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    Mosul: Another 'Mission Accomplished'



    After US-led efforts to liberate Mosul from ISIS control, the entire city is destroyed. Civilian deaths from US-led airstrikes are in the thousands. The US mainstream media is silent. But if Mosul is the great success that the US president and military leaders claim it is, can we bring the troops home now?
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    Depends on the definition of "mission".

    We are in a mess in a thousand ways. Our shyte foreign policy got us into this mess and we dragged the Eye-rackee people into it. Walking away is not right. Staying kills us. Mr. Rock, meet Mr. Hardplace.

    We made this bed. Let us now lie in it. We deserve this because we did nothing to stop it.
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    What happened to Mosul when ISIS took it in 2014?
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    Mosul: Another 'Mission Accomplished'
    How many does that make now?


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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Depends on the definition of "mission".

    We are in a mess in a thousand ways. Our shyte foreign policy got us into this mess and we dragged the Eye-rackee people into it. Walking away is not right. Staying kills us. Mr. Rock, meet Mr. Hardplace.

    We made this bed. Let us now lie in it. We deserve this because we did nothing to stop it.
    I seem to remember someone saying, "We just marched in, we can just march out."

    http://original.antiwar.com/paul/200...ust-march-out/
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    I seem to remember someone saying, "We just marched in, we can just march out."

    http://original.antiwar.com/paul/200...ust-march-out/
    Most certainly we can, but have we no culpability for the $#@! we leave behind?

    We are either a moral people or we are $#@!. I don't think there is anything in between... not in these situations. We are all responsible for what has happened there. Theye acted and we did nothing to stop them, other than bitching about it in places like RPF, which counts for little at best.

    So you tell me if just walking away is right, after having marched in uninvited, killing however many tens or hundreds of thousands of civilians, wrecking the place, and sending tens of thousands of our own home missing body parts, not to mention the thousands returning home in coffins, and trillions of dollars pissed down a rat-hole. Or do you think none of this is in any part your fault, or mine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Most certainly we can, but have we no culpability for the $#@! we leave behind?

    We are either a moral people or we are $#@!. I don't think there is anything in between... not in these situations. We are all responsible for what has happened there. Theye acted and we did nothing to stop them, other than bitching about it in places like RPF, which counts for little at best.

    So you tell me if just walking away is right, after having marched in uninvited, killing however many tens or hundreds of thousands of civilians, wrecking the place, and sending tens of thousands of our own home missing body parts, not to mention the thousands returning home in coffins, and trillions of dollars pissed down a rat-hole. Or do you think none of this is in any part your fault, or mine?
    When you're in a hole, quit digging. We're saying that there is no way to clean up our mess. It's over. There's no going back. The best we can do is to stop digging. Take our shovel and go home. Any further attempt at "fixing" something will be perceived by most as making things worse. Just march out. The longer it takes to do what Ron Paul suggested, the worse it will get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    When you're in a hole, quit digging.
    True enough, but in this case simplistic.

    We're saying that there is no way to clean up our mess.
    Possibly true... But that speaks nothing to the notion of culpability. This path paints us as the devils; it underscores and sets to glaring light OUR criminality - YOURS, MINE, everyone here at RPF, and so on down the list of every single human being walking and breathing in America.

    This is government OF the people, BY the people, and FOR the people. The direct implication here is that every one of us who did nothing to get himself put into a prison pursuant to stopping Themme prior to moving our troops shares in the culpability for this disaster. Or are we going to claim innocence on the basis that we are not a free people? I don't think there is any way to escape the assessment of "$#@! heads", but what do I know? As far as I am concerned, we are all guilty as sin - we wanted someone else to take care of our freedoms and prosperity, etc., seeking to busy ourselves with the pursuit of blowjobs and agonizing over what color the new $#@!ing BMW is going to be. On the whole, we are a raft of rank corruption, wanting something for nothing. Look where it's all gotten us: right here in a corner where one day we are going to have to make the existential decision of whether we are to capitulate to the predators that have been in our midst since the first days of the republic. Had we been proper freemen, we likely would never had ended up in our currently very tight corner.

    It's over. There's no going back.
    So where does that leave us? Walk away in the most cynical gesture of "$#@! you, $#@!s" to those whom we came with our bull$#@! promises?

    Lets say we do just that, which we will not. What do we do to at least try making it closer to right? Will we ID, name, charge, try, convict, and brutally and most publicly execute every last one of the motherfuckers responsible for implementing this murderous catastrophe? Of course we won't. Why? Because we are not moral people; not even those chest-pounding Christians who go on without shut about morality and so forth.

    You will perhaps forgive my going off like this, but just about everyone seems to be doing the hat-dance around some of the less attractive snippets of truth about ourselves, and for me it is high time it stops.

    The best we can do is to stop digging.
    No, that is NOT the best we can do. There must be accountability for those who got us into this mess, those who were "just follovink ohduz", and the vast wad of American jerkoffs, which includes the entire remainder. As far as I am concerned, accountability includes a lot of executions from the CIC on down to the soldiers. Ain't gonna happen, which means we will remain a $#@!ed race of degenerates, really no better than the rest of the world.

    How charming. No, really.

    Take our shovel and go home. Any further attempt at "fixing" something will be perceived by most as making things worse. Just march out. The longer it takes to do what Ron Paul suggested, the worse it will get.
    Sure, and ignore all the other things that need doing because they are ugly and nobody wants to be called to account for what he did, or failed to do.

    So much for Americans and their bull$#@! "exceptionalism". All lies.

    Feh.
    Last edited by osan; 07-17-2017 at 05:11 PM.
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    MSM claim Washington “liberated” Mosul. Here’s What Really Happened.

    [T]he “liberation” of Mosul paints a dark, horrifying picture of America’s foreign policy when one realizes how ISIS took hold of Mosul in the first place. As Anti-Media in summarizedthe U.S. allowed ISIS to gain control of Mosul quite deliberately:
    “In June 2014, ISIS crossed the Syrian border into Iraq, effortlessly taking the strategic oil-rich cities of Mosul and Baiji and almost making it as far as Baghdad. Amid the terror group’s frightening victory, they uploaded images and footage of drive-by-shootings, large-scale death marches, and mass graves (following the mass executions of Iraqi soldiers).
    “ISIS militants claimed massive quantities of American military equipment, including entire truckloads of humvees, helicopters, tanks, and artillery as their own. This was no secret to Washington, or even the world, as the militants photographed and recorded themselves and publicly flaunted their activity on social media.”

    Was there a good reason the American military sat on its hands despite knowing full well that this was going on? ...:
    “What did the U.S. do in response? Nothing. In spite of all the American bases in Iraq and the government’s ability to perform all manner of illicit activity — including assassinating Muammar Gaddafi in Libya using a drone that was flown out of Sicily by a pilot who operated the vehicle from a naval base in Nevada‚ the U.S. couldn’t do anything to stop ISIS rapid advancements. Was there a problem preventing the U.S. military from conducting air strikes? Clearly not, as the U.S. had been launching drone strikes in Pakistan at around the same time ISIS advanced.”

    The U.S. allowed ISIS to gain this significant portion of territory before moving into Iraq with an air war that was designed to pave the way for a segued operation into Syrian territory. The U.S. couldn’t justify an intervention into Syria without going into Iraq first, and this was quite clearly the underlying intention of this operation the whole time, as evidenced by the U.S.’ obsession with the Syrian conflict throughout both the Obama and Trump administrations. ...

    In all seriousness, the battle for Mosul is only paving the way for further occupation and laying the groundwork for America to pursue its regional ambitions in its never-ending quest to confront Iran. ...

    no one seems to be talking about the fact that ISIS was only able to conquer strategic areas like Mosul under the safety of the Obama administration’s policies. Leaked audio of former Secretary of State John Kerry when he was a senator confirmed the U.S. was watching ISIS grow, and in turn, the hoped this would bring Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to the negotiating table (you can listen to the full audio here). ...

    Indeed, ISIS was always a useful proxy force for the anti-Assad coalition, as Kerry admitted. Essentially, the U.S. allowed ISIS to gain control of large swaths of Iraq and Syria so they could justify interventions in these war-ravaged nations. …

    there is only one winner here: the military-industrial complex, which secured massive years-long contracts to make, supply, and drop over 84,000 bombs on a territory that never should have been in the hands of ISIS in the first place.
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