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    Why The Democratic Party Is Doomed

    Julian Assange, a man who has certainly taken his fair share of the blame for Hillary's loss last November, has just taken to Twitter to list out the 6 reasons why the "the Democratic party is doomed."
    Why the Democratic party is doomed: 1. The Democratic establishment has vortexed the party's narrative (cont) https://t.co/oSexJulCXS
    — Julian Assange (@JulianAssange) June 25, 2017
    Assange's assessment is spot on and covers many of the themes we discuss on a daily basis. To summarize, Assange asserts that the Democratic party essentially severed ties with the working class long ago due to their inability to craft a cohesive political agenda. Identity politics subsequently took the place of a solid legislative agenda but that "short-term tactic has led to the inevitable strategic catastrophe of the white and male super majorities responding by seeing themselves as an unserviced political identity group."
    That said, in 2016, the failures of the Democratic party went well beyond an out-of-touch agenda as WikiLeaks managed to expose the outright corruption of the DNC and political elites that were, up until that point, held up as royalty. But, rather than tuck tail and run, the political elites of the Democratic party have attempted to hold on to their power base by recklessly pushing the "Trump-Russian collusion narrative" which is a "political dead end."
    In the end, Assange suggests that "the Democratic base should move to start a new party since the party elite shows no signs that they will give up power."

    More at: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...c-party-doomed
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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    And the Demoncrats are and do all those things worse.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Perhaps when the Demoncrats collapse people will stop voting for the "lesser of 2 evils" and 3rd parties will stand a chance.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    I notice all the progressives on this forum spout those issues, but have little to say about other liberty issues. Interesting.



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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    It does when the LEFT boot is spiked.

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    And the LEFT is more Tyrannical.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    If the dems ever went away, the GOP would find a way to rebuild them. The War Party needs party politics to keep the masses of Boobus divided, conquered, subdued, and pacified.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    [pics]
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    [pics]

    Your pics are true to an extent, but why do so many libertarians/liberty minded people identify with conservatives/Republicans? Is is because they think they have to choose one over the other? Or, if you tallied up all issues (especially local issues), then would there be more liberty positions aligning with conservative ones? I have some thoughts, but really don't know. Liberty is qualitatively different from both, but how would you explain? From a poll:


    But they [libertarians] are a highly conservative, Republican one. 57 percent of libertarians identify as conservatives in the PRRI poll, while a scant three percent identified as liberals. 45 percent of libertarians identify as Republicans and 39 percent “identify with the Tea Party movement.” 57 percent of libertarians have favorable views of the Republican Party, while a whopping 89 percent have unfavorable views of the Democratic Party.
    https://www.prri.org/wp-content/uplo...13.AVS_WEB.pdf
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 06-26-2017 at 12:52 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Your pics are true to an extent, but why do so many libertarians/liberty minded people identify with conservatives/Republicans? Is is because they think they have to choose one over the other? Or, if you tallied up all issues (especially local issues), then would there be more liberty positions aligning with conservative ones? I have some thoughts, but really don't know. Liberty is qualitatively different from both, but how would you explain? From a poll:

    At some point the Democrats turned into Communists, The Republicans are distinctly better on many issues. (though not nearly good enough)
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 06-26-2017 at 01:10 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    2nd verse, same as the first.
    There is no spoon.



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    Is part of it because of economic issues? Men with families focus a lot on money issues. Women tend to lean Democrat (more often than not). If a man abandons his family, then the woman is going to find somebody to take care of her kids. It's just a maternal survival instinct. By hook or by crook. That somebody she seeks to look after her kids in a post-industrial world will not be family. It will often be the government.
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 06-26-2017 at 01:11 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    None of you would admit it but if the Democrats EVER cut our taxes we'd fly the BLM flag and be all for transgender bathrooms.

    Libertarians are Republicans because Republicans at least pretend they want to cut our taxes. In the end one party is Satan and the other is the Devil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    At some point the Democrats turned into Communists, The Republicans are distinctly better on many issues. (though not nearly good enough)
    Lol, you must be reading their literature. Because in practice, it's hard to see a difference.

    Hell, the Republicans have control of ALL THREE branches of the federal government. All three. And a favorable SC. Please tell me the "better" legislation they've done.

    I'll wait.............................................. .......



    (In my mind, the only difference is that it's marginally easier to sell a liberty message to the GOP electorate - which means we can sometimes get a Paul, Massie, or Amash elected on that side of the aisle. But when it comes to power, the party still wants more of it. And that's what they fight for - just like the dems. It takes a special breed to want to give power away to the people.)
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    i honestly believe that if the founding fathers could see what kind of government we have now ( since eisenhower ) they would have made america a parliamentary government type , they did not want america to be ruled by a king , but that is what we now and we can't change it .

    google up the countries that have a president and see what company we are keeping .

    i think that all governments are somewhere on a line , on the left end of the line is socialist and on the right end is fascist , repub/dems/libertarian/labor or any other are just names that are somewhere on the line .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILUVRP View Post
    i think that all governments are somewhere on a line , on the left end of the line is socialist and on the right end is fascist , repub/dems/libertarian/labor or any other are just names that are somewhere on the line .
    Hmmm... I see it more like this:

    Anarchy-------------------------------------------------------------Authoritarianism


    Words like "socialism" and "fascism" are just different flavors of authoritarianism. I don't really get caught up in the flavors of tyranny. Once you've accepted that you need to be ruled, does it really matter much how that rule is administered?
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Hmmm... I see it more like this:

    Anarchy-------------------------------------------------------------Authoritarianism


    Words like "socialism" and "fascism" are just different flavors of authoritarianism. I don't really get caught up in the flavors of tyranny. Once you've accepted that you need to be ruled, does it really matter much how that rule is administered?
    That's what makes the whole "globalist versus nationalist" meme so laughable, because either way, it's statism.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    That's what makes the whole "globalist versus nationalist" meme so laughable, because either way, it's statism.
    and we need anarchy?



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    Funny how every couple of years we have stories about the impending doom of each party. Just last year prior to the Trump victory everyone was talking about the demise of the GOP. Now the Democrats are on the ropes.

    Keep on believing that tripe.
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    Funny how every couple of years we have stories about the impending doom of each party. Just last year prior to the Trump victory everyone was talking about the demise of the GOP. Now the Democrats are on the ropes.

    Keep on believing that tripe.
    This is what drives their fundraising.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    This is what drives their fundraising.
    Don't forget the media. FOXNews had huge ratings during Obama's tenure. Now, CNN and MSNBC are getting the windfall.

    Hmmm... It's almost like the "opposition" benefits more... Who'da thunk it?
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    and we need anarchy?
    Unlike some here, I don't advocate for pure anarchy, but it's hard to argue that any form of statism is better.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    If the dems ever went away, the GOP would find a way to rebuild them. The War Party needs party politics to keep the masses of Boobus divided, conquered, subdued, and pacified.
    LOL , I guess they could arm Isis here .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    LOL , I guess they could arm Isis here .
    Could?

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