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    Teen Kills Himself After School Cop Lies to Him About Having to Register as Sex Offender

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    An Illinois teen kills himself rather than facing the prospect of being labeled as a sex offender; all for having consensual sex with another teen and the police officer attempting to scare him with false information.

    By Jack Burns - May 30, 2017

    Naperville, IL — The weekend before Corey Walgren dove off of a five-story parking garage, he confessed to his parents he’d had sex for the first time. Unfortunately for Corey, a 16-year-old Junior at Naperville North High School, he was never allowed to explore the joys of sex again before school and police officials decided they had to intervene in his personal life.

    A female classmate became aware of a consensual sexual encounter between another classmate, who was also 16, and Corey. Saying he’d played a recording of the sexual encounter for a group of his friends, the girl went to school officials to report the incident.

    A school administrator called Corey into an office where the school resource officer, a cop named Brett Heun, proceeded to interrogate Corey. Heun told Corey that being in possession of videos of a sexual nature involving minors is considered, under the law, child pornography, and that he might have to register as a sex offender. According to the Chicago Tribune;

    There, with a police officer and campus dean, Corey was questioned about possessing and possibly sharing “child pornography,” allegedly threatened that he’d be put on the state’s sex offender registry, then was left alone to wait for his mother.

    The threat of having to register as a sex offender must have terrified Corey, who would then be possibly labeled a pedophile by his peers. Even though the video recording was too dark to see any sex act take place, the cell phone did contain a file with audio of the sexual encounter.

    Police did not intend to pursue charges, records show, and they indicated they wanted to handle the matter in a way that ensured Corey understood the seriousness of his actions and how it affected his classmate.

    The officer then called Mrs. Walgren to come to the school to discuss the action the officer was going to take against Corey.

    Instead of waiting patiently for his mother to come, and possibly being humiliated by his sex acts that had come to light, the young man left the school afoot. He owned a vehicle, and it was parked at the school, but the distraught young man walked to town.

    After Mrs. Walgren arrived at school, she was surprised to find her son was nowhere to be found. Police asked her if Corey was suicidal — she said he wasn’t — but he was.

    Walking into downtown Naperville, Corey climbed the stairs of a five-story parking garage, and sat on the garage’s ledge, within eyesight of an officer whose attention was grabbed by the boy’s decision to sit there. But by the time the officer decided to park his patrol car in a nearby parking space, in an effort to keep an eye on the boy (whom he didn’t know had just walked out of his high school) Corey had already thrown himself to the ground.

    The boy was cared for by a doctor who was passing by, but even with the emergency medical attention he was given, he later died at the hospital. The honor student, hockey player, and bass fisherman took his own life.

    Walgren’s death is an indictment on a society so obsessed with security that it places armed officers of the law inside schools to supposedly serve and protect the student populations. Many times, those officers are directly responsible for arresting teens, giving many thousands of them criminal records for doing what kids have done for hundreds of years; questioning authorities, fighting in school, and creating disturbances.

    In the past, bold teachers and administrators would handle those situations in house, without the need of any law enforcement officials. That was then, this is now.

    Now those same officers who are sworn to protect and serve, often trample the rights of the students to enjoy civil liberties afforded to them by the Constitution. Who teenagers choose to have sex with is the business between those teens, and should be of no concern to the state, the school’s, and especially the police.

    The Walgren family is now suing the school district, as well as the police, for 5 million dollars, a million for each floor of the parking garage Corey passed on the way to his death. But the school, in a statement, says they’ve done nothing wrong. They wrote;

    At the outset of this incident, we worked to ensure a thorough and fair review of the facts, and involved the appropriate school and law enforcement officials,” the statement said. “Our main concern with any matter involving students is fairness, discretion and objectivity. The school district feels confident that we handled this issue appropriately and engaged the right officials pursuant to the protocols and procedures that govern student affairs.”

    It’s understandable the police wanted to question the teen about the sexual encounter on his phone. With so many pedophile teachers and adults in the community, maybe they wanted to know he wasn’t being abused by an adult.

    But, as Mrs. Walgren said, “I think they wanted to scare him straight…Instead, they scared him to death.”

    As TFTP has long contended, police have no business taking up residence in public schools. When police are involved in the daily lives of teenagers, bad things happen.

    Unfortunately, Corey’s story, as well as the hundreds of students in Colorado all suffered from a 21st Century dilemma; a clash of law, technology, youthful lusts, and life-changing regret.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



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    Don't blame the cop. Blame the kid. He clearly made one choice he was not ready to make, and recorded it, which was a choice he should never have made. He should have let a private matter stay private, but in his immaturity, he embarrassed himself and his partner. I'm sorry for his choices and his family's loss, but the cop has nothing to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Don't blame the cop. Blame the kid. He clearly made one choice he was not ready to make, and recorded it, which was a choice he should never have made. He should have let a private matter stay private, but in his immaturity, he embarrassed himself and his partner. I'm sorry for his choices and his family's loss, but the cop has nothing to do with it.
    The kop had everything to do with it!

    The kop culture we all endure is turning children into felons for mere childish behavior,...

    The rat your neighbor out mentality is going to destroy the last vestiges of independence and freedom that lurk in our kids.

    Shame on us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    The kop had everything to do with it!

    The kop culture we all endure is turning children into felons for mere childish behavior,...

    The rat your neighbor out mentality is going to destroy the last vestiges of independence and freedom that lurk in our kids.

    Shame on us!
    Yep. When I was a kid and the Park Ranger caught you boinking because you were on the Parkway in a place you thought was secluded and his strobe light lit up the car you were in like and Alien abduction, they sent you home to your parents.

    Not that this happened to me.


    In the old days the cops poured out your beer icing in the trunk. We do have a problem with everything we tend to do that might be less than moral having the greater possibility of it being a criminal act.
    Last edited by Todd; 05-30-2017 at 01:33 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Don't blame the cop. Blame the kid. He clearly made one choice he was not ready to make, and recorded it, which was a choice he should never have made. He should have let a private matter stay private, but in his immaturity, he embarrassed himself and his partner. I'm sorry for his choices and his family's loss, but the cop has nothing to do with it.
    The cop lied to this kid and told him that he would have to register as a sex offender... and you say the cop has nothing to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Don't blame the cop. Blame the kid. He clearly made one choice he was not ready to make, and recorded it, which was a choice he should never have made. He should have let a private matter stay private, but in his immaturity, he embarrassed himself and his partner. I'm sorry for his choices and his family's loss, but the cop has nothing to do with it.
    Second post you come into with a statist mentality. Here since '09 and have still not learned a damned thing.

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    "though the video recording was too dark to see any sex act take place"

    Wait. what's he doing with a recording of it in the first place??

    adios, mofo. Don't let the car door hit you on the way down.
    1. Don't lie.
    2. Don't cheat.
    3. Don't steal.
    4. Don't kill.
    5. Don't commit adultery.
    6. Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
    7. Honor your father and mother.
    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
    10. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

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  9. #8
    I'm supposed to feel sorry why?
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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    Todd, I really try to understand your bitterness. Not everything is the result of government and the police. This kid would still be here if he had the maturity to have sex and not brag to his friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Tod I really try to understand your bitterness. Not everything is the result of government and the police. This kid would still be here if he had the maturity to have sex and not brag to his friends.
    The kop threatening him was uncalled for, the other kid who ratted him/them out should never have been taught that such behavior was acceptable.

    And you and I as adults, we are to blame for letting kops into the schools and permitting such destructive behavior (rat on your peer) to be taught to children.

    Children don't have 'maturity' hell lots of chronological adults don't, but this child is dead because of folks who applaud this rat on your peers mentality. Not long ago kids screwing might raise the ire of one family or the other, even the priest or pastor but kops! This is new and it's wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    And you and I as adults, we are to blame for letting kops into the schools and permitting such destructive behavior (rat on your peer) to be taught to children.
    I blame @oyarde.
    1. Don't lie.
    2. Don't cheat.
    3. Don't steal.
    4. Don't kill.
    5. Don't commit adultery.
    6. Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
    7. Honor your father and mother.
    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
    10. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    I blame @oyarde.
    Not I, I've never seen oyarde stand up for rats or kops....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    I blame @oyarde.
    Never happen on my watch . In 1831 when Joe Napier arrived on the bank of the Dupage River ( Naperville , Ill) and put up a settlement that grew to 100 people in one year the Sauk should have gotten rid of them all before they fled to Ft Dearborn for protection ( Black Hawk war ) and built Ft Payne . Next thing you know there are so many dirty immigrants there they are killing one another and nobody even notices, April 26 of 1946 two trains collided killing 45 . Now the hospital and two school districts are three of the top five employers like many tax tick cities of 140k or more. If he was my kid he would have known the dangers of recording anything on a phone , talking to police and parking garages .
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Tod I really try to understand your bitterness. Not everything is the result of government and the police. This kid would still be here if he had the maturity to have sex and not brag to his friends.
    lol, so guys who kiss and tell deserve the death penalty, got it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    lol, so guys who kiss and tell deserve the death penalty, got it..
    The kid imposed his own sentence. Nobody made him jump. And this was a bit beyond kissing and telling, just so you know. I'm not generally a violent person, but if I was the girl in his video, the garage leap might have seemed a whole lot safer.

    I really am sorry for the family's loss, but if people are going to make choices, they have to take the consequences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I really am sorry for the family's loss
    You keep typing this like you understand what it means.

    Being sorry for something means you intend to work toward it not happening again.

    Yet you've stated multiple times that you're fundamentally OK with what happened and are have insinuated that you are not willing to find a way to prevent it.

    You keep saying it's not the cop's fault. I agree that the cop didn't ever lie to the kid and was telling him things that absolutely could have come true.

    But each one of those things would have been effected by that same cop. He wasn't threatening the kid with something someone else might have done: he was threatening him with things the cop was very likely planning to do.

    Anything else was something the kid could have recovered from. But you do not ever recover from being a sex offender. He had been just told, factually, by an officer of the law fully prepared to make it happen, that his life was as good as over.

    There is no possible way it wasn't the cop's fault.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.



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    If the kid had kept his mouth shut....

    As a libertarian, I believe we are responsible for our own choices. This kid made several bad ones. Don't blame anyone but him. He is not the victim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    If the kid had kept his mouth shut....

    As a libertarian, I believe we are responsible for our own choices. This kid made several bad ones. Don't blame anyone but him. He is not the victim.
    "Our choice" teaches kids to rat on each other, "Our choice" permits kops on school grounds, "Our choice" lets those kops threaten children and some of us refuse to accept our part in these behaviors...



    Kids in the 60's and 70's didn't keep their mouths shut..........

    Those of us who did were quite popular though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    If the kid had kept his mouth shut....

    As a libertarian, I believe we are responsible for our own choices. This kid made several bad ones. Don't blame anyone but him. He is not the victim.

    I'm not sure you understand the average thought process of a 16 year old. One dumb girl breaking up with you can seem like the end of the world. Part of being a kid is running your mouth. He was "kid". Get it?

    So how is it that you reached the conclusion that doing something stupid like filming your sex life and then bragging to your friends, that the consequence should be some bozo threatening you with a life long social stigma and criminality?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    I'm not sure you understand the average thought process of a 16 year old. One dumb girl breaking up with you can seem like the end of the world. Part of being a kid is running your mouth. He was "kid". Get it?

    So how is it that you reached the conclusion that doing something stupid like filming your sex life and then bragging to your friends, that the consequence should be some bozo threatening you with a life long social stigma and criminality?
    Hell, the cop probably threatened him and told him he was going to jail, after seeing movies and being in a culture that celebrates prison rape, the kid probably thought he was looking at a future of getting raped in prison for years. Its no surprise he took his own life. The cop shouldn't have been talking to him without his parents, at all!

  24. #21
    Anybody that doesn't think that kid deserves to spend eternity burning in the hellfires of damnation can get the hell out.
    1. Don't lie.
    2. Don't cheat.
    3. Don't steal.
    4. Don't kill.
    5. Don't commit adultery.
    6. Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
    7. Honor your father and mother.
    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
    10. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

    "For the love of money is the root of all evil..." -- I Timothy 6:10, KJV

  25. #22
    Nobody thinks that. He made bad choices and created his own consequences.
    #NashvilleStrong

    “I’m a doctor. That’s a baby.”~~~Dr. Manny Sethi

  26. #23
    The kid could have avoided the problem by keeping his mouth and his phone to himself.
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  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    The kid could have avoided the problem by keeping his mouth and his phone to himself.
    So you have no problem with kids under 18 being interrogated/interviewed by police without their parents present?



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    ^

    You're not getting it. He didn't kill himself because of the consequence of his friends telling on him and being made fun of and getting in trouble with his and her parents. He killed himself over fear of threat of being labeled a Pedo..... "criminality".
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    ^

    You're not getting it. He didn't kill himself because of the consequence of his friends telling on him and being made fun of and getting in trouble with his and her parents. He killed himself over fear of threat of being labeled a Pedo..... "criminality".
    I do get it. You all don't get it. He recorded himself having sex with a fellow student and broadcast it at school. There is little doubt about what he did. Had he not broadcast it at school it would not have gone where it did. His own choices landed him in the school office and with police. You cannot on one hand say at age 16 he has liberty to have sex and broadcast the recording and then say he is too young to be interrogated by school officials and police without his parents present. This is very inconsistent thinking. Somehow the law only applies when it suits you all. That's just crazy.

    Thank you for all the name calling, by the way. Liberty says I have the right to a point of view.
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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I do get it. You all don't get it. He recorded himself having sex with a fellow student and broadcast it at school. There is little doubt about what he did. Had he not broadcast it at school it would not have gone where it did. His own choices landed him in the school office and with police. You cannot on one hand say at age 16 he has liberty to have sex and broadcast the recording and then say he is too young to be interrogated by school officials and police without his parents present. This is very inconsistent thinking. Somehow the law only applies when it suits you all. That's just crazy.

    Thank you for all the name calling, by the way. Liberty says I have the right to a point of view.
    Using your logic, if a Jewish person was captured by the Nazis and sent to a concentration camp and gassed to death because they stole a loaf of bread, then they deserved it because they stole the loaf of bread and put themselves in that situation.

    Proportionality.

    Remember that the girl made the decision to have sex with a boy who recorded them having sex. Shouldn't she have maybe gotten to know him better before having sex with him so she would know that he had the type of character that might record them without her knowledge and share it with people? Does she not have any responsibility in this?

    It's like battered women - ya, I feel bad for them, they deserve help - but what the $#@! are they doing in relationships with guys like that in the first place? There are plenty of single guys who have been in relationships with women without ever being physical or violent, why are so many of them single and why are women in relationships with guys who beat them?
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  32. #28
    Which he could have avoided by not bragging to his friends.

    Nobody has even thought of the poor girl who had sex with him and then had it spread all around school.
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  33. #29
    That would not be a problem if he had not shown the video at school.
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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    That would not be a problem if he had not shown the video at school.
    Way to avoid the question. Do you or do you not think that cops should be able to interrogate or interview somebody under 18 without their parents present?
    Keep in mind, they may incriminate themselves.

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