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  1. #31
    Lord have mercy on those who were killed and wounded by this cowardly act of evil, and give comfort and hope to their loved ones who are suffering tonight.
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I suspect Methodist involvement.
    Nah, it's them damn Amish again.



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    I feel for the victims but I don't believe but maybe 10% of what I'm hearing (that's my standard for the lying news-no more than 10% can be true... the problem is determining what the 10% is...)
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I suspect Methodist involvement.
    Nah , I am going to go way out on a limb and scratch the Methodists , Menonites , Lutherans , Boy Scouts and the Amish .
    Do something Danke

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    Lord have mercy on those who were killed and wounded by this cowardly act of evil, and give comfort and hope to their loved ones who are suffering tonight.
    Thank you TER .
    Do something Danke

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Nah, it's them damn Amish again.
    The funny part is that the mastermind of this attack probably goes to the sort of church that is familiar to you.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    UK has been out of Iraq/Afghan wars for years and did not join war in Syria and only offered verbal support for US mission there.
    That's not what I've heard...

    UK sends more troops to Iraq to fight ISIS with more than 1,000 now in region

    It is the biggest figure since our withdrawal from the country nearly seven years ago and signals an escalation in the fight against terror there

    Dozens more British troops are being sent to Iraq to help a massive push to drive out Islamic State, boosting the UK’s force in the region to more than 1,000.

    It is the most UK military personnel fighting ISIS in the Middle East since our withdrawal from Iraq nearly seven years ago and signals an escalation in the fight against terror in Iraq.

    In addition as many as 200 British special forces troops, including the SAS, Special Boat Service and Special Reconnaissamce Regiment, are actually fighting ISIS on the ground in Iraq and neighboring Syria.

    For months British forces have been preparing Iraqi soldiers for a Spring offensive against ISIS, hoping to drive them out of key cities Fallujah and Mosul.

    Our RAF pilots flying strike missions against ISIS across Iraq and Syria have killed scores of ISIS gunmen and destroyed many terrorist facilities.

    Defence Secretary Michael Fallon said: “We’ve seen solid progress against Daesh in Iraq in recent months.

    “Now is the time to step up our training of Iraqi Forces, as they prepare for operations in key cities such as Fallujah and Mosul.

    “Along with the trebling of UK air strikes, this underlines the crucial role our armed forces are playing in the fight against Daesh.”

    It has also emerged that just in the past week the RAF’s Tornado, Typhoon jets and unmanned drones have had a string of devastating successes against ISIS.

    Royal Air Force aircraft, flying as part of the global coalition against Daesh, have struck further terrorist targets in support of the Iraqi ground forces.

    On Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday the RAF crews smashed ISIS positions as they came to rescue of Kurdish ground forces fighting the terror network.

    On Wednesday a formation of two man Tornados and one man Typhoons conducted four attacks in northern and western Iraq, including amassive-scale strike of bunker-buster bombs on another fortified former village.

    And the following day the RAF aces destroyed a large ISIS weapons cache and several fortified ISIS positions.

    Elsewhere in Iraq and Syria the British warplanes flying from Cyprus destroyed machine gun nests, bunkers, checkpoints, vehicles and ISIS barracks.

    The RAF has ten Reaper unmanned planes, eight Tornados and eight Typhoons striking ISIS day and night across Iraq and Syria.
    ...
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...s-iraq-7542634
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  10. #38
    1 year ago


    Police to stage huge terror training exercise involving 800 volunteers at the Trafford Centre


    A mock terror strike will be mounted at the shopping mall from midnight on Monday to help police deal with major incident
    Updated22:06, 9 MAY 2016
    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....entre-11302076


    Terror training exercise staged at Trafford Centre

    Exercise at Manchester shopping centre also included masked gunman as part of training for Paris or Brussels-style assault
    Tuesday 10 May 2016 04.51 EDT
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ack-manchester


    How to simulate a terrorist atrocity

    This week police and emergency services staged a bomb and gun attack in the Trafford Centre shopping mall in Manchester to test their preparedness. From the gory makeup to the actors’ instructions, this is how they did it
    Friday 13 May 2016 13.37 EDT
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...nchester-drill



    Police apologise for 'Allahu Akbar' use in mock Manchester attack

    Greater Manchester police say it was unacceptable to use religious phrase immediately before fake suicide bombing
    Tuesday 10 May 2016 09.05 EDT
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...chester-attack
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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    Lord have mercy on those who were killed and wounded by this cowardly act of evil, and give comfort and hope to their loved ones who are suffering tonight.
    yes.....amen

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  14. #41
    Ariana is OK.
    Pfizer Macht Frei!

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  16. #43
    It gets even more tragic:

    Ariana Grande has reportedly suspended her world tour following the deadly attack at her Manchester concert

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/breaking-a...075900712.html
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  17. #44
    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    ROFL This is as almost bad as 'they hate us for our freedoms.'

    "White Brits are to blame for the #ManchesterArena explosion. This is what you get for vilifying brown people and racist immigration policies"
    "You'd better let more of us in, all of us in, otherwise we'll butcher even more of you in even more terrorist attacks. You wouldn't want to.... "radicalize" us... would you?"

    Yes, Au, I agree it's ridiculous that anyone treats this line of transparent and disgusting blackmail as a valid argument.

    I am not, however, exactly Rolling On The Floor.




  19. #46
    Are we ready to stop passively retreating yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by helmuth_hubener View Post
    It is a retreating maneuver. Just as is the constant "white flight" of decent Americans fleeing ever further and further from the ruined husks of the cities they built, abandoning them to their hopeless fate.

    At some point, we need to stop retreating, turn around, and start taking it all back. No mercy.
    What percentage of our population do you think will need to be butchered before we stand up as men again and re-take the countries we once built? Any odds-makers lurking? Just another ten thousand? Or a hundred thousand? Millions? 50%? 70%? Step right up. Place your bet.

  20. #47
    Was this done by Thatcher's old friends or Donald's new friends?



    The great thing about these attacks is that the Westerners can't blame Iran or Syria for them. They will just give more arms to the Saudis instead.

    Hopefully the Iranians this time don't do a stupid candlelight vigil and hold a 'told-ya-so' celebration instead.
    Last edited by ExPatPaki; 05-23-2017 at 08:36 AM.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Ariana is OK.
    Did you take her out for drinks ?
    Do something Danke



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    It gets even more tragic:

    Ariana Grande has reportedly suspended her world tour following the deadly attack at her Manchester concert

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/breaking-a...075900712.html
    I hope you did not have a bundle tied up in tickets to scalp .
    Do something Danke

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by helmuth_hubener View Post
    Are we ready to stop passively retreating yet?



    What percentage of our population do you think will need to be butchered before we stand up as men again and re-take the countries we once built? Any odds-makers lurking? Just another ten thousand? Or a hundred thousand? Millions? 50%? 70%? Step right up. Place your bet.
    I don't think we got the will.

    100%

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by ExPatPaki View Post
    Was this done by Thatcher's old friends or Donald's new friends?



    The great thing about these attacks is that the Westerners can't blame Iran or Syria for them. They will just give more arms to the Saudis instead.

    Hopefully the Iranians this time don't do a stupid candlelight vigil and hold a 'told-ya-so' celebration instead.
    Hard to tell this early , I would not expect this from the Persians or any real , ordinary Syrians . Last I heard the islamic state claimed it but I dunno if that is true or not because they may say so anyway , they do not come across as honest . So if it really was then basically we can say it was an act by the caliphate which is also all anyone can ever expect from a caliphate .
    Do something Danke

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Ariana is OK.
    Am I weird that I have no $#@!ing clue who this person is?

    Or would it be weird that I did know who this person is?

  27. #53
    Some refreshing honesty at last.

    You can turn your country into a living hell of a police/security state and you will still not solve this problem.

    So, the choices are:

    A) Live with it. Bury your dead (or what's left of them) every so often when these incidents occur, hold pointless, useless and hopeless "vigils" and tack plush toys and flowers to some security fence.

    B) Remove yourself from the wars being waged that are creating suicide bombers, and stop importing them by the hundreds of thousands into your country.


    Manchester suicide attack lays bare limits of security measures

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-br...KBN18J0N5?il=0

    By Kaori Kaneko and John Irish | TOKYO/PARIS

    Countries across the world will tighten security ahead of major cultural and sports events after a suicide bombing in Britain that killed at least 22 people, but experts say reinforced measures will do little to prevent determined individuals.

    Given the target being a Manchester pop concert, the latest attack to hit Europe had echoes of the coordinated attacks in November 2015 by Islamist militants on the Bataclan concert hall and France's national soccer stadium that killed 130 people.

    Since those attacks, France has been in a state of emergency and seen thousands of soldiers patrolling its streets alongside police to protect tourist sites, government buildings and events.

    That has not stopped a raft of attacks in the country, such as the truck attack in Nice on Bastille Day last July, by "lone-wolf" assailants who did not use a network of fellow militants -- all lessening the risk of alerting security agencies.

    "Whatever is done - and in this case it's British intelligence which is considered among the best in the world - it won't prevent such incidents happening," said Jean-Charles Brisard, president of the Centre for the Analysis of Terrorism.

    "You can bring back the perimeter, add security gates and as many controls as you want, but that will not change the fact that a determined individual will carry out his act if he is not caught before."


    After a meeting with security and intelligence chiefs, Prime Minister Theresa May said police believed they knew the identity of the bomber. The attack was claimed by Islamic State.

    London's mayor said there would be more police on the streets of the capital after the attack at the end of a concert by U.S. singer Ariana Grande in Manchester, 200 miles (320 km)north of London.

    Officials in several other countries on Tuesday also sought to reassure their citizens following Monday's attack.

    The U.S. Department of Homeland Security warned that the U.S. public may experience increased security at public events.

    Hong Kong's AsiaWorld Expo, where Grande is due to hold a concert in September, said it would improve security at all concerts and events. Besides baggage inspection, there would also be metal detectors and search dogs, it said in a statement.

    SM investments Corp, whose Mall of Asia Arena in the Philippine capital will host Grande in August, said it would take all precautions. "Our security is always stepped up especially for big crowds like this," said SM investment relations chief Corazon Guidote.

    Sports events organizers were also looking into security. European soccer body UEFA said there was "no specific intelligence" to suggest that Wednesday's Europa League final in Stockholm between Manchester United and Dutch side Ajax Amsterdam might be the target of any attack.

    The International Cricket Council said security for the ICC Champions Trophy next month in Britain was its "highest priority".

    GENERATION OF TERRORISM

    France's Interior Ministry said on Tuesday it would send a list of measures to police to reinforce security, although officials said there was nothing especially new being proposed.

    "There are plenty of measures already in place including by increasing private security contributions, but everyone has to simply remain vigilant," said Sebastien Pietrasanta, a French Socialist lawmaker and terrorism expert.

    "I think we have to accept that we'll be fighting terrorism for a generation."

    Speaking on RTL radio, Thierry Teodori, who runs a large concert hall in the southern French city of Lyon that was due to host a Grande concert in June, echoed those comments.

    He said venues in France had already substantially beefed up ways of controlling crowds, searches and monitoring queues as well as increasing manpower.

    "With every tragedy there is a new scenario. We have to train personnel to be as effective as possible and anticipate all eventualities, but that's inside the perimeter," he said.

    "Outside the perimeter, it's up to security forces and the state to ensure security because we don't have the legitimacy to do that."

    In Singapore, the organizer of Britney Spears' concerts in June said they were considering new measures.

    "All our events are licensed by the police. It is normally advised by the licensing department on what precautions to take, how many armed guards we need. So we work closely with them," said Yogesh Mehta, project manager at IME Entertainment Group.

    Singapore, which hosts a security summit between June 2-4 bringing together Asia-Pacific defense and military chiefs, made amendments to the Public Order Act last month.

    It requires event organizers to notify the police a month beforehand if they expect more than 5,000 people to attend. And police may refuse to allow a public gathering if it has a direct political end or involves foreigners.

    However, as well as a financial cost, enhancing security to such levels in Western countries may prove unpopular given they could curb on people's existing way of life, experts said.

    "It's a problem of means, but also a political choice," said Brisard. "You have to continue living your life despite the attacks and not enter into the terrorists' game.

    "They want you to change your system so that our society is entirely dependent on a security plan," he said.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Some refreshing honesty at last.

    You can turn your country into a living hell of a police/security state and you will still not solve this problem.

    So, the choices are:

    A) Live with it. Bury your dead (or what's left of them) every so often when these incidents occur, hold pointless, useless and hopeless "vigils" and tack plush toys and flowers to some security fence.

    B) Remove yourself from the wars being waged that are creating suicide bombers, and stop importing them by the hundreds of thousands into your country.


    Manchester suicide attack lays bare limits of security measures

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-br...KBN18J0N5?il=0

    By Kaori Kaneko and John Irish | TOKYO/PARIS

    Countries across the world will tighten security ahead of major cultural and sports events after a suicide bombing in Britain that killed at least 22 people, but experts say reinforced measures will do little to prevent determined individuals.

    Given the target being a Manchester pop concert, the latest attack to hit Europe had echoes of the coordinated attacks in November 2015 by Islamist militants on the Bataclan concert hall and France's national soccer stadium that killed 130 people.

    Since those attacks, France has been in a state of emergency and seen thousands of soldiers patrolling its streets alongside police to protect tourist sites, government buildings and events.

    That has not stopped a raft of attacks in the country, such as the truck attack in Nice on Bastille Day last July, by "lone-wolf" assailants who did not use a network of fellow militants -- all lessening the risk of alerting security agencies.

    "Whatever is done - and in this case it's British intelligence which is considered among the best in the world - it won't prevent such incidents happening," said Jean-Charles Brisard, president of the Centre for the Analysis of Terrorism.

    "You can bring back the perimeter, add security gates and as many controls as you want, but that will not change the fact that a determined individual will carry out his act if he is not caught before."


    After a meeting with security and intelligence chiefs, Prime Minister Theresa May said police believed they knew the identity of the bomber. The attack was claimed by Islamic State.

    London's mayor said there would be more police on the streets of the capital after the attack at the end of a concert by U.S. singer Ariana Grande in Manchester, 200 miles (320 km)north of London.

    Officials in several other countries on Tuesday also sought to reassure their citizens following Monday's attack.

    The U.S. Department of Homeland Security warned that the U.S. public may experience increased security at public events.

    Hong Kong's AsiaWorld Expo, where Grande is due to hold a concert in September, said it would improve security at all concerts and events. Besides baggage inspection, there would also be metal detectors and search dogs, it said in a statement.

    SM investments Corp, whose Mall of Asia Arena in the Philippine capital will host Grande in August, said it would take all precautions. "Our security is always stepped up especially for big crowds like this," said SM investment relations chief Corazon Guidote.

    Sports events organizers were also looking into security. European soccer body UEFA said there was "no specific intelligence" to suggest that Wednesday's Europa League final in Stockholm between Manchester United and Dutch side Ajax Amsterdam might be the target of any attack.

    The International Cricket Council said security for the ICC Champions Trophy next month in Britain was its "highest priority".

    GENERATION OF TERRORISM

    France's Interior Ministry said on Tuesday it would send a list of measures to police to reinforce security, although officials said there was nothing especially new being proposed.

    "There are plenty of measures already in place including by increasing private security contributions, but everyone has to simply remain vigilant," said Sebastien Pietrasanta, a French Socialist lawmaker and terrorism expert.

    "I think we have to accept that we'll be fighting terrorism for a generation."

    Speaking on RTL radio, Thierry Teodori, who runs a large concert hall in the southern French city of Lyon that was due to host a Grande concert in June, echoed those comments.

    He said venues in France had already substantially beefed up ways of controlling crowds, searches and monitoring queues as well as increasing manpower.

    "With every tragedy there is a new scenario. We have to train personnel to be as effective as possible and anticipate all eventualities, but that's inside the perimeter," he said.

    "Outside the perimeter, it's up to security forces and the state to ensure security because we don't have the legitimacy to do that."

    In Singapore, the organizer of Britney Spears' concerts in June said they were considering new measures.

    "All our events are licensed by the police. It is normally advised by the licensing department on what precautions to take, how many armed guards we need. So we work closely with them," said Yogesh Mehta, project manager at IME Entertainment Group.

    Singapore, which hosts a security summit between June 2-4 bringing together Asia-Pacific defense and military chiefs, made amendments to the Public Order Act last month.

    It requires event organizers to notify the police a month beforehand if they expect more than 5,000 people to attend. And police may refuse to allow a public gathering if it has a direct political end or involves foreigners.

    However, as well as a financial cost, enhancing security to such levels in Western countries may prove unpopular given they could curb on people's existing way of life, experts said.

    "It's a problem of means, but also a political choice," said Brisard. "You have to continue living your life despite the attacks and not enter into the terrorists' game.

    "They want you to change your system so that our society is entirely dependent on a security plan," he said.
    EU States Approve Plans To Make Social Media Firms Tackle Hate Speech

    BRUSSELS (Reuters) – European Union ministers approved plans on Tuesday to make social media companies such as Facebook, Twitter and Google’s YouTube tackle hate speech on their platforms, the first legislation at EU level on the issue.

    The proposals still need to be agreed with the European Parliament before becoming law, but EU lawmakers have similarly pushed for social media companies to be included in the legislation.

    The proliferation of hate speech and fake news on social media has increased pressure on companies to remove such content promptly, while internet campaigners have warned an excessive crackdown could endanger freedom of speech.

    Tuesday’s agreement came a day after a suicide bomber killed at least 22 people at a concert in the English city of Manchester. Ministers all offered their condolences to the British delegation.

    Social media companies will have to take measures to prevent the proliferation of hate speech, incitement to hatred and content justifying terrorism on their platforms. They could include establishing mechanisms for users to flag such content.

    “We need to take into account new ways of watching videos, and find the right balance to encourage innovative services, promote European films, protect children and tackle hate speech in a better way,” said Andrus Ansip, EU Commission Vice-President for the digital single market.

    The proposals also include a quota of 30 percent of European films and TV shows on video streaming platforms such as Netflix and Amazon Prime Video, up from the 20 percent originally proposed by the European Commission.

    http://www.oann.com/eu-states-approv...hate-speech-3/
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  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    EU States Approve Plans To Make Social Media Firms Tackle Hate Speech

    BRUSSELS (Reuters) – European Union ministers approved plans on Tuesday to make social media companies such as Facebook, Twitter and Google’s YouTube tackle hate speech on their platforms, the first legislation at EU level on the issue.

    The proposals still need to be agreed with the European Parliament before becoming law, but EU lawmakers have similarly pushed for social media companies to be included in the legislation.

    The proliferation of hate speech and fake news on social media has increased pressure on companies to remove such content promptly, while internet campaigners have warned an excessive crackdown could endanger freedom of speech.

    Tuesday’s agreement came a day after a suicide bomber killed at least 22 people at a concert in the English city of Manchester. Ministers all offered their condolences to the British delegation.

    Social media companies will have to take measures to prevent the proliferation of hate speech, incitement to hatred and content justifying terrorism on their platforms. They could include establishing mechanisms for users to flag such content.

    “We need to take into account new ways of watching videos, and find the right balance to encourage innovative services, promote European films, protect children and tackle hate speech in a better way,” said Andrus Ansip, EU Commission Vice-President for the digital single market.

    The proposals also include a quota of 30 percent of European films and TV shows on video streaming platforms such as Netflix and Amazon Prime Video, up from the 20 percent originally proposed by the European Commission.

    http://www.oann.com/eu-states-approv...hate-speech-3/
    One can hope that if children must be sacrificed on the alter of political correctness and inclusiveness that the children aren't from the productive class.....

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Am I weird that I have no $#@!ing clue who this person is?

    Or would it be weird that I did know who this person is?
    I only know because she did a commercial for T mobile that I used to see when watching a ball game . Pop singer .
    Do something Danke



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  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Am I weird that I have no $#@!ing clue who this person is?

    Or would it be weird that I did know who this person is?
    She's a pop star with a huge following among teen girl fans. She used to be on a Nick kid's show with...Demi Lavato I think? I'm not a fan but she's 22 years old and 22 people died because they adored her. That's gotta be pretty emotional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Why are seemingly all the former Eastern Bloc nations so based? These are hardened people who seem more aware than their painfully soft Western Euro counterparts.

    So is this use of the term "based" some kind of 4chan or alt-right meme?
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