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    Simplest: Take a piece of paper. Poke a hole in it with a pin. Look at the shadow. (Do not look directly at the sun).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Simplest: Take a piece of paper. Poke a hole in it with a pin. Look at the shadow. (Do not look directly at the sun).
    Who wants to look at a shadow? I prefer to wear like 5 or 6 pairs of sunglasses.

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    Wal Marx Eclipse Glasses for $15

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Solar-Ecl...&wl13=&veh=sem

    Welder's glass in handheld frame. $19

    https://www.amazon.com/Welders-Glass.../dp/B007O10Z80

    Or just don your welder's hood if you have one.

    https://www.amazon.com/Hobart-770286...welding+helmet
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 05-25-2017 at 12:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Wal Marx Eclipse Glasses for $15

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Solar-Ecl...&wl13=&veh=sem

    Welder's glass in handheld frame. $19

    https://www.amazon.com/Welders-Glass.../dp/B007O10Z80

    Or just don your welder's hood if you have one.

    https://www.amazon.com/Hobart-770286...welding+helmet

    Walmart eclipse glasses? Why not just use one of the patrons?
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    http://www.wbir.com/news/local/6-mon...ipse/410152333

    If you're planning on coming by, let me know... It's pretty much where I live.

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    Great eclipse info. I'm so excited I may throw an eclipse party.

    Total Solar Eclipse 2017: When, Where and How to See It (Safely)

    On Aug. 21, 2017, people across the United States will see the sun disappear behind the moon, turning daylight into twilight, causing the temperature drop rapidly and revealing massive streamers of light streaking through the sky around the silhouette of the moon. On that day, America will fall under the path of a total solar eclipse .

    The so-called Great American Total Solar Eclipse will darken skies all the way from Oregon to South Carolina, along a stretch of land about 70 miles (113 kilometers) wide. People who descend upon this "path of totality" for the big event are in for an unforgettable experience.


    Here is Space.com's complete guide to the 2017 total solar eclipse. It includes information about where and when to see it, how long it lasts, what you can expect to see, and how to plan ahead to ensure you get the most out of this incredible experience.




    REMEMBER: Looking directly at the sun, even when it is partially covered by the moon, can cause serious eye damage or blindness. NEVER look at a partial solar eclipse without proper eye protection . See our complete guide to find out how to view the eclipse safely.

    ...
    https://www.space.com/33797-total-so...017-guide.html
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    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    It's hard to find a hotel room or rent a car anywhere in the path. People coming from across the globe for the experience.

    I'd be reluctant to gamble so much - it could be cloudy that day.
    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




    Reprinted from http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/ [Nov. 29, 2011]

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    Nashville is one of the prime viewing locations. It should be happening here just before I go to work. I have good viewing from my yard.
    Last edited by euphemia; 07-29-2017 at 10:42 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Wal Marx Eclipse Glasses for $15

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Solar-Ecl...&wl13=&veh=sem

    Welder's glass in handheld frame. $19

    https://www.amazon.com/Welders-Glass.../dp/B007O10Z80

    Or just don your welder's hood if you have one.

    https://www.amazon.com/Hobart-770286...welding+helmet
    Oh good idea! I have one here in the store. Price just went up!
    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




    Reprinted from http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/ [Nov. 29, 2011]

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Nashville is one of the prime viewing locations. I will be working when it happens, but maybe I will get a peek.
    Clayton, Ga is also a prime spot. I'm considering a little drive up there. It's close to two hours from my house but I wonder what traffic's going to be like.

    From the op link...

    Eclipse Begins Totality Begins Totality Ends Eclipse Ends
    Madras, OR 09:06 a.m. 10:19 a.m. 10:21 a.m. 11:41 a.m. PDT
    Idaho Falls, ID 10:15 a.m. 11:33 a.m. 11:34 a.m. 12:58 p.m. MDT
    Casper, WY 10:22 a.m. 11:42 a.m. 11:45 a.m. 01:09 p.m. MDT
    Lincoln, NE 11:37 a.m. 01:02 p.m. 01:04 p.m. 02:29 p.m. CDT
    Jefferson City, MO 11:46 a.m. 01:13 p.m. 01:15 p.m. 02:41 p.m. CDT
    Carbondale, IL 11:52 a.m. 01:20 p.m. 01:22 p.m. 02:47 p.m. CDT
    Paducah, KY 11:54 a.m. 01:22 p.m. 01:24 p.m. 02:49 p.m. CDT
    Nashville, TN 11:58 a.m. 01:27 p.m. 01:29 p.m. 02:54 p.m. CDT
    Clayton, GA 01:06 p.m. 02:35 p.m. 02:38 p.m. 04:01 p.m. EDT
    Columbia, SC 01:03 p.m. 02:41 p.m. 02:44 p.m. 04:06 p.m. EDT
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    It's hard to find a hotel room or rent a car anywhere in the path. People coming from across the globe for the experience.

    I'd be reluctant to gamble so much - it could be cloudy that day.

    I hope they understand the consequences for trespassing in Clayton, GA.



    I also hope they know banjo music should be considered a warning...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Dang it.

    I duped on your thread. Same link, too.

    I reported myself to the proper authorities.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...lipse-Aug-21st
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    They disposable eclipse glasses at Kroger for 1.99 and libraries are giving them them away.

    Here are the GA locations but you can probably google it for your state. It said they're giving them out all over the country.


    Here's where you can get FREE glasses for the Total Solar Eclipse

    More than 2 million pairs of eclipse glasses are being distributed for free at public libraries throughout the U.S. for the rare total solar eclipse in August.

    ...

    Several Georgia libraries will be distributing safe eclipse glasses with scratch-resistant, filtered polymer lenses for the event.

    Here is a full list of participating libraries in metro Atlanta (*NOTE: We recommend you call ahead before going to pick up your glasses):

    Atlanta-Fulton Public Library System

    One Margaret Mitchell Square NW

    Mechanisville branch

    400 Formwalks St. SW

    South Fulton Library (Union City)

    4055 Flat Shoals Road

    COBB COUNTY

    Gritters Library (Marietta)

    880 Shaw Park Road

    Smyrna Library

    100 Village Green Circle

    Switzer Library (Marietta)

    266 Roswell St NE

    Vinings branch

    4290 Paces Ferry Rd SE

    NORTH FULTON COUNTY

    Alpharetta Library
    10 Park Plaza

    East Roswell Library
    2301 Holcomb Bridge Road

    Milton Library

    855 Mayfield Rd

    Roswell Library

    115 Norcross Street

    DEKALB COUNTY

    DeKalb County Public Library

    215 Sycamore St

    Salem-Panola

    5137 Salem Rd

    GWINNETT COUNTY

    (A limited number of glasses will be available on the day of Total Eclipse programs at participating branches. CLICK HERE to find upcoming programs.)

    Grayson branch

    700 Grayson Pkwy

    Gwinnett County Public Library

    6025 Buford Hwy

    Hamilton Mill branch

    3690 Braselton Hwy

    Lawrenceville branch

    1001 Lawrenceville Highway

    Snellville branch

    2740 Lenora Church Road

    Suwanee branch

    361 Main St

    If you do not see your local library on the list, you can simply reach out and ask if they will be offering free glasses. For a full list of Georgia libraries, use this map.
    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/loca...ipse/552002938
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Experts offer warnings as fake eclipse glasses flood the market

    ATLANTA -- As businesses around the United States find different ways to cash-in on the upcoming total solar eclipse, experts are warning that not all eclipse glasses being sold are what they seem.

    The American Astronomical Society reports that sky-watchers need to be mindful of the glasses that are now flooding the market since not all will protect human eyes from the effects of the celestial event.

    "We used to say that you should look for evidence that they comply with the ISO 12312-2 international safety standard for filters for direct viewing of the Sun," the organization posted on its website. "But now the marketplace is being flooded by counterfeit eclipse glasses that are labeled as if they're ISO-compliant when in fact they are not."

    That means that even the ones that are marked as compliant could be fake. Viewers who end up with fake glasses could run the risk of getting a condition known as "eclipse blindness" or serious damage to the retina.

    Read more:


    "Filters that are ISO 12312-2 compliant not only reduce visible sunlight to safe and comfortable levels but also block solar UV and IR radiation," officials said.

    As a precaution, both the Federal Trade Commission and the American Astronomical Society recommend that glasses be purchased directly from the companies verified to meet the standard.

    Only five of those exist - American Paper Optics, Baader Planetarium (AstroSolar Silver/Gold film only), Rainbow Symphony, Thousand Oaks Optical and TSE 17.

    If you decide to buy eclipse glasses elsewhere, there are ways to spot a fake. For one, the AAS reports that these glasses will only allow in light from the sun. So if you can see household light, they won't protect you. The filters are also designed to let through enough light to view the event comfortably. So if it seems too bright, it probably is.

    They also recommend that you avoid some of the more recent homemade alternatives that are popping up online.

    draft

    "Dark sunglasses (or multiple pairs of sunglasses), neutral density or polarizing filters (such as those made for camera lenses), smoked glass, exposed film, 'space blankets,' potato-chip bags, DVDs, and any other materials you may have heard about for solar viewing are not safe," the organization posted.

    They pointed out that even if they may dim the effects of the Sun, they don't necessarily protect the eyes from other parts of the electromagnetic spectrum.

    "While enjoying a 'comfortable' view of the 'dim' Sun, solar infrared radiation could be cooking your retinas. And you wouldn't know till later because your retinas don't have pain receptors," the organization states.

    The one "homemade" viewers that might work are welding filters - but even then only those at shades of 12, 13 or 14 which is much darker than what most welders actually use.

    The good news with getting legitimate certified eclipse glasses is that the latest standard leaves behind some of the precautions that existed with older ones.

    If they are ISO 12312-2 compliant, they can be reused - even after three years - as long as they aren't scratched or damaged. They also allow viewers to look at the sun for an unlimited amount of time. Previous glasses warned that users could only view the sun for 3 minutes at a time.

    How to make a SAFE eclipse viewer



    ...
    http://www.11alive.com/news/eclipse/...rket/461069272
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    "Dark sunglasses (or multiple pairs of sunglasses), neutral density or polarizing filters (such as those made for camera lenses), smoked glass, exposed film, 'space blankets,' potato-chip bags, DVDs, and any other materials you may have heard about for solar viewing are not safe," the organization posted.
    I literally had like 5 or 6 pairs of sunglasses when I did it, I don't recommend doing it with any less, and you probably shouldn't stare at it for more than a few seconds anyway but my vision was not affected.
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    You can sit in my yard. I'll serve you some sweet tea.
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    some weird shadow effects during eclipse... https://petapixel.com/2012/05/21/cre...solar-eclipse/


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    Those maps of eclipse’s path? ‘Wrong,’ experts say.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article166457627.html
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Amazon is offering refunds after selling fake eclipse glasses — here's how to tell if yours are safe

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amazon-offering-refunds-selling-fake-150450530.html
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    I'm like probably 60ish miles from "prime location" I'm not going to go anywhere though, traffic bound to be stupid. Damn tourists always coming here every 25 years!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulIsGreat View Post
    I'm like probably 60ish miles from "prime location" I'm not going to go anywhere though, traffic bound to be stupid. Damn tourists always coming here every 25 years!!
    I'll be starting off from the middle of it about 10 AM, and driving away from it pretty constantly after that, all in the name of employment...
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    Traffic is already bad going to N GA. I decided I'm close enough.



    ...
    Johnson said local and state agencies have spent more than a year collaborating on strategies to keep traffic moving and keep people safe.

    “There’s one way up there and there’s one way down there, so we’re estimating there’s going to be some major delays on your way up and down,” said Katie Strickland with the Georgia Department on Transportation.

    ...

    Channel 2's Justin Wilfon spoke with a woman who drove from Louisiana to North Georgia in hopes of finding the perfect spot to see the eclipse.

    "We saw it as an opportunity to bring a bunch of our friends and their kids up to see the eclipse," Sarah Riggs said.

    Wilfon also spoke to a man who said his father drove up from Florida and sat in traffic on I-85 for two hours.

    "It wasn't much fun for him. He was pretty aggravated by the time he got here," Tyler Tetley said.

    ....
    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/depu...ipse/594881923
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    I predict Atlanta traffic is going to be a mess Monday. Everything in N Ga is booked and I bet most of those folks will head home Monday after the eclipse just in time to hit 85/75/285 for Atlanta's already $#@!ed up rush hour.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    A friend of mine had an auto accident. SHe had rental car coverage on her policy, but she's in Boise and there are simply no cars to be had. Another woman, a customer in my store, said she owns a summer home in Portland, and she was offered $3000 to rent it for a week. (She declined.)

    I read that Hertz cancelled thousands of car reservations along the path of the eclipse, allegedly so they could rebook at higher rates. :O

    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




    Reprinted from http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/ [Nov. 29, 2011]

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    Looking forward to seeing how my beehives react.

    XNN
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    A friend of mine had an auto accident. SHe had rental car coverage on her policy, but she's in Boise and there are simply no cars to be had. Another woman, a customer in my store, said she owns a summer home in Portland, and she was offered $3000 to rent it for a week. (She declined.)

    I read that Hertz cancelled thousands of car reservations along the path of the eclipse, allegedly so they could rebook at higher rates. :O
    Oh, wow. Pretty $#@!ty and not very forward thinking of Hertz if the reservation story is legit. I probably would've taken the money and thrown in some glasses for an extra grand.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XNavyNuke View Post
    Looking forward to seeing how my beehives react.

    XNN
    I didn't even think about how wildlife would react. I don't have a hive but I have a ton of bees around my pool. I planted a bunch of butterfly bushes and not only do they attract butterflies but the bees love them. I'll be watching from my deck and I'm going to try to remember to keep my eye on them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Eclipse countdown. I can't get this song out of my head.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Last time, I noticed what was fun to look at was all the spots on the ground where the sun was shining through the leaves of the trees, you could see the eclipse in them.

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