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  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post

    https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/sta...56145666162691
    Trump's lawyer's connections are pretty interesting.

    Maybe even more interesting is that Trump is dumb, desperate, or arrogant enough to use a guy like that, given the prevailing narrative.



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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Trump's lawyer's connections are pretty interesting.

    Maybe even more interesting is that Trump is dumb, desperate, or arrogant enough to use a guy like that, given the prevailing narrative.
    Well he has to take what he can get at this point. Not a lot of firms will agree to represent a client who has a history of not paying and incriminates himself on a daily basis.
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    If Trump wasn't under investigation in the first place...

    Something that's occurred to me -
    If The FBI wasn't investigating Trump... why did Comey come to believe that he needed to trigger an independent investigation by leaking his memos?

  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Something that's occurred to me -
    If The FBI wasn't investigating Trump... why did Comey come to believe that he needed to trigger an independent investigation by leaking his memos?
    It happened after the Trump tweet about having tapes. He knew a special counsel would subpoena for the tapes.


    COMEY: Yeah, and — and — and, really, just a gut feel, laying on top of all of that, that this — it’s going to be important, to protect this organization, that I make records of this.

    COLLINS: And finally, did you show copies of your memos to anyone outside of the Department of Justice?

    COMEY: Yes.

    COLLINS: And to whom did you show copies?

    COMEY: I asked — the president tweeted on Friday, after I got fired, that I better hope there’s not tapes. I woke up in the middle of the night on Monday night, because it didn’t dawn on me originally that there might be corroboration for our conversation. There might be a tape.

    And my judgment was, I needed to get that out into the public square. And so I asked a friend of mine to share the content of the memo with a reporter. Didn’t do it myself, for a variety of reasons. But I asked him to, because I thought that might prompt the appointment of a special counsel. And so I asked a close friend of mine to do it.

    COLLINS: And was that Mr. Wittes?

    COMEY: No, no.

    COLLINS: Who was that?

    COMEY: A good friend of mine who’s a professor at Columbia Law School.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    trying to understand the real 'why'...

    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    It happened after the Trump tweet about having tapes. He knew a special counsel would subpoena for the tapes.
    Well, assuming that to be true, why should Comey even be particularly concerned about the existence of tapes? Because - LITERALLY! - "if he did nothing wrong, he has nothing to worry about" - it's his world. Tapes should only corroborate Comey as long as he's been telling the truth - and they still wouldn't really damn Trump, IMO. (I think the quotes Comey attributes to Trump are way too weak to be considered trying to obstruct justice.)

    WHO stands to be made to look worse if tapes come out? If everything Comey has said is accurate - it still fails to show that Trump did anything illegal. So, what is everyone clamoring for? Does the media/establishment just want to conjure up images of Watergate by focusing on "tapes" that probably don't even exist?

  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Well, assuming that to be true, why should Comey even be particularly concerned about the existence of tapes?
    According to him, he wasn't concerned; he wanted to force the tapes to be released because they would prove his version of the story and discredit Trump's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Well, assuming that to be true, why should Comey even be particularly concerned about the existence of tapes? Because - LITERALLY! - "if he did nothing wrong, he has nothing to worry about" - it's his world. Tapes should only corroborate Comey as long as he's been telling the truth - and they still wouldn't really damn Trump, IMO. (I think the quotes Comey attributes to Trump are way too weak to be considered trying to obstruct justice.)

    WHO stands to be made to look worse if tapes come out? If everything Comey has said is accurate - it still fails to show that Trump did anything illegal. So, what is everyone clamoring for? Does the media/establishment just want to conjure up images of Watergate by focusing on "tapes" that probably don't even exist?
    It was Donald who first made mention of the tapes.


    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...07411132649473
    Given his history, he was probably bullshitting, but now there is a special counsel who will either get the tapes or force him to admit he was bullshitting.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  12. #100
    Comey Headlines: From Vindication To Impeachment (Both Ideas Cannot Be Right)

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-10/comey-headlines-vindication-impeachment-both-ideas-cannot-be-right

    Comey Testimony Clears Trump
    The Hill reports Dems’ dreams dashed as Comey testimony clears Trump.
    The much-anticipated day had finally arrived. Democrats breathlessly awaited the testimony of fired FBI Director James Comey, certain that his testimony would topple Trump. But high hopes turned to dashed dreams when Comey’s testimony cleared President Trump.

    1. There was no investigation into President Donald Trump.

    Not only did the testimony vindicate the commander in chief, it included a startling revelation that Obama-era Attorney General Loretta Lynch attempted to influence the criminal investigation into Hillary Clinton.

    2. The mainstream media accusations of Russian collusion were inaccurate.

    On Feb. 14, The New York Times reported based on infamous anonymous sourcing “Trump Campaign Aides Had Repeated Contacts with Russian Intelligence.” Today, we learned that story “was not true,” in the words of Comey.

    In fact, the story so upset Comey that he surveyed the intelligence community to see if there was something he was missing. He took the extra step of seeking out Republican and Democratic senators to say that the article was not factual.

    Comey went further in his testimony pointing out the problem with the media’s anonymous source reporting. “The people talking about it often don’t really know what’s going on,” he said, later adding, “[T]here have been many, many stories reportedly based on classified information … especially about Russia that are just dead wrong.”
    3. No one ordered Comey to stop an investigation.

    Sen. Richard Burr bluntly asked Comey, “[D]id the president at any time ask you to stop the FBI Investigation into Russian involvement in the 2016 U.S. elections?” “No,” Comey replied. Comey then went on to confirm that no one working in the administration asked him to stop the investigation either.

    Comey’s admission that he was not ordered to drop the investigation aligns with Wednesday’s testimony from NSA Director Mike Rogers and DNI Director Dan Coats. Rogers testified, “I have never been directed to do anything I believe to be illegal, immoral, unethical or inappropriate.” Coats likewise said, “I have never been pressured” nor have I “felt pressure to intervene.”

    4. No votes were altered in the 2016 election.

    5. Attorney General Lynch tried to influence the Clinton criminal investigation.

    Obama Attorney General Loretta Lynch rightfully came under heavy fire for secretly meeting Bill Clinton on a tarmac just days before his wife, former Secretary of State and presidential contender Hillary Clinton, was cleared of criminal wrongdoing by the FBI. Today, we learned Lynch tried to influence Comey by asking him to call the criminal investigation a “matter,” not an “investigation.”

    The request “confused me and concerned me,” said Comey, who saw this as an effort to ask the FBI to coordinate its messaging with a political campaign.

    Taken together, when pushed on providing evidence of Russian collusion over the past few months, Democrats like Sen. Dianne Feinstein were forced to admit they had none. “Newspaper stories,” she cited last month to CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. The same newspaper stories Comey called into question today.
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    https://twitter.com/KellyanneLeaks/s...78780680032257


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  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    It was Donald who first made mention of the tapes.

    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...07411132649473
    Given his history, he was probably bullshitting, but now there is a special counsel who will either get the tapes or force him to admit he was bullshitting.
    Why would Trump encourage the idea that there might be tapes, if the content of those tapes would make him look like a liar? No one was talking about tapes before Trump tweeted about it. If recordings might make Trump look guilty, he would not have encouraged people to think about tapes. He would simply never have mentioned them.

    When Trump said that Comey "better hope there aren't tapes", it was a threat to Comey. It suggests that Trump believes any recording of the conversation would exonerate Trump and prove that Comey has not been truthful.

    Now, somehow Comey and others are suggesting that the opposite is true- that tapes would exonerate Comey and show that Trump is the one lying.

    Someone is lying, and since Trump could've entirely avoided any mention of tapes, I tend to doubt it's him.

  16. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Why would Trump encourage the idea that there might be tapes, if the content of those tapes would make him look like a liar? No one was talking about tapes before Trump tweeted about it. If recordings might make Trump look guilty, he would not have encouraged people to think about tapes. He would simply never have mentioned them.

    When Trump said that Comey "better hope there aren't tapes", it was a threat to Comey. It suggests that Trump believes any recording of the conversation would exonerate Trump and prove that Comey has not been truthful.

    Now, somehow Comey and others are suggesting that the opposite is true- that tapes would exonerate Comey and show that Trump is the one lying.

    Someone is lying, and since Trump could've entirely avoided any mention of tapes, I tend to doubt it's him.
    Yeah I just wouldn't trust "Tapes" in this day and age anyways. This political witch hunt is just a distraction anyways I bet behind the scenes they are good friends. This just seems like a big dog a pony show to me. If the private industry can digitally reproduce Michael Jackson every night on a Hologram then I bet the government could produce any sort of tape they wanted, if they wanted to fake a moon landing today, they definitely could.



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  18. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Why would Trump encourage the idea that there might be tapes, if the content of those tapes would make him look like a liar? No one was talking about tapes before Trump tweeted about it. If recordings might make Trump look guilty, he would not have encouraged people to think about tapes. He would simply never have mentioned them.

    When Trump said that Comey "better hope there aren't tapes", it was a threat to Comey. It suggests that Trump believes any recording of the conversation would exonerate Trump and prove that Comey has not been truthful.

    Now, somehow Comey and others are suggesting that the opposite is true- that tapes would exonerate Comey and show that Trump is the one lying.

    Someone is lying, and since Trump could've entirely avoided any mention of tapes, I tend to doubt it's him.
    Donald has a history of threatening people with tapes and never actually producing them. Most likely there is no grand strategy here, just the same reaction out of habit.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  19. #106
    Sessions is supposed to testify on Tuesday. Look for another media circus and then check and see what the rest of Congress is up to that day.
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  21. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Why would Trump encourage the idea that there might be tapes, if the content of those tapes would make him look like a liar? No one was talking about tapes before Trump tweeted about it. If recordings might make Trump look guilty, he would not have encouraged people to think about tapes. He would simply never have mentioned them.

    When Trump said that Comey "better hope there aren't tapes", it was a threat to Comey. It suggests that Trump believes any recording of the conversation would exonerate Trump and prove that Comey has not been truthful.

    Now, somehow Comey and others are suggesting that the opposite is true- that tapes would exonerate Comey and show that Trump is the one lying.

    Someone is lying, and since Trump could've entirely avoided any mention of tapes, I tend to doubt it's him.
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Donald has a history of threatening people with tapes and never actually producing them. Most likely there is no grand strategy here, just the same reaction out of habit.
    Trump's Tweet does seem like a reaction. A reaction to what? What threat and from whom was he responding?
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  22. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Trump's Tweet does seem like a reaction. A reaction to what? What threat and from whom was he responding?
    Probably one of those meanies in the TV.
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  23. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Probably one of those meanies in the TV.
    Come on, that is disappointing and lame. As our resident expert on left-wing, neoconservative media, the answer should have been at your fingertips.

    It was in response to Comey leaks.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/u...ey-firing.html
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  24. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Donald has a history of threatening people with tapes and never actually producing them. Most likely there is no grand strategy here, just the same reaction out of habit.
    A paraphrased quote from ThinkProgress?

    When the president is cornered, he has a habit of making up recordings that later prove to be totally fictitious.

    https://thinkprogress.org/trumps-big-tell-c869a372370a
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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  25. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    A paraphrased quote from ThinkProgress?
    No, there are first-hand accounts.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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  27. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Come on, that is disappointing and lame. As our resident expert on left-wing, neoconservative media, the answer should have been at your fingertips.

    It was in response to Comey leaks.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/u...ey-firing.html
    You are citing the NY Times?
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  28. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    You are citing the NY Times?
    One of your favorite sources. You should have remembered the sequence of events. Comey leaked, Trump responded. And the circus continues...
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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  29. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    One of your favorite sources. You should have remembered the sequence of events. Comey leaked, Trump responded. And the circus continues...
    This sequence seems incomplete.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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