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    Iran Claims U.S. is Supporting ISIS and That It Has Evidence to Prove It

    "We possess documents and information showing the direct support by the U.S. imperialism for this highly disgusting stream (ISIS) in the region which has destroyed the Islamic countries and created a wave of massacres and clashes,"

    more at: http://www.newsweek.com/iran-claim-u...e-prove-624489

    Dump already said Obummer started ISIS, he should invite Iran to make their evidence public.
    Last edited by Swordsmyth; 06-13-2017 at 12:35 AM.
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    It sounds like a big secret is going to be revealed.

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    How much more evidence do we need?!?

    If I understand correctly ISIS (a.k.a. IS, or ISIL) is nothing but the new (or another) name for Al Qaeda.
    According to British Foreign Secretary Robin Cooke (a couple of months before he died), Al Qaeda was the name for the CIA-database of Muslim “freedom fighters” in Afghanistan to fight for opium production (or was it against Communism?).

    There is not only evidence that Al Qaeda was created, funded and trained in the 1980s by the US government, but even that for the last years the US government has continued its support for Al Qaeda in Syria...

    In one of those wonderful displays of international human rights, the US led coalition keeps on bombing Syria. This is supposedly aimed at the regime of Assad, but it’s (of course) the people that suffer.
    Last month Syria was bombed again. According to the state media this was aimed at pro-regime forces that posed a threat to coalition-backed forces.
    This story even claims that the US is fighting against ISIS, this is even more ridiculous than the whole Russia against the USA rhetoric (who, behind the scenes, have never been more “allied”): http://thehill.com/policy/defense/33...itary-in-syria


    OBAMA / ISIS
    Evidence from Judicial Watch shows that the Obama administration (with Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State) financed, armed and trained Syrian terrorists (including ISIS).
    Until September 2012 weapons that had belonged to the Libyan army were shipped from Benghazi to Syrian terrorists. Including weapons for Al Qaeda, that later was renamed ISIS: http://www.salon.com/2015/05/28/the_...talking_about/

    Official documents show that the Obama administration helped the extremist groups that were created in the Middle East by earlier US administrations.
    According to CNN, the US and some of its European allies (including Britain!) have in fact used defence contractors to train Syrian rebels on how to use chemical weapons stockpiles in Syria, as well as in neighbouring Turkey and Jordan and “involves how to monitor and secure stockpiles and handle weapons sites and materials”: http://www.globalresearch.ca/obamas-...e-east/5450832

    There is also a (censored) October 2012 document from the DoD, published by Judicial Watch, that confirms that the Obama administration shipped weapons from the Port of Benghazi to rebel troops in Syria: http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-cont...l-version1.pdf
    Weapons from the former Libya military stockpiles were shipped from the port of Benghazi, Libya to the Port of Banias and the Port of Borj Islam, Syria. The weapons shipped during late-August 2012 were Sniper rifles, RPG’s, and 125 mm and 155mm howitzers missiles.
    Another official document published by Judicial Watch, shows that the Obama administration helped to create the “IDEAL ATMOSPHERE“ for Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), against its “ENEMY, THE DISSENTERS”.
    In August 2012, Hillary Clinton received this intelligence report: http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presid...port-for-isis/


    CIA-GOOGLE-AL QAEDA
    In 2012, Google helped Al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups, like the Muslim Brotherhood, to gain new members.
    The then director of Google Ideas, Jared Cohen, coordinated support for these “rebel” groups. Google employed it’s expertise to help the conflict in Syria gain traction. In July 2012, Google provided a software tool, to tracked defections in Syria, which, with the help of Al-Jazeera, helped the Syrian “rebels” (terrorists).
    According to US officials and Google, this should encourage people to take up arms and join the ranks of the “rebels”. Then Director of Policy Planning for Obama, Jake Sullivan, let Hillary Clinton know that “this is a pretty cool idea”.


    Another email by Sullivan shows that according to the Obama administration Al Qaeda (AQ) “is on our side in Syria”: https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...l-qaeda-syria/


    CLINTON – LAFARGE, ISIS
    Clinton earned $100,000 from the French company Lafarge (she has worked for Lafarge since the late 1980s) that has been financing ISIS: https://www.thecanary.co/2016/07/29/...llary-clinton/

    In 1992 (when Clinton served on its board of directors) Lafarge was fined $1.8 million by the Environmental Protection Agency. After Bill Clinton became president that fine was reduced to less than $600,000: http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/20...mical-weapons/


    ISIS - MOSSAD
    Does ISIS stand for Israeli Secret Intelligence Service?
    There is a bizarre story on the internet that the leader of ISIS, Al-Baghdadi, is really the (Jewish) Mossad agent Simon Elliot: https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.co...n-al-baghdadi/
    See the following photographs of Al-Baghdadi with US senator John McCain and (another) terrorist Muhammed Noor. Also pictured is Simon Elliot (the large photo below), who bears a striking resemblance to Al-Baghdadi…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    How much more evidence do we need?!?

    If I understand correctly ISIS (a.k.a. IS, or ISIL) is nothing but the new (or another) name for Al Qaeda.
    According to British Foreign Secretary Robin Cooke (a couple of months before he died), Al Qaeda was the name for the CIA-database of Muslim “freedom fighters” in Afghanistan to fight for opium production (or was it against Communism?).

    There is not only evidence that Al Qaeda was created, funded and trained in the 1980s by the US government, but even that for the last years the US government has continued its support for Al Qaeda in Syria...

    In one of those wonderful displays of international human rights, the US led coalition keeps on bombing Syria. This is supposedly aimed at the regime of Assad, but it’s (of course) the people that suffer.
    Last month Syria was bombed again. According to the state media this was aimed at pro-regime forces that posed a threat to coalition-backed forces.
    This story even claims that the US is fighting against ISIS, this is even more ridiculous than the whole Russia against the USA rhetoric (who, behind the scenes, have never been more “allied”): http://thehill.com/policy/defense/33...itary-in-syria
    And YES!^^^^^^
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    "We possess documents and information showing the direct support by the U.S. imperialism for this highly disgusting stream (ISIS) in the region which has destroyed the Islamic countries and created a wave of massacres and clashes,"

    more at: http://www.newsweek.com/iran-claim-u...e-prove-624489

    Dump already said Obummer started ISIS, he should invite Iran to make their evidence public.
    This siruation is getting very controversial.

    Former Afghan President Karzai Calls Islamic State 'Tool' of US








    US-led Coalition Colluding With Daesh In Syria: Russia

    The commander of Russian forces in Syria says Deash made a deal with Kurdish forces to leave villages near Raqqa.


    The Russian military on Friday accused the U.S-led coalition in Syria of providing safe corridors for Daesh to leave the area around its stronghold of Raqqa, the Associated Press reported.
    Col. Gen. Sergei Surovikin, the commander of Russian forces in Syria, said Daesh made a deal earlier this month with the Kurdish forces to leave two villages southwest of Raqqa and move toward Palmyra.
    Surovikin said the U.S-led coalition along with the allied Kurds "collude with the leaders of Daesh, who surrender the areas under their control and head to provinces where Syrian government forces operate."
    "There is an impression that under the slogan of fighting international terrorism in Syria the Americans are using IS (Daesh) to offer resistance to government forces' advances," AP reported him as saying.

    http://www.tolonews.com/world/us-led...h-syria-russia




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vD1pJR98dA

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    Thought of the day for Dump and Iran:
    John 8:32

    “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

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    Sri Lanka detains Syrian for questioning over attacks: Sources

    23 Apr 2019
    COLOMBO: Sri Lankan police are holding a Syrian national in custody for questioning over the Easter Sunday attacks on churches and hotels, three government and military sources told Reuters on Tuesday (Apr 23).
    "The terrorist investigation division of the police arrested a Syrian national following the attacks for interrogation," a source said. Two other officials with knowledge of the investigation confirmed the detention. "He was arrested after interrogation of local suspects," a second source said.

    2 days ago
    ISIS Claims Responsibility for Sri Lanka Attacks as Minister Says They Were ‘Retaliation’ for New Zealand

    Reuters / Thomas Peter
    ISIS has claimed responsibility for the deadly attacks on churches and hotels in Sri Lanka on Easter Sunday that killed more than 320 people. Meanwhile, a Sri Lanka government minister said they were in direct response to the mass shootings at two mosques in New Zealand last month. Sri Lankan Defense Minister Ruwan Wijewardene told the country’s parliament Tuesday that investigations had shown “this attack was carried out in retaliation for the attack against Muslims in Christchurch,” according to The Guardian. An intelligence memo handed to government officials weeks before the attack shows that one suspect in the bombings updated his social-media accounts “with extremist content” after a right-wing extremist killed 50 Muslim worshippers in Christchurch. Separately, ISIS claimed responsibility Tuesday for the attacks in Sri Lanka, saying via its own news agency that the “perpetrators of the attack... were Islamic State fighters.” The release also claimed the bombings targeted Christians as well as citizens of countries belonging to the coalition fighting ISIS.






    Un-Related

    Trump Says ISIS Is Defeated. Reality Says Otherwise.
    The radicalized children of the Islamic State will threaten the world for generations to come unless the president changes course.
    By CHARLES LISTER
    March 18, 2019
    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-policy-225816

    Hamid Karzai: US colluded with ISIL in Afghanistan

    Ex-defense minister says IS ‘apologized’ to Israel for November clash



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Thought of the day for Dump and Iran:
    John 8:32

    “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

    King James Version (KJV)
    MAGA may not always be a straight shooter and his Iran/mideast policies may not be perfect but calling a sitting GOP POTUS "Dump" might offend many in GOP base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post

    Dump already said Obummer started ISIS, he should invite Iran to make their evidence public.
    Who were you calling 'Dump' there?

    On such claims, do you believe Iran (existential threat to our closest ally Israel) or current America-First POTUS who just sent thousand of US troops to Iraq to fight ISIS?



    Related

    ET Bureau's irresponsible reporting on US military 'promoting ISIS in Afghanistan'

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    I thought late great McCain was strongly anti IS.
    That's what you get for thinking.

    Like I said, Schiff didn't get to tip off Baghdadi, a CIA asset, before he was taken out this time because Trump finally took the deep state out of the loop.

    Pelosi consorted with Baghdadi as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    I thought late great McCain was strongly anti IS.
    That depends on what the meaning of IS is.

    or something
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    I thought late great McCain was strongly anti IS.
    It's a bit diffcult to positively identify some terrorist with nothing more than some photos.
    It has been DENIED by the mainstream media but I would be very suprised if they didn't: https://www.globalresearch.ca/did-jo...-daesh/5498177


    The following hasn't been denied by the media, but the photo I posted mysteriously disappeared for some reason...
    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    See John McCain meeting the husband of Sara Bronfman, Basit Igtet, in Benghazi, Syria, 2011.
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6683031
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    'Defeated' ISIS has found safe haven in an ungoverned part of Iraq

    Though President Donald Trump declared "100% of the ISIS Caliphate" defeated, the group is roaming freely in a remote part of Iraq, military officials say.



    Nov. 4, 2019
    By Courtney Kube
    MAKHMOUR, Iraq — Just months after the Islamic State militant group lost the last of its territory in Syria, and days after its leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, was killed in a U.S.-led raid, the group has found safe haven in a remote, ungoverned space in Iraq, as foreign fighters move across the border from Syria, military officials tell NBC news.
    "The fight against ISIS is continuous," said U.S. Marine Corps Brig. Gen. William Seely, commander of Task Force-Iraq. "We're seeing ISIS fighters move from Syria across hundreds of miles of desert."
    Their goal, Seely says, is to re-establish their physical caliphate in the region.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/mideast...-iraq-n1076081


    This NBC report should deflate any theories that any Israeli donor funded GOP-Adelson wing linked entities were supporting such nefarious groups for some globalist neocons false flag strategies.




    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post

    Pelosi consorted with Baghdadi as well.
    Source?


    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    That depends on what the meaning of IS is.
    So true.


    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post


    The following hasn't been denied by the media, but the photo I posted mysteriously disappeared for some reason...
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6683031

    Have seen soem photos and vids vanish too especially on controversial topics.
    But some of McCain's other photos during Syria/Libya visit still peear to be online.



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