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[Prince Arthur]

The Gadsden Flag of 1775 – ‘Don’t Tread on Me’

Legend of the Leg End - the Gadsden Flag of 1775 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

Christopher Gadsden (1724 – 1805) was the principal leader of the South Carolina Patriot movement during the American Revolution.

In 1766 Gadsden was appointed as a delegate to the Stamp Act Congress in New York City, which was called to protest the Stamp Act.

Gadsden ‘UNDER-STOOD’ the true meaning of the ‘STAMP ACT’.


Why do we STAND UNDER something when we have an UNDERSTANDING?

Legend of the Leg End - Do You Under Stand by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

Order of the Knights of the Garter.
Founded 1348, Woodstock, Oxford, England.
An elite ‘British’ Order limited to 24 knights at any one time…

[Prince Arthur]

More Acts of Stamping by the Knights of the Garter and their Agents

Uncle Sam – “PUTTING HIS FOOT DOWN”
(Another reference to the Knights of the Garter and the ‘Boot of Italy’ stamping their authority on China)
N.Y.: Published by Keppler & Schwarzmann, 1899 August 23.

Legend of the Leg End - the Takeover of China by the Knights of the Garter by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

To the general public, America appeared to have won independence from the colonies in 1776 but was actually firmly under the control of the Knights of the Garter and the Holy Roman Empire.

Print shows Uncle Sam holding a "Trade Treaty with China", standing on a "Map of China" in the midst of foreign rulers labeled "Germany, Italy, England, Austria, Russia [and] France"; depicted are William II, Umberto I, John Bull, Franz Joseph I sharpening scissors at a grinding stone in the background, Uncle Sam, Nicholas II, and Emile Loubet, each with large scissors, intent on cutting up the map.

KG#767 William II Kaiser Wilhelm II, Germany appointed 1877
KG#768 Umberto I King of Italy, appointed 1878
KG#754 Franz Joseph I Emperor of Austria, appointed 1867
KG#802 Nicholas II Emperor and Autocrat of all the Russias apptd 1893
John Bull a national personification of the United Kingdom
Emile Loubet President of France
Uncle Sam a national personification of the USA

Order of the Knights of the Garter.
Founded 1348, Woodstock, Oxford, England.
An elite ‘British’ Order limited to 24 knights at any one time…

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Typical Knights of the Garter Humour:


Legend of the Leg End - Putting Boots on Computers by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

HSQMYP French Caricature 1899 v3 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

French Caricature from 1899 – No Guess Work Required - World Domination…


Flickr photostream….

https://www.flickr.com/photos/142603527@N02/

[Prince Arthur]

Maps and Legends

Historically, maps would bear the coat of arms of who claimed dominion and absolute authority over the land prescribed.

Modern maps are produced with ‘Legends’ (Leg-Ends) - a continuation of the metaphorical ‘Boot Print’ or ‘Stamp’ claiming ownership and control by the Knights of the Garter….

Typical Knights of the Garter Humour….

Legend of the Leg End - Virginia USA by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

Legend of the Leg End - New England USA by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

Legend of the Leg End - Modern Maps by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

Legend of the Leg End - Isle of Man by Prince Arthur, on Flickr


The Knights of the Garter have been the Kings of the Isle of Man since the foundation of the order in 1348

William Montagu, 2nd Earl of Salisbury, King of Mann, KG #6 (apptd 1348)
Williem le Scrope, 1st Earl of Wiltshire, King of Mann, KG #85 (apptd 1395)
Henry Percy, 1st Earl of Northumberland, King of Mann, KG #43 (apptd 1366)
John Stanley, King of Mann, KG #109 (apptd 1405)
Thomas Stanley, 1st Baron Stanley, King of Mann, KG #174 (apptd 1457)
Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of Derby, King of Mann, KG #224 (apptd 1483)
Edward Stanley, 3rd Earl of Derby, Lord of Mann, KG #319 (apptd 1547)
Henry Stanley, 4th Earl of Derby, Lord of Mann, KG #359 (apptd 1574)
Henry Howard, 1st Earl of Northampton, Lord of Mann KG #400 (apptd 1605)
Robert Cecil, 1st Earl of Salisbury, Lord of Mann, KG #401 (apptd 1606)
William Stanley, 6th Earl of Derby, Lord of Mann, KG #391 (apptd 1601)
James Stanley, 7th Earl of Derby, Lord of Mann, KG #452 (apptd 1650)

By the passage of the Isle of Man Purchase Act 1765 the title of Lord of Mann was revested into the British Crown. It has therefore since been used in the Isle of Man to refer to the reigning British monarch (all Heads of the Order of the Knights of the Garter).

Are the Knights of the Garter connected with the Three Legs of Sicily (the Triskelion), the ‘Boot of Italy’ and the Holy Roman Empire?




Order of the Knights of the Garter.
Founded 1348, Woodstock, Oxford, England.
An elite ‘British’ Order limited to 24 knights at any one time…

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Legend of the Leg End - Super Powers by Prince Arthur, on Flickr


The Knights of the Garter and their Super Powers at Buckingham Palace, London, UK.

The Garter Sashes and Stars clearly on display to confirm the UNDER STANDING of the situation.

Order of the Knights of the Garter.
Founded 1348, Woodstock, Oxford, England.
An elite ‘British’ Order limited to 24 knights at any one time…

[Prince Arthur]

Does America know what's in store for them courtesy of the Knights of the Garter?



Legend of the Leg End - Making America Great Again by Prince Arthur, on Flickr



Donald's next job - to foment a Civil War?



Donald Trump Queen Elizabeth II State Dinner Buckingham Palace 030619 by Prince Arthur, on Flickr



Order of the Knights of the Garter.
Founded 1348, Woodstock, Oxford, England.
An elite ‘British’ Order limited to 24 knights at any one time…

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Legend of the Leg End - the King of Italy


World War 2 - all sides controlled by the Knights of the Garter

Victor Emmanuel III (Knight of the Garter #794) appointed Benito Mussolini as Prime Minister of Italy in 1922 and gave him ‘the boot’ in 1943…

Legend of the Leg End - the King of Italy by Prince Arthur, on Flickr

Order of the Knights of the Garter.
Founded 1348, Woodstock, Oxford, England.
An elite ‘British’ Order limited to 24 knights at any one time…

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Thanks to @Snowball…

The following article argues that Donald is an initiated freemason (or some other occult, satanic cult).

Donald Trump often poses with the (Satanic) inverted pyramid gesture. If Trump regularly shows this symbolic gesture openly and in plain sight… this is an invocation to his “god” (Lucifer, Baal) in plain sight.


During Donald’s campaign in 2016, his staff wore a lapel pin shaped as an inverted pyramid, with the colours purple and gold.


The following image shows US President Harry S Truman in his Grand Master Freemasonic apron - note the inverted triangle with the all-seeing eye (of Horus, Odin).


What does this inverted pyramid mean?!? This all leads to the child sacrifice, fertility cult of Baal.
Baal was the male deity of the cult, and Asherah was the female. Asherah goes by several names, including: Astarte, Ashtoreth, Atargatis, Athirat, Venus, Isis, Juno, Ishtar, the queen of heaven, Aphrodite, and Hadad.
The inverted triangle represents the vagina of Asherah; see the following image of Asherah.


Occult practitioners also use the inverted triangle as a sign for Lucifer.


Trump Tower blatantly shows that Donald worships the horned one.
See the inverted pyramid at Trump Tower, made up of a grove of trees (trees represent the feminine). The inverted pyramid represents the female Asherah, while the fertility feast for Baal always took place with a grove of trees…
Also look to the top of Trump Tower, where there are the 7 columns, which represent the 7 pillars rising for Baal!


Also count the trees on the sides of the inverted pyramid.
Each side has 6 trees; so Trump’s inverted triangle represents 666.

In conclusion of Trump Tower.
– Trump Tower features the numbers 666 on an inverted pyramid.
– Trump Tower exhibits 7 sections that rise like the 7 pillars of Baal.
– Trump has pagan deities on the ceiling of his penthouse.
– Trump’s penthouse’s interior replicates the interior of a grand Lodge.
http://web.archive.org/web/20201022035105/https://christianobserver.net/the-trump-chronicles/
(https://archive.is/9Ji8r)


For more on Baal: Dragon-court#post6781249

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The inverted triangle represents the vagina of Asherah; see the following image of Asherah (d21:Isis).

Whatcha think the Oval Office is?

And then gaze at Osiris' tall, erect manhood just across the Mall?

heh

Speaking of which, Dec 21 is the conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter (Osiris and Isis), and falls on the winter solstice, which is the "birthday of Horus/Jesus". Might be some fireworks that day.


(To further put a point on it, Biden's text code was 30330. 2020/666)

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In Canaanite lore, Baal was the ruler of Heaven, and god of the sun, rain, thunder, fertility, and agriculture. The Ras Shamra tablets, discovered in northern Syria in 1958, suggest that at one time Baal was their Supreme god.
Baal Hammon was the supreme god of the Carthaginians.
Baal-worship included sex ritual that once included Israelites.

I wanted to post this before the pagan Christ "mass" celebration but didn't have access to the internet...




Here's some more information on the connection to the "Christian" Christmas celibration and the child sacrifice, sex cult for Baal.

Baal-Berith (the Babylonian Tammuz) was symbolized as an evergreen, or immortal tree. The Christmas tree, then decked with gold (deity), and silver (unlimited provision), represents the deified, reincarnation life of Nimrod, which has sprung forth from the dead tree stump.

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Since the earliest of times, trees, especially green evergreens, were worshipped by the pagans. To them it represented life and freshness. Since it was EVER green, it always had life. The trees were worshipped as symbols of life, fertility, sexual potency and reproduction (emphasis in original).

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Alexander Hislop had this to say about the origin of the Christ 'mass' tree:

The Christmas tree, now so common amoung us, was equally common in PAGAN ROME AND PAGAN EGYPT . In Egypt that tree was the palm tree; in Rome it was the fir; the palm tree denoting the Pagan Messiah as Baal-Tamar the fir referring to him as Baal-Berith. The mother of Adonis, the sun god and great mediatorial divinity, was mystically said to have been changed into a TREE, and when in that state to have brought forth her divine son. If the mother was a tree, the son must have been recognized as the 'Man the branch.'
And this entirely accounts for putting the Yule Log into the fire on Christmas-eve, and the appearance of the Christmas tree the next morning. The Christmas tree, as has been stated, was generally at Rome a different tree, even the fir; but the very same idea as was implied in the palm-tree was implied in the Christmas fir; for that covertly symbolized the new-born God as BAAL-BERITH, 'Lord of the Covenant,' and thus shadowed forth the perpetuity and everlasting nature of his power, now that after having fallen before his enemies, he has risen triumphant over them all.
Therefore, the 25th of December, the day that was observed at Rome as the day when the victorious god appeared on eath, was held as the Natalis invicti solis, 'The birthday of the Unconquerable Sun. Now the Yule Log is the dead stock of Nimrod, deified as the sun god, but cut down by his enemies; the Christmas tree is Nimrod redivivus - the slain god comes to life again.

http://www.a-voice.org/tidbits/xtree.htm
(https://archive.is/zxQvN)




Or see the following 3 excerpts from another interesting article,

Shortly after JESUS' death, persecutions of the Believers began as Satan began his plan to pollute what God had begun. Years later the Devil began a religious system that he hoped would replace the true church. The persecutions were temporarily stopped, and a deal was offered to both the Christians and pagans It went something like this: let's stop fighting over our religious differences and just Christianize the pagan gods and holidays. Both sides gave a little so they could all live in peace. By doing that, the Christian commitment and dedication to JESUS CHRIST only would have been seriously damaged. I beseech you brethren by the mercies of God that you approach this material with a heart and mind seeking the truth, and that you will prayerfully consider the facts contained within these pages. Remember that after the big compromise, the true Believers didn't accept the new system, but chose to go into hiding rather than deny their Lord and Savior.

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Actually, Christmas (or CHRIST-mass) was the direct adoption of a heathen festival observed on December 24 and 25, in honor of the son of the Babylonian queen, Astarte. Observed for centuries BEFORE CHRIST, the Chaldeans called this "child day" or "yule day". (Does the expression, "yule time season" sound familiar)?

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Druids used holly and mistletoe in their ceremonies. They worshiped the oak tree. Gilded nuts and balls or ornaments symbolize the sun.

http://demonbuster.com/christmas.html
(https://archive.is/y6DDO)

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Now this is strange, in this thread I've traced the "new world order" back to the Carolingians, Order of the Garter and the Venetian black Nobility. Now the following article (again from Lyndon LaRouche's network) connects all these dots, but not like I pictured...
This post is mostly about the origins of Freemasonry, founded in the 17th century, when Amsterdam was the opium and money centre of the "civilised" world.




In the 9th century, King Pepin of Italy, son of Charlemagne King of the Franks, tried unsuccessfully to conquer Charlemagne's enemy Venice.
This of course doesn't mean that Venice was still the enemy of the Carolingians in the 13th and following centuries, but that is apparently the conclusion of the Larouchians.


In the 13th century, the Venetians were at their top of military power and aimed to create a new Roman Empire with Venice at its centre . They expanded into the Italian mainland, Greek islands, and the Black Sea. They helped to defeat the Hohenstaufen rulers of Germany and Italy.
Venetian intelligence assisted Genghis Khan in his brutal campaign against powers that resisted Venice.
Later, after a series of wars Venice and Genoa joined forces.


The Venetian bankers (a.k.a. Lombards) looted Europe through usurious loans. In the years after 1255, Henry III of England became insolvent after getting Lombard loans at 120-180% interest to fight foreign wars . These loans started the Venetian Party in England.
When the Lombard bankers went bankrupt because the English didn't pay, a collapse of the European economy followed and the Black Plague that depopulated the continent. In the midst of the chaos, the Venetians encouraged their ally Edward III of England, to wage war against France (the Hundred Years War 1339-1453), and found the Most Noble Order of the Garter (around 1348).


While Venice had always been the enemies of science, Paolo Sarpi realised that the Venetians must now present themselves as the great champions of science, to seize control, corrupt and ultimately destroy the scientific community from the inside, through Aristotelian formalism and sense certainty.


Sarpi sponsored and directed the career of Galileo Galilei, who was used for a counterattack against the Platonic method of Johannes Kepler.
The supposed founder of Physics, Isaac Newton’s main interest was alchemy. His sources were kooks like Elias Ashmole, the Rosicrucian leader of British speculative Freemasonry: https://archive.schillerinstitute.co...52_venice.html
(https://archive.is/cBNzl)




The following has more information on how the Venetians created Freemasonry in England.
In 1616, the Protestant-Anglican royal marriage of James I's daughter to the Elector of Palatine was the talk of England. For Venice, a significant counterweight to the Habsburgs.


Also in 1616, the first Rosicrucian tract - the "Fama'' - is written, calling for the formation of a Brotherhood of the Rosy Cross. It is not too distant from what Sarpi's friend, Francis Bacon, is calling for. Shortly thereafter, another Rosicrucian document - the "Confession'' - is published.
Both written in German and circulated in the territory of the Elector of Palatine.


This is followed by several other Rosicrucian documents, all claiming to have solved the riddle of the relationship between the microcosm and the macrocosm.
One of these books was written by Robert Fludd, who is attacked by Kepler as a mystic who uses numbers as a form of cabalistic symbolism.


The beginning of the Long Parliament and a series of meetings in England, in 1640, led to the creation of the British Royal Society. Robert Moray in Edinburgh in 1641 is the first recorded induction into the Freemasons, quickly followed by Elias Ashmole. Both Ashmole and Moray were founding members of the British Royal Society.
The other major explicitly Rosicrucian figure was Isaac Newton, who had copies of both the Fama and the Confessio in his library.


Historian Frances Yates quotes one De Quincey:

Freemasonry is neither more nor less than Rosicrucianism as modified by those who transplanted it in England, whence it was re-exported to the other countries of Europe.

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An announcement for one of the Freemasons meetings in 1676 reads:

To give notice that the Modern Green-ribboned Cabal, together with the ancient brotherhood of the Rosy Cross: the Hermetic Adepti and the company of Accepted Masons...

https://american_almanac.tripod.com/venfreem.htm
(https://archive.is/oR6i)




The last is a much longer article, whose main value for me is that it doesn't come from LaRouche, and independently confirms the LaRouche information...


According to John Robinson. all of the original members of the Royal Society were Freemasons, with Rosicrucian elements.


Metaphorically Rosicrucians were Rose Cross men - men who used Bacon's discovery device (which has a compass design in the plays) to make the metaphoric voyage beyond the pillars of Hercules in search of the New World of the sciences.
Freemasonry society. In Bacon's time it was a true secret society.


The Temple of Solomon of Freemasonry is a model of the universe. The compass with the Rosicrucian rose is a metaphoric model of the world. Both are built into the First Folio, with its design of the 32 directions of the compass, and the 36 decans of the zodiac.



The Rosicrucian Fraternity was designed as a metaphoric complement to the Freemason Society (or vice versa).
There is a close affinity with the New Atlantis - the land of the Rosicrucians: http://www.sirbacon.org/mcompeer2.htm

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The following is an overview of some of the slave drivers that got huge slavery abolishment payments from the British government, whose legacy lives on through their descendants. Many members of these families were later installed as Knight in the Order of the Garter (KG).
About one-fifth of wealthy Victorian Britons derived (part of) their fortunes from the slave economy.

One of Britain's earliest bankster families, the Barings, got slave compensation (Alexander Baring KG in 1969, followed by 3 other Barings).
Also the second Earl of Harewood, Henry Lascelles, an ancestor of Queen Eliabeth II's cousin and KG since 1922, received £26,309 pounds for 2,554 slaves.

John Gladstone received a whopping £106,769 (equivalent to £83 million in 2013).
John was the father of 19th-century prime minister William Gladstone, who was directly involved in his father's claim. His great-grandson, also William Gladstone, became a KG in 1999.

The ancestors of former minister Douglas Hogg, whose son Quintin Hogg became a KG in 1988, got huge compensation payments.
The Hogg dynasty are descendants of Charles McGarel, who made a fortune from slave ownership. From 1835 to 1837, he received an astounding £129,464 for his 2,489 slaves (comparable to £101 million in 2013 money).

Also ancestors of ... received slave compensation payments.
Former PM David Cameron (high nobility Bullingdon boy, who is a favourite to become KG),
Famous authors Graham Greene and George Orwell: British-slavery-abolishment-compensation

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The following is an overview of some of the slave drivers that got huge slavery abolishment payments from the British government, whose legacy lives on through their descendants. Many members of these families were later installed as Knight in the Order of the Garter (KG).
About one-fifth of wealthy Victorian Britons derived (part of) their fortunes from the slave economy.

One of Britain's earliest bankster families, the Barings, got slave compensation (Alexander Baring KG in 1969, followed by 3 other Barings).
Also the second Earl of Harewood, Henry Lascelles, an ancestor of Queen Eliabeth II's cousin and KG since 1922, received £26,309 pounds for 2,554 slaves.

John Gladstone received a whopping £106,769 (equivalent to £83 million in 2013).
John was the father of 19th-century prime minister William Gladstone, who was directly involved in his father's claim. His great-grandson, also William Gladstone, became a KG in 1999.

The ancestors of former minister Douglas Hogg, whose son Quintin Hogg became a KG in 1988, got huge compensation payments.
The Hogg dynasty are descendants of Charles McGarel, who made a fortune from slave ownership. From 1835 to 1837, he received an astounding £129,464 for his 2,489 slaves (comparable to £101 million in 2013 money).

Also ancestors of ... received slave compensation payments.
Former PM David Cameron (high nobility Bullingdon boy, who is a favourite to become KG),
Famous authors Graham Greene and George Orwell: British-slavery-abolishment-compensation

Just wondering if you think that David Hogg, of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas shooting, is of the same Hogg family? David's facial structure bears resemblance to other Hoggs in the same age range, like Charlotte Hogg, sister of Quinton.

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Just wondering if you think that David Hogg, of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas shooting, is of the same Hogg family? David's facial structure bears resemblance to other Hoggs in the same age range, like Charlotte Hogg, sister of Quinton.

I like you, but I'm disapointed in this reply. Somebody with a not uncommon name like "Hogg" being a descendant because he looks a bit similar?!?
Or am I missing something?

The following is interesting. Even though David Hogg has a relatively low 1270 SAT score, he was still admitted to Harvard.
Morons are now arguing that because Hogg was at the centre of a media hysteria, he's a "leader", which should be more important to universities than his SAT score that confirms he isn't very smart: https://www.insider.com/david-hogg-a...ctions-2018-12


Following are 2 interesting pieces of information that could be food for thought.


The brother of elite Brooklyn Jew Aaron Mostofsky (who was one of the protesters that broke into the Capitol wearing stolen police gear), Nachman Mostofsky, is executive director of the organisation Chovevei Zion: Breaking-PATRIOTS-Have-stormed-capitol-building-Masses-Breached-Barriers&p=7012429&viewfull=1#post7012429

Chovevei Zion explains that at the root of "American" Zionism are:

Athens. Rome. London.
These 3 cities led to the creation of the greatest experiment of government the world has ever known.

https://choveveizion.org/
(https://archive.is/uWJSg)



A long time ago, you've posted about the relevance of the Rosicrucians but couldn't quite explain how this all fits in (at least not in a way I could understand).

In post #192 I've given information that in the 17th century the Rosicrucians founded Freemasonry and the British Royal Society (that was founded to substitute "science" with Masonic speculation).
When I saw that you replied, I sort of hoped that this motivated you to post some good information on the Rosicrucians...

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I like you, but I'm disapointed in this reply. Somebody with a not uncommon name like "Hogg" being a descendant because he looks a bit similar?!?
Or am I missing something?

Dang bro, no need to go all schoolmarm about it. I've come to accept that some of the "main characters" that are placed front and center by the media after false flags and hoaxes, which are the bread and butter tactics of the sheep herders, are members of the families. There were a lot of issues about the David Hogg backstory that emerged after the Stoneman (heh...a stone man is a mason) event, such as that he wasn't a student there, was already a CNN trainee and wanted to be in media, his claimed timeline didn't make sense, among others. I looked up the Hogg family you referenced and immediately noticed the similar unusual facial structure shared by both David and members of that Hogg family.

The following is interesting. Even though David Hogg has a relatively low 1270 SAT score, he was still admitted to Harvard.
Morons are now arguing that because Hogg was at the centre of a media hysteria, he's a "leader", which should be more important to universities than his SAT score that confirms he isn't very smart: https://www.insider.com/david-hogg-a...ctions-2018-12

Being in a "family" can over rule basic academic qualifications, especially for admission into elite training programs like Harvard.

A long time ago, you've posted about the relevance of the Rosicrucians but couldn't quite explain how this all fits in (at least not in a way I could understand).

In post #192 I've given information that in the 17th century the Rosicrucians founded Freemasonry and the British Royal Society (that was founded to substitute "science" with Masonic speculation).
When I saw that you replied, I sort of hoped that this motivated you to post some good information on the Rosicrucians...

You'll find this document interesting: Jesuit Order created the Scottish Rite
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...i3jkoaKvI/edit

Rosicrucians and Jesuits are closely related societies and one of the degrees of Scottish Rite is Knight of the Rosy Cross.
Richardson's Monitor, page 162 details the degree ritual. This document is an important reference overall so good to save.
http://www.themasonictrowel.com/eboo...nry/eb0348.pdf

There's just not a lot of info about the Rosicrucian Order since they are probably the best at keeping their secrets secret. I find what info is available is very heavy and difficult to understand.
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/s...ings/sta34.htm

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On Rosicrusians:
It's widely believed that the Georgia Guidestones were erected by Rosicrucians, since it's signed "R.C. Christian". Likely refers to Christian Rosencrus. I think it could also be Roman Catholic Christian. Not much separation there though, given the Jesuit>Freemason>Rosicrucian connection, so could be both.

Rosicrucians consider humanity to be in a constant state of suffering and that this existence is actually hell. Sorta hard to disagree with that assessment at times lol. They are also very naturalist/nature. Refer to the commandments of the Guidestones, particularly the 500m population figure, along with eugenic themes. What Rosicrucians believe is that a cataclysm occurs cyclically and periodically ends humanity's suffering. The thing is, they may be working to mass depopulate the planet PRIOR to cataclysm, so as to make the transition easier and to also ensure that whatever society emerges after the cataclysm is still under their control. That is probably the Phoenix symbolism so prevalent (rebirth after death) and Eagle symbolism of the US and the double headed eagle is a representation of the Phoenix. --------- eta: I have gathered (meaning I could be wrong) that they also believe in reincarnation of the soul. If humans are reincarnated into this hell-world over and over, the only way to alleviate suffering is to first prevent and/or strictly guide reproduction in conjunction with depopulation. This theoretically prevents reincarnation into this hell-world of suffering and releases souls into the next dimension of existence. A noble cause, if they are indeed correct, especially if you're not on their whack list and are still around to take part in the rebirth. Otherwise, it's just mass global genocide in the name of a belief that isn't provable and a cataclysm that may not happen any time soon.

The first half of this video gives good insight into it. I'm sure this is pretty accurate info and was from 2010, long before the ridiculous amount of shilling and disinfo ops on the net. Well worth the watch of at least the first half of the video. Gets a bit woo-woo after that, though. Fits with what we've seen occur in recent history (and still ongoing) along with likely Rosicrucian motives and doctrine.

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Dang bro, no need to go all schoolmarm about it.

I've lost interest in David Hogg a long time ago, because he wasn't important but got lots of publicity.
You'll probably don't like my reaction to "your" disinfo video either...

The first half of this video gives good insight into it. I'm sure this is pretty accurate info and was from 2010, long before the ridiculous amount of shilling and disinfo ops on the net. Well worth the watch of at least the first half of the video. Gets a bit woo-woo after that, though. Fits with what we've seen occur in recent history (and still ongoing) along with likely Rosicrucian motives and doctrine.

I don't find this actor/video very convincing.
In short, of the "plan" he describes the only thing that came true... is the 2008 market crash, but you don't need to talk to some "insider" to "predict" that in 2010!

Since the corona "pandemic" was started in March 2019, we've seen the following.

Small businesses are bankrupted.
The speculation bubble has been blown up to mythical proportions, by printing/lending money.
A mass vaccination campaign was started, with emergency approved vaccines that haven't been properly tested.
Health care is severely restricted and under strict control.
Most of our "rights" have been simply taken away.
The last of our privacy has been taken away, to complete the surveillance state.

None of these issues are addressed in the video you posted, so isn't a good description of the "plan" at all (2010 was the year of the Rockefeller lockstep plan).
Things will only get worse if people don't stand up against the ever more draconian measures (but maybe protests will even be used as an argument for even more drastic measures).

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I guess that @devil21 is well aware that David Icke has been pushed into the spotlight as a disinformation agent, while discrediting "conspiracy theorists".
Your video actually reminded me of Icke, and wouldn't you know? In 2009, Project Camelot interviewed Icke (including the actor with the hat).

I don't really recommend the following, but suggest you to watch the beginning, where David Icke makes some hand gestures that I believe are "masonic".
And the end (2:07:58) where they end the interview with masonic handshakes (see screenshot below)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4UyEUldOLQ



For more on disinformation agent David Icke: https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/vie...hp?f=30&t=1125

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The man I talked to a couple of months ago on the streets of Amsterdam was a whole lot more convincing. He told me that in March 2019 he had predicted that in 2020 an epidemic would be staged and posted about it on social media (not claiming to be/know any sort of "insider").
I told him that since 2016 I've also expected that an epidemic would be staged.

It isn't often that I meet someone that has been targetted in a similar way as I have been.
He told me that a bunch of bailiffs were involved in a war against him, confiscating all of his assets (not worth much) and that the tax department had broken into his house.

This man was obviously in a lot of trouble, and there really was nothing more I could do for him than warn him. I haven't seen this man in a while; he used to walk his dog daily...
And I'm still alive, looking (but not feeling) stronger than ever.

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I've lost interest in David Hogg a long time ago, because he wasn't important but got lots of publicity.
You'll probably don't like my reaction to "your" disinfo video either...

I don't find this actor/video very convincing.
In short, of the "plan" he describes the only thing that came true... is the 2008 market crash, but you don't need to talk to some "insider" to "predict" that in 2010!

I don't think questioning how convincing it is automatically means it's "disinfo". That's rather dismissive. Nor is simply interviewing someone a solid indicator of a disinfo operation nor is merely being a mason by itself an indicator of a disinfo agent. When CNN interviewed Ron Paul, did that mean Dr. Paul was disinfo even though he is a mason also? We all have different understandings of what is going on. I think his details of the big picture agenda are accurate however, regarding depopulation ahead of a believed cataclysm, which also fits with what has transpired and looks to be ramping up more with vaccine sterilization/depop. The mission to also gain centralized control of the planet's resources, using the US as a tool, also would fit in with such an agenda.

Any way, take what you think is useful and discard what you don't. I'm focused on getting to what is the biggest agenda, not focusing all attention on subcomponents of it, like who belonged to what Order 100 years ago. No offense to you or Prince Arthur but knowledge that the heads of state during war time are all working together is "Conspiracy 101" stuff. The question, imo, is what is the biggest agenda, and what are the real controllers (like Committee of 300, which various Order members are members of) doing and why?

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Any way, take what you think is useful and discard what you don't. I'm focused on getting to what is the biggest agenda, not focusing all attention on subcomponents of it, like who belonged to what Order 100 years ago. No offense to you or Prince Arthur but knowledge that the heads of state during war time are all working together is "Conspiracy 101" stuff. The question, imo, is what is the biggest agenda, and what are the real controllers (like Committee of 300, which various Order members are members of) doing and why?

You post a very weak video in a thread I started, and then expect me to not comment on it?!?

Some might argue that your persistance on claiming that the Vatican rules the world is rather childish.
And you've never quite explained how those Jesuits control the Vatican.
Or why everybody that has been to a Jesuit school is a Jesuit.

If you post a video like that it's obvious that you don't get the full picture.
But this of course applies to all of us.

You seem to be clueless regarding technology and science and without some proper understanding (education), you will never discover (some) disinformation.

The Most Noble Order of the Garter still rules the world...

[devil21]

You post a very weak video in a thread I started, and then expect me to not comment on it?!?

Some might argue that your persistance on claiming that the Vatican rules the world is rather childish.
And you've never quite explained how those Jesuits control the Vatican.
Or why everybody that has been to a Jesuit school is a Jesuit.

If you post a video like that it's obvious that you don't get the full picture.
But this of course applies to all of us.

You seem to be clueless regarding technology and science and without some proper understanding (education), you will never discover (some) disinformation.

The Most Noble Order of the Garter still rules the world...

Like I said, we each have our own courses of study that contribute to our views. I have no idea what technology and science has to do with the Dragon Court specifically but ok. Have you spent time researching cataclysmic cycles and how they relate to progression of the Zodiac and how those secrets apply to secret society esoteric teachings revealed in biblical scripture? I have. So no, neither of us are experts on all subjects but offering info and viewpoints is what I thought we were here for. I guess not. You're welcome for the Rosicrucian info you requested btw.

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Maybe a little simple, but often when somebody derails one of "my" threads with bull$hit, to me this looks like a ploy to bury some information they want to keep a secret.
I can't say that I really understand why higher level, initiated masons don't want their lower level brothers to find out the real foundation of freemasonry hundreds of years ago in the 17th century but here it is again...

[devil21]

I've never been thinly accused of being a Mason disinfo agent before. Knowing a good bit about the fraternity, beliefs and tactics can engender that response when points of contention arise, I guess. Any way, your information is always interesting and well researched Firestarter but I honestly get a bit frustrated reading threads like this because you never seem to come to any conclusions about what the point of any of this information actually means. Round and round we go but never any conclusions about what the agendas really are or how the rubber meets the road. Without taking all information into account to start to form actionable conclusions that we can all benefit from, including being open to info that may not conform to your opinions, it starts to look like mostly mental masturbation without a point. You say I don't understand science but I approach these subjects using the scientific method. Evidence, hypothesis, action. Lots of evidence, little hypothesis and no action is what I see, especially as the noose continues to tighten on us all.

To briefly answer about Jesuits and the Vatican, the worldwide effort underway is to commoditize and inventory everything under a global Cestui Que Trust, which was declared as Roman law by the Vatican -prior- to the British implementing it (who was ordering who?) after the Fire of London in 1666. The script being played out on the world is Revelation and was written long before any of the dates posted in this thread. This is a religious belief agenda at its core. Revelation also appears to document signs in the heavens to look for prior to the cataclysm and this is what is actually taught in the highest levels of secret societies, the pagan roots of the societies of watching and worshiping the heavens. I get the feeling you spend a lot of time researching the people involved and how they connect, and you're very good at that, but not much time researching what those people believe and how that connects them and for what purpose/goal.

Any way, enjoy your thread. I won't post info or questions to it further. It's clear you aren't interested in receiving any information or conclusions that don't conform with your conclusions, which seem to be rather limited in scope, all things considered. That is the most unscientific of mindsets imo...

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Maybe a little simple, but often when somebody derails one of "my" threads with bull$hit, to me this looks like a ploy to bury some information they want to keep a secret.
I can't say that I really understand why higher level, initiated masons don't want their lower level brothers to find out the real foundation of freemasonry hundreds of years ago in the 17th century but here it is again...


There is only one strategy against a troll that is only interested in hiding information by just continuing posting BS. Ignore.

The troll motivated me to start a "new" thread: Freemasonry-Rosecrucians-and-the-destruction-of-science

[devil21]

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Maybe a little simple, but often when somebody derails one of "my" threads with bull$hit, to me this looks like a ploy to bury some information they want to keep a secret.
I can't say that I really understand why higher level, initiated masons don't want their lower level brothers to find out the real foundation of freemasonry hundreds of years ago in the 17th century but here it is again...


While Venice had always been the enemies of science, Paolo Sarpi realised that the Venetians must now present themselves as the great champions of science, to seize control, corrupt and ultimately destroy the scientific community from the inside, through Aristotelian formalism and sense certainty.

Sarpi sponsored and directed the career of Galileo Galilei, who was used for a counterattack against the Platonic method of Johannes Kepler.
The supposed founder of Physics, Isaac Newton’s main interest was alchemy. His sources were kooks like Elias Ashmole, the Rosicrucian leader of British speculative Freemasonry.


The following has more information on how the Venetians created Freemasonry in England.
In 1616, the Protestant-Anglican royal marriage of James I's daughter to the Elector of Palatine was the talk of England. For Venice, a significant counterweight to the Habsburgs.

Also in 1616, the first Rosicrucian tract - the "Fama'' - is written, calling for the formation of a Brotherhood of the Rosy Cross. It is not too distant from what Sarpi's friend, Francis Bacon, is calling for. Shortly thereafter, another Rosicrucian document - the "Confession'' - is published.
Both written in German and circulated in the territory of the Elector of Palatine.

This is followed by several other Rosicrucian documents, all claiming to have solved the riddle of the relationship between the microcosm and the macrocosm.
One of these books was written by Robert Fludd, who is attacked by Kepler as a mystic who uses numbers as a form of cabalistic symbolism.

The beginning of the Long Parliament and a series of meetings in England, in 1640, led to the creation of the British Royal Society. Robert Moray in Edinburgh in 1641 is the first recorded induction into the Freemasons, quickly followed by Elias Ashmole. Both Ashmole and Moray were founding members of the British Royal Society.
The other major explicitly Rosicrucian figure was Isaac Newton, who had copies of both the Fama and the Confessio in his library.

Historian Frances Yates quotes one De Quincey:

Freemasonry is neither more nor less than Rosicrucianism as modified by those who transplanted it in England, whence it was re-exported to the other countries of Europe.

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An announcement for one of the Freemasons meetings in 1676 reads:

To give notice that the Modern Green-ribboned Cabal, together with the ancient brotherhood of the Rosy Cross: the Hermetic Adepti and the company of Accepted Masons...

According to John Robinson. all of the original members of the Royal Society were Freemasons, with Rosicrucian elements.

Metaphorically Rosicrucians were Rose Cross men - men who used Bacon's discovery device (which has a compass design in the plays) to make the metaphoric voyage beyond the pillars of Hercules in search of the New World of the sciences.
Freemasonry society. In Bacon's time it was a true secret society.

The Temple of Solomon of Freemasonry is a model of the universe. The compass with the Rosicrucian rose is a metaphoric model of the world. Both are built into the First Folio, with its design of the 32 directions of the compass, and the 36 decans of the zodiac.


The Rosicrucian Fraternity was designed as a metaphoric complement to the Freemason Society (or vice versa).
There is a close affinity with the New Atlantis - the land of the Rosicrucians: Freemasonry-Rosecrucians-and-the-destruction-of-science