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    Trump’s Cult Was Designed to Withstand This Current Media Onslaught

    Trump’s Cult Was Designed to Withstand This Current Media Onslaught and That’s What’s Happening
    by John Ziegler | 2:53 pm, May 20th, 2017


    This week, the media freak-out over nightly “bombshell” revelations regarding evidence of President Trump’s apparent malfeasance and general abject incompetence reached, perhaps prematurely, a 9.5 out of 10. It culminated with Friday’s story that Trump told a Russian spy, in the Oval Office, that he fired the FBI Director, who is a “real nut job,” because he was investigating their involvement in our election and that he had gotten rid of the problem.

    Within the last two weeks, there have been several stories about Trump which, in an era where the mainstream news media wasn’t coming off of eight years of Obama cheerleading and was still remotely trusted by Republicans, would have quickly forced the GOP to abandon this president and set the stage for his resignation. This latest disclosure, basically verified by the White House, certainly should qualify as one of those, if not the most damaging of the entire insane-making bunch.

    However, mostly because every story so far requires faith in the news media, nothing we have learned so far is going to turn Trump’s base of support against him. There is still no sign that his dismal approval ratings will dip below the high 30s, and as long as that is the case, he will remain in office, at least until Democrats take over both chambers of Congress, or he loses reelection.

    I have often referred to Trump’s most ardent supporters as being part of a cult. I have not used this term lightly or figuratively. It is my belief that, having dealt with many of these people online for almost two years now, they fit every definition of literally being part of a cult, as does Trump as their leader.

    In fact, on Twitter, I have even come up with the hashtag of #Cult45 to describe Trump’s biggest fans. This is a nod to him being our 45th president and the old Billy Dee Williams TV commercial for beer whose famous catchphrase I imagine being transformed into, “Cult 45… they will believe him EVERY time.”

    One of the hallmarks of a cult, of course, is that they are impervious to facts, logic, or reason when it comes to being convinced that they have been duped. Because they are completely invested in having been right in joining the cult, it is nearly impossible to persuade them that they were wrong, at least until they suffer very real consequences directly due to their decision. This is why it is a universal truth about humanity that it is FAR easier to dupe someone than to convince them that they have been duped.

    Trump himself seems to inherently understand this phenomenon and even famously joked about his supporters sticking within him even if he publicly shot someone (and that was BEFORE he slayed the wicked witch Hillary Clinton, thus buying him even more blind loyalty on the cult’s part). Just last night, CNN’s Anderson Cooper, clearly frustrated by all of this, told Trump sycophant Jeffery Lord that he would defend Trump even if he took a “dump” on his desk, which, interestingly, Lord himself didn’t even bother to deny, mostly because it is so obviously true.

    Trump has also masterfully cultivated the resilience of his cult by training them to be both prepped for the coming media onslaught against him, and to disregard anything which sounds bad as simply being “fake news” (even when his own people don’t even bother to deny the story!). Here he has taken a page right about of the Scientology playbook (there are a lot of similarities between Trump and Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard) which prevents their followers from getting outside news about them and prepares them that negative publicity is just another sign that nefarious forces are trying to destroy them because of all the good that they are doing.

    This might be the number one element of Trumpsanity which the news media simply doesn’t understand. The more over-the-top they are in their negative coverage of Trump the more his cult completely tunes out any information not sanctioned by a “state-run” media organ, and the more they are convinced that Trump must be doing something right because otherwise the bad guys wouldn’t seem so desperate to destroy him.

    Ironically, the news media, like a father trying to get his teenage daughter to stop dating that bad boy, would be far more effective in diminishing Trump’s support if they praised him for becoming such a mainstream/establishment/harmless guy.

    Obviously, one of the keys for Trump to maintain the health of his cult is that he has his own “state-run” media which can be used to give any cult members who might start to ask questions more than enough fodder with which to rationalize their position. So a long as the largest and most powerful of those outlets, Fox News, continues to pretend that these stories don’t really exist, or that completely bullcrap conspiracy theories about Seth Rich are the real explanation of the Russian hacking, and Drudge, Breitbart, and talk radio continue the same charade, then nothing dramatic is going to change.

    Interestingly, one of the most dangerous things which happened to Trump this week had nothing directly to do with Russia. Fox News, while it was mostly playing pretend in their alternate universe, got its ass kicked by both MSNBC and CNN. If this trend continues, Fox would eventually be forced to start covering the news in a semi-serious and credible fashion. If that were to occur, it might mark the beginning of the end for Trump, as he can’t afford to lose another chunk of his support which I would describe as “Cult 45-Lite.”

    This is why whether James Comey really testifies publicly and openly in the coming weeks (I still have my doubts that is really going to happen) is so incredibly important. If he does, and it is as compelling as would be expected (though it is important to point out that expectations would be extremely and perhaps unrealistically high thanks to all the media’s hysteria), then Fox will have no choice but to reengage with reality.

    However, if the Comey testimony doesn’t happen in public anytime soon, then this story will, believe it or not, finally slowly fade as the leaks presumably quickly dry up in the heat of the summer. Under that scenario, Fox and the rest of the “conservative” media can safely continue to give the cult what they really want by acting like none of this really happened, or isn’t really that important/bad if it did.
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    What's that about Seth Rich?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunklocoempire View Post
    What's that about Seth Rich?
    It's a complete bullcrap. It has been debunked by ...... somebody or something a long time ago.

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    What a $#@!ing tool, I'm so glad the MSM is dying.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    What a $#@!ing tool, I'm so glad the MSM is dying.
    Sounds like you have fallen victim to the Trump Cult narrative. The MSM is getting record ratings and even print media like the "failing" New York Times are enjoying record numbers of new subscribers. They are simply giving their customers what they want.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Sounds like you have fallen victim to the Trump Cult narrative. The MSM is getting record ratings and even print media like the "failing" New York Times are enjoying record numbers of new subscribers. They are simply giving their customers what they want.
    WWE?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Fox News’ ratings slide as Americans’ mistrust of mainstream media grows

    Published time: 24 May, 2017 21:32

    Nearly two-thirds of US voters believe that the mainstream media is producing fake news, according to a new poll. Many also believe that fake news is purposely published to push an agenda. Fox News appears to be hurt the most by viewers’ mistrust.

    Across the political spectrum, 65 percent of voters believe there is a lot of fake news in the mainstream media, including 80 percent of Republicans, 60 percent of independents and 53 percent of Democrats, according to the latest Harvard-Harris poll provided exclusively to The Hill. In total, 84 percent of voters said it is hard to know what news to believe online.

    Those numbers have increased since the end of March, when six in 10 Americans believed the mainstream media report fake news regularly or occasionally, with 54 percent thinking that online news websites report fake stories on purpose in order to push an agenda, according to a Monmouth University poll. A whopping 80 percent of respondents believed that online outlets report fake news regularly or occasionally.
    60% of Americans believe MSM reports fake news – poll https://t.co/yeKQqXabAh
    — RT (@RT_com) March 30, 2017


    The March poll also found that Republicans (79 percent) were most likely to say that major news outlets transmit fake news stories, compared to 66 percent of Independents and 43 percent of Democrats. Of those, Republicans were also more likely to say that major news sources reported fake news deliberately, rather than by mistake or due to poor fact checking.
    https://www.rt.com/usa/389626-fox-ratings-msm-trust/
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Sounds like you have fallen victim to the Trump Cult narrative. The MSM is getting record ratings and even print media like the "failing" New York Times are enjoying record numbers of new subscribers. They are simply giving their customers what they want.
    Do not be so modest. You are also playing a part in this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    They are simply giving their customers what we want.
    Indeed! And what you deserve!

    This is the future of American "Journalism(TM)":

    http://www.upworthy.com/

    A toast to The Future!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    They are simply giving their customers what they want.
    That's my line! - Jerry Springer

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    Quote Originally Posted by helmuth_hubener View Post
    Indeed! And what you deserve!

    This is the future of American "Journalism(TM)":

    http://www.upworthy.com/

    A toast to The Future!
    They are performance artists

    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    They are performance artists

    Yep, they are pretending to be real journalists..

    Whereas Alex Jones is a real journalist who occasionally engages in performance art to enhance his journalism.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Yep, they are pretending to be real journalists..

    Whereas Alex Jones is a real journalist who occasionally engages in performance art to enhance his journalism.
    Real journalists are more consistent. They never go out of character.



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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Trump is a disappointment, but the status quo needs to wither and die. That's the only 'cult' I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Real journalists are more consistent. They never go out of character.
    ^Glenn Greenwald
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    Ironically, the news media, like a father trying to get his teenage daughter to stop dating that bad boy, would be far more effective in diminishing Trump’s support if they praised him for becoming such a mainstream/establishment/harmless guy.
    So this guy's complaint is not that the MSM are paternalistically agenda-driven manipulators of public opinion.

    Rather, it's that they are incompetent paternalistically agenda-driven manipulators of public opinion ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    So this guy's complaint is not that the MSM are paternalistic manipulators, but rather that they are incompetent paternalistic manipulators ...
    There's a profit motive involved.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
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