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    Default Oregon joins states where roadkill can be harvested for food

    Oh, geez...why on earth would this even be illegal in the first place?

    SALEM, Ore. (AP) A bill recently signed into law in Oregon allows drivers who crash into deer and elk on the road to harvest the animals' meat for food.

    It's not as rare as you might think.

    About 20 other states also let people take meat from animals killed by vehicles. And advocates say roadkill can be high-quality, grass-fed grub.

    Washington state began allowing the salvaging of deer and elk carcasses a year ago.

    In Pennsylvania, people can take deer or turkeys that are killed on the road if they report the incidents to the state Game Commission within 24 hours.

    In Oregon, Gov. Kate Brown signed the roadkill measure with little fanfare last week after lawmakers passed it without a single "nay" vote.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/oregon-jo...232611099.html
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    Minnesota passed a law in 1987 that permits deer to be salvaged . They do not need permits for possum , raccoon and skunk . These are used to make barbarian spam which is eaten before activities like ice fishing , hockey etc .

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    Awesome. More freedom than we have here on that issue. Aw well, maybe we can legalize next session.

    It's so stupid that some states make you a criminal for not letting millions of pounds of good meat rot.
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    About 20 other states also let people take meat from animals killed by vehicles.
    How very gracious of them.

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    do you mean we are allowed to eat food now? yay
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    I was curious because my uncle picks up roadkill deer fairly regularly. I never occurred to that it would be illegal.

    If you're curious about your state, you can click here.

    Restrictions on importing cervid parts; it is illegal to sell the hide of any domestic dog or cat caught in a trap; it is illegal to sell or transfer parts of any crocodilian species considered endangered by the U.S Fish and Wildlife Service; an agent-trapper permit or farm license is required to sell alligator parts.

    Georgia DNR Wildlife Resources Division; hunting regulations, including information on importing cervids; trapping regulations including information on alligators; trapping license info; the Georgia “Road Kill Bill”; regulations on export of wildlife, to include for scientific purposes

    Roadkilled native species may be legally collected, though you must notify the state about roadkilled black bears; wildlife parts collected for scientific purposes require a permit.
    http://www.thegreenwolf.com/u-s-state-laws/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    About 20 other states also let people take meat from animals killed by vehicles.
    How very gracious of them.
    I detect a degree of sarcasm in your remark. Silly person ...

    Without the government, who would allow people to take meat from animals killed by vehicles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    I detect a degree of sarcasm in your remark. Silly person ...

    Without the government, who would allow people to take meat from animals killed by vehicles?
    Thank you for not assuming my gender. That's right, without government you would have people picking up dead animals willie nillie. And you can't have that, it would be anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    How very gracious of them.
    I was going to say generous. Gracious implies permission. Here they are "giving" something us eat from their bounty.

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    Roadkilled native species may be legally collected, though you must notify the state about roadkilled black bears; wildlife parts collected for scientific purposes require a permit.
    If you're going to eat them it's cool but if you're going to experiment on them you need a permit? WTF?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Thank you for not assuming my gender.
    You're welcome. I would never be so borrishly crass as to do such an offensive thing ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    That's right, without government you would have people picking up dead animals willie nillie. And you can't have that, it would be anarchy.
    The really important thing is that there needs to be a State-issued Rule.

    It doesn't really matter what the Rule is - for example, you could be allowed to take roadkill, or not - just as long as there is a Rule of some kind and the State issues it.

    Otherwise, it would indeed be anarchy ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    If you're going to eat them it's cool but if you're going to experiment on them you need a permit? WTF?
    See my previous reply to Origanalist.

    The more Rules and sub-Rules the State give us, the better we can stave off the paralyzing confusion of anarchy.

    I, for one, will sleep much better knowing that there is a Rule governing whether and how people may experiment upon roadkill ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    You're welcome. I would never be so borrishly crass as to do such an offensive thing ...



    The really important thing is that there needs to be a State-issued Rule.

    It doesn't really matter what the Rule is - for example, you could be allowed to take roadkill, or not - just as long as there is a Rule of some kind and the State issues it.

    Otherwise, it would indeed be anarchy ...
    Yes, this is very important. It doesn't really matter what the law is, as long as there is a law. People can't self regulate you know. We would all be dead in a week.

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    I'd really like to get one of these people that come up with these helpful laws alone so that I could better understand their thought process... It's is wholly alien to me, I would like to experiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    See my previous reply to Origanalist.

    The more Rules and sub-Rules the State give us, the better we can stave off the paralyzing confusion of anarchy.

    I, for one, will sleep much better knowing that there is a Rule governing whether and how people may experiment upon roadkill ...

    Muh experiments.
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    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGambler View Post
    I'd really like to get one of these people that come up with these helpful laws alone so that I could better understand their thought process... It's is wholly alien to me, I would like to experiment.
    You better get a permit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Oh, geez...why on earth would this even be illegal in the first place?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/oregon-jo...232611099.html
    My guess would be that they control hunting with licenses, permits and tags, and they don't want "roadkill" used as a way to get around that. "It stepped right out in front of us. The bullet hole is just a coincidence."

    Seems like there used to be a problem with old roadkill being used for rendering and being sold for human consumption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    If you're going to eat them it's cool but if you're going to experiment on them you need a permit? WTF?
    What about if you want to smear them on your face and lips?

    Road Kill (tallow), 13 Gross Ingredients Hidden in Your Beauty Products - (Page 11)

    Road Kill (tallow) According to Skin Deep Cosmetic Safety Database, the process of rendering animal fat consists of boiling animal carcasses in a pot to create fatty byproducts. The decaying animals used come from every source imaginable: lab animals, deadstock (animals that die before they reach the slaughterhouse), euthanized zoo and shelter animals, expired meat from grocery stores and -- wait for it -- road kill. The majority of this fat is used as a skin-conditioning agent and an emollient in cosmetics like lipstick, eyeshadow and soap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    What about if you want to smear them on your face and lips?
    I've eaten it so why not smear it on my face? Urine is also in some cosmetics.

    Not the worst thing I've had on my face.
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    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Man Dragging Roadkill Shot by Dog-Lover: Sheriff

    (Newser) – Authorities say an altercation over a dead raccoon led to a shooting in rural Washington state, the AP reports. Mason County Sheriff's Lt. Travis Adams tells KOMO a man was walking along a highway Sunday dragging the roadkill behind him with a rope. The animal had been hit by a car, and he wanted to use it as crab bait. Adams says two vehicles stopped, and people confronted the man because they thought he was dragging a dead dog. One person who had been in a pickup truck shot the man twice in the leg. Both vehicles then sped off. Deputies have contacted people in the other vehicle, and authorities say they're cooperating. No arrests have been made. The man is expected to recover.
    http://www.newser.com/story/244924/s...-shooting.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Awesome. More freedom than we have here on that issue. Aw well, maybe we can legalize next session.

    It's so stupid that some states make you a criminal for not letting millions of pounds of good meat rot.
    You can't eat it, but zoophilia being legal in your state, you could always claim it as your lover...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I've eaten it so why not smear it on my face? Urine is also in some cosmetics. Not the worst thing I've had on my face.

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    When I lived there I always used fish in my crab traps . That meat must have been pretty ripe if he was rope dragging it .

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    So does this mean, if you find a dead Bald Eagle on the side of the road, you can harvest it for food?

    Seems to conflict with other laws I've heard about.

    Seems like collecting the feathers of a dead bird, shouldn't be against any law as long as you didn't cause the death of the bird.






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