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    Obama’s secret struggle to punish Russia for Putin’s election assault

    Obama’s secret struggle to punish Russia for Putin’s election assault

    By Greg Miller, Ellen Nakashima and Adam Entous
    June 23, 2017

    Early last August, an envelope with extraordinary handling restrictions arrived at the White House. Sent by courier from the CIA, it carried “eyes only” instructions that its contents be shown to just four people: President Barack Obama and three senior aides.

    Inside was an intelligence bombshell, a report drawn from sourcing deep inside the Russian government that detailed Russian President Vladi*mir Putin’s direct involvement in a cyber campaign to disrupt and discredit the U.S. presidential race.

    But it went further. The intelligence captured Putin’s specific instructions on the operation’s audacious objectives — defeat or at least damage the Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton, and help elect her opponent, Donald Trump.

    At that point, the outlines of the Russian assault on the U.S. election were increasingly apparent. Hackers with ties to Russian intelligence services had been rummaging through Democratic Party computer networks, as well as some Republican systems, for more than a year. In July, the FBI had opened an investigation of contacts between Russian officials and Trump associates. And on July 22, nearly 20,000 emails stolen from the Democratic National Committee were dumped online by WikiLeaks.

    But at the highest levels of government, among those responsible for managing the crisis, the first moment of true foreboding about Russia’s intentions arrived with that CIA intelligence.

    The material was so sensitive that CIA Director John Brennan kept it out of the President’s Daily Brief, concerned that even that restricted report’s distribution was too broad. The CIA package came with instructions that it be returned immediately after it was read. To guard against leaks, subsequent meetings in the Situation Room followed the same protocols as planning sessions for the Osama bin Laden raid.

    It took time for other parts of the intelligence community to endorse the CIA’s view. Only in the administration’s final weeks in office did it tell the public, in a declassified report, what officials had learned from Brennan in August — that Putin was working to elect Trump.

    Over that five-month interval, the Obama administration secretly debated dozens of options for deterring or punishing Russia, including cyberattacks on Russian infrastructure, the release of CIA-gathered material that might embarrass Putin and sanctions that officials said could “crater” the Russian economy.

    But in the end, in late December, Obama approved a modest package combining measures that had been drawn up to punish Russia for other issues — expulsions of 35 diplomats and the closure of two Russian compounds — with economic sanctions so narrowly targeted that even those who helped design them describe their impact as largely symbolic.

    Obama also approved a previously undisclosed covert measure that authorized planting cyber weapons in Russia’s infrastructure, the digital equivalent of bombs that could be detonated if the United States found itself in an escalating exchange with Moscow. The project, which Obama approved in a covert-action finding, was still in its planning stages when Obama left office. It would be up to President Trump to decide whether to use the capability.

    In political terms, Russia’s interference was the crime of the century, an unprecedented and largely successful destabilizing attack on American democracy. It was a case that took almost no time to solve, traced to the Kremlin through cyber-forensics and intelligence on Putin’s involvement. And yet, because of the divergent ways Obama and Trump have handled the matter, Moscow appears unlikely to face proportionate consequences.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...ction-hacking/
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    Got any evidence?
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Comey submitted those documents during GOP oversight hearings.

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    ...Russia’s interference was the crime of the century,...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Comey submitted those documents during GOP oversight hearings.
    Interesting that the pussy tape got dropped almost immediately after they released the report.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Why are you posting this crap?
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Why are you posting this crap?

    Today's Friday. It's pay day.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Okay, for the 4th time. That's still a leopard, not a cheetah.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Why are you posting this crap?
    Usually I don't, but there was actually a lot of time and effort that got put into this one. It's much wider in scope than the usual.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Usually I don't,...
    lol


    ...but there was actually a lot of time and effort that got put into this one.
    Yes, by the election loser cry babies who keep grasping for something. Anything.

    It's much wider in scope than the usual.
    The only thing that gets wider is the collective American $#@! as snowflakes spend zillions of tax dollars on this crap.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Why are you posting this crap?
    Who isn't a fan of fiction from the Washington post and CIA?
    If anybody is discrediting the election its the people making these claims. The best thing putin could do to discredit our elections is fake like he was gonna interfere, then sit back and watch us destroy ourselves. whoops.

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    Sent by courier from the CIA,...
    Hmm; the CIA. Wasn't that the same bunch that sent something to this guy?


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    From his book:

    Former Central Intelligence Director Michael Morrell apologized to Gen. Colin Powell, saying, "We said he [Hussein] has chemical weapons, he has a biological weapons production capability, and he is restarting his nuclear weapons program. We were wrong on all three of those."
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    "The Patriarch"



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    Actually, DGP had denied that in Oct 2016

    June 23, 2017
    Early last August, an envelope with extraordinary handling restrictions arrived at the White House. Sent by courier from the CIA, it carried “eyes only” instructions that its contents be shown to just four people: President Barack Obama and three senior aides.
    Inside was an intelligence bombshell, a report drawn from sourcing deep inside the Russian government that detailed Russian President Vladi*mir Putin’s direct involvement in a cyber campaign to disrupt and discredit the U.S. presidential race.

    ................
    Published on Oct 25, 2016
    President Obama didn't pull any punches speaking out against Donald Trump on Jimmy Kimmel Live! Monday night. "What we haven't seen before, I think is somebody questioning the integrity of elections and the will of the people," Obama told the late night host. Kimmel also asked the outgoing commander-in-chief if he ever wished he ran against Trump. Obama laughed at the question, saying: "I think Hillary is doing just fine. I enjoy campaigning on her behalf and campaigning for senate candidates.




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC1NGWM8gP8






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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Hmm; the CIA. Wasn't that the same bunch that sent something to this guy?


    To be fair, Congress has since prohibited WaPo (and NYT) neocons from spreading fakenews.

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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post




    He didn't give any evidence. He said dumb things like, "I should've have bought a sleeping bag, and camped out in front of the DNC."




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    A chronology of the 2016 U.S. election and the new revelations

    Russia’s election inference was one of the most divisive topics of the presidential campaign.

    Intelligence agencies knew as early as 2015 that the Russians had penetrated the systems of the Democratic National Committee, but it wasn’t until the election cycle hit full force that many of the leaks began to surface. Throughout the summer months, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump continued to reject the intelligence on Russia’s involvement, while Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton was dogged by an email scandal that resurfaced time and time again.

    Here is a look at the events in the administration as the White House proposed various ways to punish Russia during the final months of the presidential campaign:
    ...
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...king-timeline/
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    The scandal is that the DNC screwed Bernie Sanders out of the primaries.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    The scandal is that the DNC screwed Bernie Sanders out of the primaries.
    Yes, there's quite a bit of evidence of that happening as well.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Intelligence agencies knew as early as 2015 that the Russians had penetrated the systems of the Democratic National Committee, but it wasn’t until the election cycle hit full force that many of the leaks began to surface.

    What does knowing something have to do with "leaks?" Baloney. Show the evidence or be quiet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Yes, there's quite a bit of evidence of that happening as well.
    That was what was damaging from the Wiki-leaks dump. As posted above, the only confidence of lost in the elections is caused by the baseless accusation of Russian interference.

    If there was interference, what exactly did they do?
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post

    If there was interference, what exactly did they do?


    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    That was what was damaging from the Wiki-leaks dump. As posted above, the only confidence of lost in the elections is caused by the baseless accusation of Russian interference.

    If there was interference, what exactly did they do?
    Hillery lost, it had to be the Russians.

    They still can't get over the fact that they lost a rigged election.

    Maybe if they investigate enough, they will find out the Russians were helping Hillery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    That was what was damaging from the Wiki-leaks dump. As posted above, the only confidence of lost in the elections is caused by the baseless accusation of Russian interference.

    If there was interference, what exactly did they do?
    So far, the only stuff specifically related to interference that has been declassified are attempts to interfere.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Good god, he says basically...NOTHING!


    why do you keep posting the liberal nonsense here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post

    why do you keep posting the liberal nonsense here?


    It must be a good gig.


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