. "Ordinary people" don't do any business with either of them.
    "The future is here, it's just not evenly distributed yet." - William Gibson

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018...federal_budget



    The overall budget requested was 1.15 trillion. I made a mistake saying it was 3.3 trillion. The previous 3.3 trillion cane from a website that based the 2018 estimates based from the Obama Administration.
    That $1.15 trillion is only "discressionary" spending. It does not include "mandatory" spending like Social Security, Medicare/ Medicaid, interest on the debt. The portions of the budget he has proposed cuts in only account for about 20% of the entire budget. Discressionary spending for FY2017 (Obama) was $1.149 trillion. Trump's proposals call for $1.188 trillion or an actual increase of $39 billion. $3.2 trillion is
    including non- discressionary spending. https://www.thebalance.com/how-trump...budget-4128986

    And again, that does not include higher expenditures in Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, and Interest on the Debt.

    His cuts are figured over ten years- not next year. The cuts are mostly out into the future by which time a new budget would have been written and the proposed cuts forgotten. He does call for cuts in some departments while increasing spending in others. The proposal does not include any of his proposed $1 trillion in new infrastructure spending. It also assumed getting rid of Obamacare but he has been promoting the "replace" bill which negates some of his cuts like Medicaid.

    But Congress will write the actual budget- the president can only suggest things. Most of his cuts are probably not going to happen. They are currently passing a higher defense spending bill.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 07-17-2017 at 12:16 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    The yearly fee to Mar Lago is $200,000. I don't think anyone paying that sort of membership fee really qualifies as ordinary people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Slave Mentality View Post
    Ain't buying it dude. Got anything better for us poor old ordinary folks?

    I can't even afford the mother $#@!er's steaks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    It was doubled after he became president.



    Like expensive hotel rooms? He doesn't sell anything ordinary people buy. Other than his reality TV show and his image.

    Wow, all of you COMPLETELY missed the point, which is understandable as most of you have been diagnosed with Trump derangement syndrome, which makes it impossible to think clearly when it comes to debating about anything related to Trump.

    Listen. Closely. The same things that will help Trump's business - like lower taxes, less regulations, etc, are the SAME THINGS that help regular business that serve regular people.. as opposed to helping businesses like Lockheed Martin. That was the point of the thread. You coming in and saying how you don't buy things from Trump's businesses are NOT AN ARGUMENT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Bull$#@!. He's a nationalist populist, and is certainly not scared of spending or taxes.

    And how is that different from your view of one world globalism and advocacy of big government spending?
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.



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