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    Exclamation Intel agency secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for years

    Obama intel agency secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for years

    by John Solomon and Sara Carter

    http://circa.com/politics/barack-oba...g-on-americans

    May 24, 2017

    The National Security Agency under former President Barack Obama routinely violated American privacy protections while scouring through overseas intercepts and failed to disclose the extent of the problems until the final days before Donald Trump was elected president last fall, according to once top-secret documents that chronicle some of the most serious constitutional abuses to date by the U.S. intelligence community.

    More than 5 percent, or one out of every 20 searches seeking upstream Internet data on Americans inside the NSA’s so-called Section 702 database violated the safeguards Obama and his intelligence chiefs vowed to follow in 2011, according to one classified internal report reviewed by Circa.

    The Obama administration self-disclosed the problems at a closed-door hearing Oct. 26 before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that set off alarm. Trump was elected less than two weeks later.
    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11



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    Rand talked about this today:

    Sen. Rand Paul on "Fox & Friends" - May 24, 2017
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    ... all in the name of "security".

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    some secret.. haven't most of us (RPf-ers) pretty much known this for at least a decade?
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    If you think it is has changed you have fallen for the con.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    If you think it is has changed you have fallen for the con.
    Indeed

    ...and if you think it started with the Obama administration, you're naive.

    They've been doing this since the telegram.

    ...how do you think J. Edgar acquired his dossiers?

    They've just been getting caught lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Indeed

    ...and if you think it started with the Obama administration, you're naive.

    They've been doing this since the telegram.

    ...how do you think J. Edgar acquired his dossiers?

    They've just been getting caught lately.
    Before that they developed ways to open envelopes and re-close them.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    ... all in the name of "security".
    Yeah, government security.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Before that they developed ways to open envelopes and re-close them.
    True. Less efficient, but same principle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Indeed

    ...and if you think it started with the Obama administration, you're naive.

    They've been doing this since the telegram.

    ...how do you think J. Edgar acquired his dossiers?

    They've just been getting caught lately.
    On cue. Just like C-PUD. Obama didn't start it...etc. now if something is done while Trump is Chief Executive, OMG!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    On cue. Just like C-PUD. Obama didn't start it...etc. now if something is done while Trump is Chief Executive, OMG!
    What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    On cue. Just like C-PUD. Obama didn't start it...etc. now if something is done while Trump is Chief Executive, OMG!
    He wasn't giving Obummer a pass, This stuff goes way back.
    And it isn't going to stop any time soon.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    It seems to me that @Danke isn't so much concerned about Obama getting a pass (which no one here is giving him)...

    ...than about Trump getting one (which Danke apparently thinks Trump deserves).

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    It seems to me that @Danke isn't so much concerned about Obama getting a pass (which no one here is giving him)...



    ...than about Trump getting one (which Danke apparently thinks Trump deserves).

    Not at all, just looking for consistency from you liberals that are actually pretenders. I was born at night, but it wasn't last night, been here since summer of 2007, joined in Nov. of that year.
    Last edited by Danke; 05-24-2017 at 08:50 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    On cue. Just like C-PUD. Obama didn't start it...etc. now if something is done while Trump is Chief Executive, OMG!
    What kind of IDIOT neg reps me for having a different opinion about r3v 3.0
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Not at all, just looking for consistency from you liberals that are actually pretenders. I was born at night, but it wasn't last night, been here since summer of 2007, joined in Nov. of that year.
    It is a liberal position to criticize the President for violating the 4th amendment?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    On cue. Just like C-PUD. Obama didn't start it...etc. now if something is done while Trump is Chief Executive, OMG!
    That is precisely why I edited "Obama" out of headline, to try and prevent that.

    We are all well aware, it is every post war administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    What kind of IDIOT neg reps me for having a different opinion about r3v 3.0
    So now I'm an IDIOT? Kinda proved my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    It is a liberal position to criticize the President for violating the 4th amendment?
    Consistency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opal View Post
    some secret.. haven't most of us (RPf-ers) pretty much known this for at least a decade?
    DecadeS.

    We are a tiny minority of kooks.

    Yes, we are well aware of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    So now I'm an IDIOT? Kinda proved my point.
    What Point.

    Neg rep is not for honest differences of opinion about another site member's intent.

    If the shoe fits wear it IDIOT.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    What Point.

    Neg rep is not for honest differences of opinion about another site member's intent.

    If the shoe fits wear it IDIOT.
    See, you don't get it, so now you are an "IDIOT".

    Expect more incoming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Consistency.
    I have nearly 10,000 posts here on RPF.

    Find me one where I praise Obama.

    I'll wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    I have nearly 10,000 posts here on RPF.

    Find me one where I am praise Obama.

    I'll wait.
    Praise? Lol.

    even C-PUD doesn't do that.

    How about being as critical every time your hero did something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    See, you don't get it, so now you are an "IDIOT".

    Expect more incoming.
    "Never argue with an IDIOT he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience" is how the quote goes.
    I do not concede to being beaten, and I am going to quit while it is still obvious who is the IDIOT.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Praise? Lol.

    even C-PUD doesn't do that.

    How about being as critical every time your hero did something?


    One doesn't spend time insulting pigs at a synagogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post


    One doesn't spend time insulting pigs at a synagogue.
    What is this post trying to show?
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    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    What is this post trying to show?
    That it's ridiculous to chastise a member of RPF for not posting criticism of someone who all members of RPF already hate.

    ..."BREAKING: Satan's bad." ...interesting thread, no?

    As opposed to posting criticism of equally objectionable persons for whom some members of RPF have deeply misplaced affection.

    ...and have been posting about lovingly on an hourly basis, since last summer.

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    CORRECTION: I said the forum's been flooded with Trumphumping since last summer.

    FALSE, ...it was the summer before last, 2015, right after Trump announced.

    God damn this bull$#@! has been going on for a long time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    What is this post trying to show?
    I think the lines prove that Alex Jones is really bill cooper with a new skin suit.

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