What's the biggest violation of rights in the US?

[Madison320]

Obviously this is subjective but I'd argue that progressive taxation is by far the biggest violation of rights. At least if you put a monetary figure on it. Trillions of dollars are unfairly stolen from a minority group of taxpayers every year. If they don't pay they're threatened with jail time. There's no equal treatment under the law.

[Anti Federalist]

Property taxation.

You never own anything.

You are merely a serf, squatting on the King's land, at the King's pleasure.

[otherone]

UGH.
EVERY aspect of life is under the jurisprudence of the state. Every last $#@!ing one. They have the power to "decide" what is "allowed". There is no "I" in Soviet Amerika, comrade. If you haven't been charged, you haven't been noticed. Yet.

[tod evans]

The ability to take your children.

[Anti Federalist]

UGH.
EVERY aspect of life is under the jurisprudence of the state. Every last $#@!ing one. They have the power to "decide" what is "allowed". There is no "I" in Soviet Amerika, comrade. If you haven't been charged, you haven't been noticed. Yet.

This.

It truly is subjective, as all we are arguing about is what link in the chain around our neck is the worst.

[Madison320]

Property taxation.

You never own anything.

You are merely a serf, squatting on the King's land, at the King's pleasure.

Yeah, that's a good one. I hate property taxes for that reason. I much prefer sales or even income tax.

[BV2]

Passport. Its like a serf id card. Well it IS.

[Madison320]

Passport. Its like a serf id card. Well it IS.

Yeah, but medieval serfs only had to pay about a 15% tax rate. The most productive in the US have to pay close to 70% in some areas.

[fisharmor]

Property taxation.

You never own anything.

This is the biggest violation. But the biggest PROBLEM, the thing that we need to attack more vigorously than any other libertarian talking point, is what they do with that money.

They destroy your right to own property, and use the tax revenues to run public schools, where they raise a new generation of tax cattle who have been conditioned to accept that they will never own property.

Focus on what the biggest violations are... but attack the thing that makes most of us meekly accept them.

[timosman]

Corporate brainwashing.

[tod evans]

Sorry ya'll my kid trumps your $#@!.

Get government out of child custody then we can talk about property.

[specsaregood]

Sorry ya'll my kid trumps your $#@!.

Get government out of child custody then we can talk about property.

One could argue that if it was truly your property, it would be tough for them to remove the child from the property.

But we are just picking nits with all this.

[Suzanimal]

Jeez, it's hard to pick just one but if I had to, it would probably be property taxes.

[Madison320]

This is the biggest violation. But the biggest PROBLEM, the thing that we need to attack more vigorously than any other libertarian talking point, is what they do with that money.

They destroy your right to own property, and use the tax revenues to run public schools, where they raise a new generation of tax cattle who have been conditioned to accept that they will never own property.

Focus on what the biggest violations are... but attack the thing that makes most of us meekly accept them.

If I was king for a day my first proclamation would be to only allow net taxpayers to vote. Second would be to ban public education although if you implement the first the second might be unnecessary.

[TheTexan]

Paying 40-50% of your income in net taxes I think is a fair trade, for the roads you drive on, the wars overseas, the firetruck you probably will never need, and the Police who keep us safe from violent criminals who rob and steal

Ad the TSA which saves countless lives every year with their advanced groping techniques

[TheTexan]

If I was king for a day my first proclamation would be to only allow net taxpayers to vote.

Racist. Why do you hate black people

[timosman]

If I was king for a day my first proclamation would be to only allow net taxpayers to vote.

The net taxpayers already have an unfair advantage of deriving an income from their work. They should have their privilege checked. The only citizens allowed to vote should be the disadvantaged ones, the ones who do not pay taxes.

[Danke]

Our courts.

[Madison320]

The net taxpayers already have an unfair advantage of deriving an income from their work. They should have their privilege checked. The only citizens allowed to vote should be the disadvantaged ones, the ones who do not pay taxes.

Ha! Ha!

The really funny part is that I wouldn't get to vote. I work for a private business but on a govt contract. I should be excluded from voting and I have no problem with that.

[Sola_Fide]

I used to think property was the paramount of rights, but I've begun to think that liberty of conscience is even more fundamental. The right of conscience is the source of every other right.

[Madison320]

Paying 40-50% of your income in net taxes I think is a fair trade, for the roads you drive on, the wars overseas, the firetruck you probably will never need, and the Police who keep us safe from violent criminals who rob and steal

Ad the TSA which saves countless lives every year with their advanced groping techniques

I actually hear that all the time only they're SERIOUS!!!

They'll say something like "how do you expect to pay for the roads and police and fire department?". And I'm thinking, "if that's all the govt did then you only need about 1% max from those rich people. You need to give back the other 60-70% you stole from them."

[otherone]

Ha! Ha!

The really funny part is that I wouldn't get to vote. I work for a private business but on a govt contract. I should be excluded from voting and I have no problem with that.

Wait...if you can't vote, how will you know if you are free?

[TheTexan]

Wait...if you can't vote, how will you know if you are free?

+rep voting is a fundamental right and freedom cant exist without it