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Thread: Amash is first Republican in Congress to float idea of impeachment

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    How about "Chaffitz is getting the ALLEGED memo/s and any discussion of impeachment, based upon something nobody has seen would be ridiculously premature and inappropriate"?
    We could come up with 20 different totally valid reasons to impeach Trump based on things that are known facts and matters of public record that he himself is proud of. There is no reason not to support it. Amash was going easy on him.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post


    Interesting summary near the end. According to Judge Napolitano, based on what is currently known, there is no crime, but impeachment is a political process, so any President can be impeached if the votes are there.
    Everything is political. Nothing is based in rule of law. Just like the judges staying the travel restrictions. They all cited campaign rhetoric and questioned Trump's intent which had $#@! all to do with whether the EO's were A) constitutional (they were) and B) legal (they were).

    Interesting Judge Nap mentioned that the Republicans control the house, senate and exec but too bad they can't govern. I heard Mark Levin railing about how nobody would be able to tell there's a Republican majority since the Democraps are in charge. He's absolutely right. Chuck Schumer is in charge now. President Schumer says it shall be so and it is.

    The Donald may be good at deal making but he is a little pussy when it comes to the game of politics. He's caved at every bit of pressure. Special prosecutors, for no good reason, recusals, for no good reason. Dems and neocons are like ISIS. They'll cut your $#@!ing head off to get what they want and Trump tries to appease them. Congressional Republicans, as Levin said, simply don't care about their base or what they think or want. Trump got elected because of this (reps betraying their voters) and they still keep doing it.

    We really are screwed as a country. A few years ago I was of the opinion that all was hopeless because you can't fix Satanic. Then Ron Paul entered in '08 and I was hopeful. Alas, all really is lost and I'm back where I was. It's going to crash and burn. We're having a coup and war will probably be next. Did you read that the Obama #resist minions will be attending summer camps across the country? Oh, yeah. That's his civilian army he spoke of in '08 and they've been funded with tax dollars that Obama granted them. Right under our $#@!ing noses. It's the rise of the neo Bolsheviks, enabled by the deep state. And, here are all of these people yapping about fascism this, and fascism that. Erm, nope, this is communism and it's funded by the same financial international who funded Lenin and Trotsky.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    But you know full well that Amash has never criticized him for that in particular.

    Didn't say he did. I was responding to the poster going on about the "authoritarian war mongering fascist", Trump.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    We could come up with 20 different totally valid reasons to impeach Trump based on things that are known facts and matters of public record that he himself is proud of. There is no reason not to support it. Amash was going easy on him.
    Who is "we" - you and Chuck Schumer?

    Chucky can't come up with ONE thing to impeach Trump, let alone twenty, and he sure would if he could. You're delusional. Trump has done NOTHING warranting impeachment.

  7. #35
    How about we just impeach them all???
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    How about we just impeach them all???
    I was thinking of something much more harsh than impeachment, but yeah, I could get behind this.

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  10. #38
    Just caught Chaffitz on Tucker Carlson and he said the special investigation could go on for YEARS and he is concerned the Dems plan on daily wild speculations to keep making political hay. He said, regarding evidence of collusion with Russia, "They got nothin'". Tucker brought up that Maxine Waters accused Chaffitz of being in bed with the Kremlin. This "you're a Kremlin agent" began with Ukraine and is a charge the Ukienazis level at everyone who ever speaks the truth about what happened or is happening there. It's important to remember that these scumbag Ukrainians are also involved in this whole mess. They provided opposition research for Clinton and Crowdstrike, the DNC cyber security contractor, is owned by a Ukie Putin/Russia hater. They hate Trump because of his statements about getting along with Russia and whatever it was he said about Crimea (can't recall but along the lines that the people of Crimea had the right to decide their own future). Unless followed the coup and war in Ukraine, they'd never know how nuts these people are. It was Ukies behind that absurd website "PropOrNot" that the Washington compost wrote about, calling them "experts" on what websites were okay to read and what were not.

    The war on Trump and also against our country is a deep rabbit hole full of seriously deranged and criminal people.

  11. #39
    Why is Justin's response to a hypothetical question more outrageous than him not endorsing Trump for president?
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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    Just caught Chaffitz on Tucker Carlson and he said the special investigation could go on for YEARS and he is concerned the Dems plan on daily wild speculations to keep making political hay....
    Of course. The GOP did it to Clinton in the 90's. Whitewater, Travelgate, Foster, Filegate....that's just the beginning. Eventually they got something to stick.

    The war on Trump....


    You can be a Trump supporter but if you're abandoning legitimate liberty candidates over him then these forums probably are not the place for you. Amash might not be perfect but he is literally all you have.
    Last edited by angelatc; 05-18-2017 at 08:55 AM.



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    Who is "we" - you and Chuck Schumer?
    No, "we" means people who support the mission of this website.

    Do you honestly doubt what I said?

    If you do, then why are you even here?

    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    Chucky can't come up with ONE thing to impeach Trump
    That's because for Chuck Schumer, violating the Constitution is a good thing. I wouldn't expect that view from members of this website.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    How about we just impeach them all???
    +rep

    When did this concept become hard to grasp around here?

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by chudrockz View Post
    Oh Justin, you're no chess player. You're no chess player at ALL.
    Exactly, this isn't even checkers. It's more like connect 4. To his credit, it's 3D connect 4
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  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    +rep

    When did this concept become hard to grasp around here?
    When we realized Santa and the tooth fairy didn't exist. How the hell do you even go about impeaching them all? did you actually think about it before hitting the rep button? this movement would not progress an inch(forward) and continue to move backwards if we continue to engage in unrealistic wishful thinking.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    When we realized Santa and the tooth fairy didn't exist. How the hell do you even go about impeaching them all? did you actually think about it before hitting the rep button? this movement would not progress an inch(forward) and continue to move backwards if we continue to engage in unrealistic wishful thinking.
    Nobody's saying we can. But it would be good if we did.

    Holding to ideals doesn't stop us from moving forward. It gives us the direction we need to move.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Of course. The GOP did it to Clinton in the 90's. Whitewater, Travelgate, Foster, Filegate....that's just the beginning. Eventually they got something to stick.



    You can be a Trump supporter but if you're abandoning legitimate liberty candidates over him then these forums probably are not the place for you. Amash might not be perfect but he is literally all you have.
    It's been a long since the Clinton days and I don't recall if there were special investigators for Whitewater, Vince Foster and all of the other stuff. Were there? I mean before Lewinsky. I do recall that after Foster was suicided an MSM reporter was stationed outside of the White House reporting that Hillary and Maggie whats-her-face (HRC aid) were shredding stacks of boxes of documents. Point being, everyone knew the Clinton's were dirty. That's unlike false Russia hysteria.

    What do so many people here, like you, invite others to leave when a comment is made they don't like? Is there a group think rule that I missed?

    You roll eyes at my "war on Trump" remark. Why? Are you implying there isn't one? I've contented there is a communist deep state war against both Trump and the United States. Acknowledging reality doesn't make one some Trump bootlicker or imply Trump love. Dennis Kucinich has said the same thing and I don't think anyone outside of the Democratic Underground loons would accuse Kuncinich of being a Trump supporter.

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    No, "we" means people who support the mission of this website.

    Do you honestly doubt what I said?

    If you do, then why are you even here?



    That's because for Chuck Schumer, violating the Constitution is a good thing. I wouldn't expect that view from members of this website.
    You speak for yourself, no one else. This is not a collective.

    You've stated that you welcome a deep state a coup d'etat in the United States, i.e., "taking down a president". I don't think you'd find much company here sharing such a sentiment. Perhaps it's you that should answer why you're here. I came when Ron Paul ran.

    Since you're in favor of a coup, your mention of the constitution is laughable. Since Chucky is all up in the coup, you two are really rather simpatico

  21. #48
    Thomas Massie addresses the Amash "quote" at the 1:58 mark:

    White House controversies are ‘weapons of mass distraction,’ says Rep. Massie

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  23. #49
    "Weapons of mass distraction" and "the Deep Swamp"

    lol
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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    You speak for yourself, no one else. This is not a collective.
    You may not have noticed, but yes, as a matter of fact this website does have a mission statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    You've stated that you welcome a deep state a coup d'etat in the United States, i.e., "taking down a president". I don't think you'd find much company here sharing such a sentiment.
    You're kidding yourself.

  25. #51
    The actual quote from Amash:

    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
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    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  26. #52
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    Trump said - "The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don't get on the team, & fast. We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!"
    Dan Scavino Jr., White House director of social media and senior aide to Mr. Trump, labeled Amash a “big liability” in a tweet Saturday, urging followers to “defeat him in primary.”


    Why would Amash be loyal to Trump.

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    +rep

    When did this concept become hard to grasp around here?

    The moment political "victories" became more important than actual principles.
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  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    A reporter just tweeted the following this morning:

    https://twitter.com/KatieBoWill/stat...41029853343745

    And if I have the right six numbers, I win the lottery.

    Is there a point to this?

    Unless there is something much more to all of this, it has the stink of irrelevancy and innuendo clearly tasked to character assassination all over it.

    The longer I see Trump behind the cross-hairs as Theye engage in an ever more transparently ridiculous dance in the hopes of striking some pay-dirt... ANY pay-dirt, the more I'm thinking that he may not be the bad guy so many are asserting. That doesn't mean he's my ideal for the job, but perhaps he is a whole lot better than so many deem, if for no other reason than that he's not in Theire pockets. Just speculation, of course, but if all the carrying-on is to be believed, then Trump really is a threat of some measure to the so-called "deep state", which in itself cannot be a bad thing.
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  29. #55
    Justin didn't fall for it the second time around...



    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Unless there is something much more to all of this, it has the stink of irrelevancy and innuendo clearly tasked to character assassination all over it.
    Whose character would it be assassinating?



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Whose character would it be assassinating?
    Amash's for one, and really the only one that should matter. I can see the GOP talking heads raking him over the coals for this.

    This isn't a sword he needs to fall on. Leave the impeachment talk to the democrats. Let them risk their seats in Congress over it. I can think of a lot of people who would like to see Amash's time in Congress ended.

    There's nothing to be gained by impeaching Trump that would be worth losing one of the few liberty Congressmen we have in D.C. Nothing. You get Trump out and Pence takes over. He's a man with only as much if not less conviction in his beliefs than Trump, he's just a better talker, a well-groomed politician—Again, not worth losing Amash to the firestorm of negative press among GOP voters that will be unleashed upon him.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 05-30-2017 at 10:51 AM.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Amash's for one
    I don't see how it does that.

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    Why is Justin's response to a hypothetical question more outrageous than him not endorsing Trump for president?
    When Trump entered the 2016 race, 15 to 20 GOP contenders were already there.
    If Justin Amash held back from leaping on DJT's rolling bandwagon, I can forgive
    him. I do not remember Ron Paul endorsing Mitt Romney in 2012 and I think back
    at the anger sent Rand's way when he made his peace with Mitt. The droll aspect
    of impeachment is that half the House is needed for there to be a senate trial. over
    the next year, if Justin Amash has not changed both his mind and his stance, then
    he assumes any rashness by the House will be tempered by the act of getting 70
    senators to agree on something. Proof of guilt is not needed to start the trial phase.
    Being guilty of quite a few things is something that needs to be proven at that trial.

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