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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I , of course would never participate in a labor union . I would though be happy to help negotiate any contracts for Danke to participate in .
    Most of the high paying jobs that people lament losing were either government (those haven't gone away) or union (which have been going away).



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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Most of the high paying jobs that people lament losing were either government (those haven't gone away) or union (which have been going away).
    I was always a salaried worker . I could get a better package myself through my own endeavors than any negotiated deal that includes the bottom performers . I would never pay dues , but that is just me .
    Last edited by oyarde; 06-21-2017 at 07:00 PM.
    Do something Danke

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    When was the last time you pulled out an aviation sextant and shot night star sights to determine your position?

    ETA - I can't speak to an ATP's work, that much is true, I hold nothing more than a rinky dink PP ticket and that is long out of date.

    But I can say a new, or mostly new Skylane 182 is a much easier aircraft to fly than one equipped as originally delivered in 1956.

    ETA 2 - And and I can tell you without any reservation, that, after going to sea for 40 years, some on vessels close to a hundred years old now, and they are much easier to operate now, than then.

    Hell, I could train an 18 year old kid to do the bulk of my job in a month.

    IF all the whiz bang technology is operating properly.
    We have replaced the engineer and navigator positions already with technology , we are down to just two positions now. If one gets sick or croaks, there is a back up. Passenger planes already have environmental systems for people, so the cost of having two pilots is minimal compared to the expensive systems that would need to be put in place AND maintained for a truely autonomous aircraft. Programming every possible senario, would it have allowed a landing in the Hudson? What happens when electrical power is interrupted or someone hacks into the computer? Fire? Gonna rely on a flight attendant out of high school to handle that? Etc. etc.

    Cargo, maybe, someday. Insurance can afford to pay for lost widgets. But lose a few hundred people here and there. Company would be sued out of business when their competitors are offering piloted transportation that was available ( I know, buyer beware, but lawyers and the stupid public). I think it would be a great marketing strategy, "fly with us, we have humans onboard, just in case."



    And the transition would still involve operators on the ground wrt to things like turbulence avoidance, etc. (a thing you have to look outside sometimes and use you years of experience to judge when to tell everyone to buckle up, as one of many examples) so there is that expense too. You are paying operators on the ground, then it is not that much more to have them in the actual aircraft when you break down there portion of the ticket price. I get less than $1 per hour of flight per passenger. People pay more for parking at an airport or taking a taxing to the airport than what they pay me to fly them somewhere.


    I could go on and on about all the variables, needless to say, we will not see what you envision for many many decades.
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  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I was always a salaried worker . I could get a better package myself through my own endeavors than any negotiated deal that includes the bottom performers . I would never pay dues , but that is just me .
    Most casino jobs aren't unionized, correct? Like your coat checking one. But tips are good, no?
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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Most casino jobs aren't unionized, correct? Like your coat checking one. But tips are good, no?
    I have never worked in a casino or coat check , but I will check your coat .
    Do something Danke

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I have never worked in a casino or coat check , but I will check your coat .
    Oh that's right, you just sit back and collect the tribal dividends and trade furs for beads.
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    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Oh that's right, you just sit back and collect the tribal dividends and trade furs for beads.
    Not easy being Chief . I can put a list together for you of things I would like for you to put in your coat while I hold it .....
    Do something Danke

  10. #68
    Just look at the election: the establishment tricked Americans into thinking they were doing something about political corruption. The people's power is being sold for scraps, by someone who literally bragged about selling government power in the primaries. Anyone who saw through the trick was constantly slandered and beaten into submission by the MSM. The new political correct is people like Rand Paul having to bite his tongue when asked why he doesn't like the presidents $#@!ty health care plan.

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Programming every possible senario, would it have allowed a landing in the Hudson?
    No, and a valid point and the only one that might save us.

    All the "experts" said what Sullenberger did was impossible.

    And so would the computers.

    And everybody would have died on that flight.

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    No, and a valid point and the only one that might save us.

    All the "experts" said what Sullenberger did was impossible.

    And so would the computers.

    And everybody would have died on that flight.
    I'll choose Han Solo over C-3p0 to pilot the Millennium Falcon.
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  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    No, and a valid point and the only one that might save us.

    All the "experts" said what Sullenberger did was impossible.

    And so would the computers.

    And everybody would have died on that flight.
    This is how I always think of Danke

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    This is how I always think of Danke
    Can't restart engines after shutting em down for a fire. But other than that, totally possible...
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    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!

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    The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes

    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    This is how I always think of Danke
    Drunk and on drugs?

  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Drunk and on drugs?
    No, black.

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    Dankes dream girl?
    "The Patriarch"

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Moot point anyways...won't be any truckers in another 20 years or so.
    No, probably not that soon. Right now everything is we own is, at one point or another, on a truck. With the introduction of 3D printers and drone delivery and paperless business and whatnot, I agree that day will gradually come. Trucking will be greatly reduced to say the least.

    It's kind of a downer. Driving a truck is a pretty relaxing job. And an American heritage, really. For many years I got stuck being the truck driver among my main responsibilities. You're always the first one in to work and the last one to get back to shop, sometimes days later. But there's nothing more relaxing than being by yourself for extended hours and not having some asshat behind a desk barking at you. Not only that, but you see some really cool stuff. It's scenic as a mofo.
    Last edited by Natural Citizen; 06-24-2017 at 04:16 PM.

  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    No, and a valid point and the only one that might save us.

    All the "experts" said what Sullenberger did was impossible.

    And so would the computers.

    And everybody would have died on that flight.
    Cargo ship that crashed into US destroyer reportedly on autopilot

    https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news...lot/103141378/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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