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    Authorities in Hamburg, the second-largest city in Germany, have begun confiscating private dwellings to ease a housing shortage

    Soeren Kern | The Gatestone Institute - May 15, 2017 1707 Comments

    In an unprecedented move, Hamburg authorities confiscated six residential units in the Hamm district near the city center. A trustee appointed by the city is now renovating the properties and will rent them — against the will of the owner — to tenants chosen by the city. District spokeswoman Sorina Weiland said that all renovation costs will be billed to the owner of the properties.

    Similar expropriation measures have been proposed in Berlin, the German capital, but abandoned because they were deemed unconstitutional.

    Some Germans are asking what is next: Will authorities now limit the maximum amount of living space per person, and force those with large apartments to share them with strangers?

    Authorities in Hamburg, the second-largest city in Germany, have begun confiscating private dwellings to ease a housing shortage — one that has been acutely exacerbated by Chancellor Angela Merkel’s decision to allow more than two million migrants into the country in recent years.

    City officials have been seizing commercial properties and converting them into migrant shelters since late 2015, when Merkel opened German borders to hundreds of thousands of migrants from Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Now, however, the city is expropriating residential property units owned by private citizens.

    In an unprecedented move, Hamburg authorities recently confiscated six residential units in the Hamm district near the city center.The units, which are owned by a private landlord, are in need of repair and have been vacant since 2012. A trustee appointed by the city is now renovating the properties and will rent them — against the will of the owner — to tenants chosen by the city. District spokeswoman Sorina Weiland said that all renovation costs will be billed to the owner of the properties.

    The expropriation is authorized by the Hamburg Housing Protection Act (Hamburger Wohnraumschutzgesetz), a 1982 law that was updatedby the city’s Socialist government in May 2013 to enable the city to seize any residential property unit that has been vacant for more than four months.

    The forced lease, the first of its kind in Germany, is said to be aimed at pressuring the owners of other vacant residences in the city to make them available for rent. Of the 700,000 rental units in Hamburg, somewhere between 1,000 and 5,000 (less than one percent) are believed to be vacant, according an estimate by the Hamburg Senate.

    Socialists and Greens in Hamburg recently established a “hotline” where local residents can report vacant properties. Activists have also created a website — Leerstandsmelder (Vacancy Detector) — to identify unoccupied real estate in Hamburg and other German cities.

    It remains unclear why the landlord in Hamm left his apartments vacant for more than five years. Some have posited that, given the location of the properties, the renovation costs may have been too high and probably would not have been offset by the rental income.

    Others are blaming city officials for not approving more building permits to allow for the construction of new residential units. A study conducted in 2012 — well before the migrant crisis reached epic proportions — forecast that by 2017, Hamburg would have a deficit of at least 50,000 rental properties.

    In 2016, however, only 2,433 new residential units came onto the market, while only 2,290 new building permits were approved, accordingto statistics provided by the City of Hamburg. These numbers were up slightly from 2,192 new units and 2,041 new permit approvals in 2015.

    In 2012, Hamburg’s Socialist government presented a plan to build 6,000 new residential units per year. The plan never materialized, however, because prospective builders were constricted by government-imposed rental caps which would have made it impossible for them to even recover their construction costs.

    Since then, the city has turned to seizing private property to resolve its self-inflicted housing crisis.

    On October 1, 2015, the Hamburg Parliament (Hamburgische Bürgerschaft) approved a new law that allows the city to seize vacant commercial real estate (office buildings and land) and use it to house migrants.

    City officials said the measure was necessary because, at the time, more than 400 new migrants were arriving in Hamburg each day and all the existing refugee shelters were full. They said that because the owners of vacant real estate refused to make their property available to the city on a voluntary basis, the city should be given the right to take it by force.

    The measure was applauded by those on the left of the political spectrum. “We are doing everything we can to ensure that the refugees are not homeless during the coming winter,” said Senator Till Steffen of the Green Party. “For this reason, we need to use vacant commercial properties.”

    Others have argued that efforts by the state to seize private property are autocratic and reek of Communism. “The proposed confiscation of private land and buildings is a massive attack on the property rights of the citizens of Hamburg,” said André Trepoll of the center-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU). “It amounts to an expropriation by the state.” He said the proposed measure is a “law of intimidation” that amounts to a “political dam-break with far-reaching implications.” He added: “The ends do not justify any and all means.”

    Katja Suding, the leader of the Free Democrats (FDP) in Hamburg, said that the proposed law is an “unacceptable crossing of red lines… Such coercive measures will only fuel resentment against refugees.”

    Similar expropriation measures have been proposed in Berlin, the German capital, but abandoned because they were deemed unconstitutional.

    In November 2015, lawmakers in Berlin considered emergency legislation that would have allowed local authorities to seize private residences to accommodate asylum seekers. The proposal would have authorized police forcibly to enter private homes and apartments without a warrant to determine their suitability as housing for refugees and migrants.

    The legislation, proposed by Berlin Mayor Michael Müller of the center-left Social Democrats (SPD), would have amended Section 36 of Berlin’s Public Order and Safety Law (Allgemeine Gesetz zum Schutz der öffentlichen Sicherheit und Ordnung, ASOG), which currently allows police to enter private residences only in extreme instances, to “avert acute threats,” that is, to fight serious crime. Müller wanted to expand the scope for warrantless inspections to include “preventing homelessness.”

    The proposal was kept secret from the public until the leader of the Free Democrats (FDP) in Berlin, Sebastian Czaja, warned the measure would violate the German constitution. He said:

    “The plans of the Berlin Senate to requisition residential and commercial property without the consent of the owner to accommodate refugees is an open breach of the constitution. The attempt by the Senate to undermine the constitutional right to property and the inviolability of the home must be resolutely opposed.”

    Since then, both the mayor’s office and the Senate appear to have abandoned their plans.

    Following an investigation, Gunnar Schupelius, a columnist with the Berlin newspaper BZ, wrote:

    “A strange report made the rounds at the weekend: The Senate would authorize the police to enter private homes to house refugees, even against the will of the owner. I thought it was only satire, then a misunderstanding, because the Basic Law, Article 13, states: ‘The home is inviolable.’
    “So I went on a search for the source of this strange report and found it. There is a ‘proposal’ which the Senate Chancellery (Senatskanzlei) has apparently circulated among the senators. The Senate Chancellery is another name for the mayor’s office. The permanent secretary is Björn Böhning (SPD)…

    “The proposal is clear: The police can enter private property without a court order in order to search for housing for refugees when these are threatened with homelessness. You can do that ‘without the consent of the owner.’ And not only should the police be allowed to do this, but also the regulatory agencies.

    “This delicate ‘proposal’ attracted little public attention. Only Berlin FDP General Secretary Sebastian Czaja spoke up and warned of an ‘open preparation for breach of the constitution.’ Internally, there should have been protests. The ‘proposal’ suddenly disappeared from the table. Is it completely gone or will it return?”
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    This may be the most bizarre one I have read . The city is having it remodeled and billing the owner . Looks like Hamburg has gone full retard .
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    Heads need to roll over this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    This may be the most bizarre one I have read . The city is having it remodeled and billing the owner . Looks like Hamburg has gone full retard .
    This is what the dolts in Commiefornia would like to do if they could get away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindsey View Post
    Heads need to roll over this.
    No heads will roll...the German people want this, and whole lot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    This is what the dolts in Commiefornia would like to do if they could get away with it.
    Yeah , anybody reading this ought to sell out and cash in and get out of that business .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    This is what the dolts in Commiefornia would like to do if they could get away with it.
    Frankly surprised they have not started already, using some form of eminent domain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Frankly surprised they have not started already, using some form of eminent domain.
    Please don't give them any ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    No heads will roll...the German people want this, and whole lot more.
    Your source for this remarkable claim is what?

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    Some Germans are asking what is next: Will authorities now limit the maximum amount of living space per person, and force those with large apartments to share them with strangers?
    It sounds like Germany needs some better Lebensraum
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    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    Your source for this remarkable claim is what?
    Voting records no doubt.

    The socialist leanings of Ca. are well documented...

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    Fantastical story that is not impossible to believe but seeing as the source of the story is infowhores and the 1st 5 pages of google are all from sketchy/fake news type sites all sourcing from the same material (same paragraphs and all). I will be forced to reserve any judgement on the story until I get a second opinion.

    But why are you guys all of a sudden outraged that govt is taking private property (if this story is even true)? The same govt took money from same people to bomb the homes and home countries of most of those refugees. I hate to choose between two evils but if I were to choose which is worse between taking property to destroy and kill over taking property to house and shelter, I can tell you that I'd choose the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Fantastical story that is not impossible to believe but seeing as the source of the story is infowhores and the 1st 5 pages of google are all from sketchy/fake news type sites all sourcing from the same material (same paragraphs and all). I will be forced to reserve any judgement on the story until I get a second opinion.

    But why are you guys all of a sudden outraged that govt is taking private property (if this story is even true)? The same govt took money from same people to bomb the homes and home countries of most of those refugees. I hate to choose between two evils but if I were to choose which is worse between taking property to destroy and kill over taking property to house and shelter, I can tell you that I'd choose the latter.
    You obviously view the foreign interlopers as 'migrants' whereas the populace of Germany views them as invaders..

    I'm going to side with the indigenous people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    You obviously view the foreign interlopers as 'migrants' whereas the populace of Germany views them as invaders..

    I'm going to side with the indigenous people.
    Well, the invading Germany army attacked their homelands first and then they were forced to leave their homes. Like you said, in your previous post when someone asked how one knows the German people support their govt and you said

    Voting records no doubt.
    So we can agree that the German people actively or passively supported the destruction and killing of most of these people in their homelands. If that is true, then they are the ones who invaded first and because of that I have less sympathy for them than the people who were made homeless by them and forced to seek refugee outside their homeland.

    Actions have consequences and when you vote for globalist war mongers in power time and time again, you tend to get things like this.



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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Well, the invading Germany army attacked their homelands first and then they were forced to leave their homes. Like you said, in your previous post when someone asked how one knows the German people support their govt and you said



    So we can agree that the German people actively or passively supported the destruction and killing of most of these people in their homelands. If that is true, then they are the ones who invaded first and because of that I have less sympathy for them than the people who were made homeless by them and forced to seek refugee outside their homeland.

    Actions have consequences and when you vote for globalist war mongers in power time and time again, you tend to get things like this.
    This is the German peoples issue, if they did in fact "attack them in their homelands" then they did a piss-poor job of it if the combatants are traipsing into their towns in Germany and demanding housing.

    I might have a bit of sympathy if the foreigners were widowed mothers and prepubescent children but when the majority are males who are able to shoulder a weapon they get no sympathy from me...

    But like I said, it's Germany's problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    This is the German peoples issue, if they did in fact "attack them in their homelands" then they did a piss-poor job of it if the combatants are traipsing into their towns in Germany and demanding housing.
    Combatants? how do you get around describing these refugees as combatants? Well, I dunno about demanding housing, but id sure be pissed to hell if these countries bomb the hell out of my country for "humanitarian" reasons and then refuse to give me shelter when I show up at their door. I am not saying that no refugee demanded shelter(I am sure some really angry ones did) but even if all of them did demand shelter from the German govt, I'd understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    I might have a bit of sympathy if the foreigners were widowed mothers and prepubescent children but when the majority are males who are able to shoulder a weapon they get no sympathy from me...
    Yea, because we all know only women and children deserve our sympathy, everyone else can do lay their lives down fighting and occupying force with more sophisticated weapons than have ever been deployed on the battlefield. I am a military aged man but when war breaks out, I am getting out of dodge, I think I would pass on trying to fight a predator drone with my AK 47.

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    But like I said, it's Germany's problem.
    I agree.

    Btw, I completely understand German citizens opposing this sort of thing (If it is true) but I think the resisting should have started when the govt tried to sell them a humanitarian war. It is not just immoral and wicked but it could come back and bite you in the arse like we are seeing now (if this misinfowar story is true)

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    Hooboy... caught me in a sarcastic moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Authorities in Hamburg...
    Now there is a contradiction in terms, if ever I saw one.

    In an unprecedented move, Hamburg authorities confiscated six residential units in the Hamm district near the city center. A trustee appointed by the city is now renovating the properties and will rent them — against the will of the owner — to tenants chosen by the city. District spokeswoman Sorina Weiland said that all renovation costs will be billed to the owner of the properties.
    This is so modern Germany. "Yu vill du az zee Führer ohduz, und yu vill like it. Sieg HEIL!"

    Similar expropriation measures have been proposed in Berlin, the German capital, but abandoned because they were deemed unconstitutional.
    And the moment Hamburg gets away with it, which they will, the rest will follow like a swarm of rats. My apologies to rats.

    Some Germans are asking what is next:
    Which is about ALL they can do since they allowed themselves to be completely disarmed. Harsh words and whiney tones are no match for the Steyr AUG.


    Will authorities now limit the maximum amount of living space per person, and force those with large apartments to share them with strangers?
    I will be on my ass laughing so hard when those candy-assed Germans are forced to share dwellings with Muslims and will then have to bend to the invaders' wills. Let those impossibly stupid people learn what it is like the way my grandparents had to when their house was split in two and a good communist given the other half and when grandma's have had to be filled with her sister, nephew, niece, and great niece as the only alternative to complete strangers, randomly picked off the street being installed with full rights to everything.

    My cousin Kati lives right there in Hamburg w/her husband and two children. It should be interesting to see how they are affected by this, if at all.

    Authorities in Hamburg, the second-largest city in Germany, have begun confiscating private dwellings to ease a housing shortage — one that has been acutely exacerbated by Chancellor Angela Merkel’s decision to allow more than two million migrants into the country in recent years.

    The expropriation is authorized by the Hamburg Housing Protection Act (Hamburger Wohnraumschutzgesetz), a 1982 law that was updatedby the city’s Socialist government in May 2013 to enable the city to seize any residential property unit that has been vacant for more than four months.
    Typical move by the progressives. Textbook.

    Behold the tyranny of good intentions fueled by the wholesale disregard of one population in favor of another. I wonder where the Antifa snowflakes are? Why are they not screaming their indignation?

    Socialists and Greens in Hamburg recently established a “hotline” where local residents can report vacant properties. Activists have also created a website — Leerstandsmelder (Vacancy Detector) — to identify unoccupied real estate in Hamburg and other German cities.
    Can you $#@!ing believe this? This is so textbook-deja-vu-all-over-again, I can hardly believe this is not from The Onion.

    It remains unclear why the landlord in Hamm left his apartments vacant for more than five years. Some have posited that, given the location of the properties, the renovation costs may have been too high and probably would not have been offset by the rental income.
    And yet, it appears he will have to pay for them anyway. Who will pay the rent? I am almost willing to bet that the landlords will receive no payments, but still will be forced to pay.

    Sorry, but as horrible as this is, I say the German people deserve it 100%. They learned NOTHING from the outcomes of WWII. They are, in fact, far more stupid and corrupt today than in the Hitler era. I would say let them be extinguished except for one thing: Germany would then be handed over to Muslims on a silver platter.

    In 2012, Hamburg’s Socialist government presented a plan to build 6,000 new residential units per year. The plan never materialized, however, because prospective builders were constricted by government-imposed rental caps which would have made it impossible for them to even recover their construction costs.
    The only surprise there is that the government has not forced them into constructing the unit at the points of guns. Well, day's still young and dreaming is still free.

    Since then, the city has turned to seizing private property to resolve its self-inflicted housing crisis.
    It's what the ilk DOES.

    On October 1, 2015, the Hamburg Parliament (Hamburgische Bürgerschaft) approved a new law that allows the city to seize vacant commercial real estate (office buildings and land) and use it to house migrants.

    City officials said the measure was necessary because, at the time, more than 400 new migrants were arriving in Hamburg each day and all the existing refugee shelters were full. They said that because the owners of vacant real estate refused to make their property available to the city on a voluntary basis, the city should be given the right to take it by force.
    I know this is going to sound impossibly and stupidly naive, but I can barely wrap my head around the fact that Theye are getting away with this. After 50 years of Cold War witness, the German people are still this bottomlessly compliant. My brain feels like it's being rubbed with coarse abrasive paper... in a hot frying pan.

    The measure was applauded by those on the left of the political spectrum. “We are doing everything we can to ensure that the refugees are not homeless during the coming winter,” said Senator Till Steffen of the Green Party. “For this reason, we need to use vacant commercial properties.”
    What needs to happen now is a Tet-style offensive by common Germans - never happen, but it's still needed. Just days before (or perhaps after ) the first tenants are to occupy the first units, a city-wide conflagration erupts at all the properties at once. Burn them all to the ground and make sure all the utility connections such as water, sewage, electrical, and gas are maximally destroyed. Then let the migrants make their choice between freezing and going back home.

    Others have argued that efforts by the state to seize private property are autocratic and reek of Communism. “The proposed confiscation of private land and buildings is a massive attack on the property rights of the citizens of Hamburg,” said André Trepoll of the center-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU). “It amounts to an expropriation by the state.” He said the proposed measure is a “law of intimidation” that amounts to a “political dam-break with far-reaching implications.” He added: “The ends do not justify any and all means.”
    There are no property rights in Germany. Hell, there are barely any left in America.

    In November 2015, lawmakers in Berlin considered emergency legislation that would have allowed local authorities to seize private residences to accommodate asylum seekers. The proposal would have authorized police forcibly to enter private homes and apartments without a warrant to determine their suitability as housing for refugees and migrants.
    This, too, has "Germany" written all over it. Germans rival the Brits for disgusting compliancy. What a despicable race they have become. Clearly, modern life has done them no favors, having reduced them to spoiled, fat-headed, cowardly infants.

    “This delicate ‘proposal’ attracted little public attention.
    Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, Germany.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    But why are you guys all of a sudden outraged that govt is taking private property (if this story is even true)? The same govt took money from same people to bomb the homes and home countries of most of those refugees. I hate to choose between two evils but if I were to choose which is worse between taking property to destroy and kill over taking property to house and shelter, I can tell you that I'd choose the latter.
    Shut up Ed, and quit virtue signaling.

    We've been hollering about wars and invasion just as loud and just as long.

    It's not my fault Boobus Europeous does not want to listen any more than Boobus Northamericanus does.

    All of it is a concocted and protracted war on us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    All of it is a concocted and protracted war on us.
    Authorities in Hamburg, the second-largest city in Germany, have begun confiscating private dwellings to ease a housing shortage — one that has been acutely exacerbated by Chancellor Angela Merkel’s decision to allow more than two million migrants into the country in recent years
    Wowzer, almost 2.5% of their total population. yeah, that won't change a country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    This, too, has "Germany" written all over it. Germans rival the Brits for disgusting compliancy. What a despicable race they have become. Clearly, modern life has done them no favors, having reduced them to spoiled, fat-headed, cowardly infants.


    Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, Germany.
    God that made me laugh.

    Seriously though, this is really sort of scary, how the Camp of the Saints is playing out in real life.

    At the very end of the book, the small working class family that was huddled in their flat in Paris, watching events unfold, are ultimately "shamed" out of their home to turn it over to a Muslim family of 8.

    Read it here:

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/pdfs/ca...the_saints.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Shut up Ed, and quit virtue signaling.

    We've been hollering about wars and invasion just as loud and just as long.

    It's not my fault Boobus Europeous does not want to listen any more than Boobus Northamericanus does.

    All of it is a concocted and protracted war on us.
    I can bet that if I did a search, I would not find one post from you admonishing the Germans for allowing their govts to lead them into multiple wars in the middle east and North Africa. That is where the outrage be the loudest, but instead we see posting from well know fake news sites like misinfowars tell us what seems like half a story and feigning outrage about the refugee story. The people at infowars know very well what the real problem is but they would never talk about it to the sheeple still gullible enough to consume their product.

    Please quit using silly buzzwords like "virtue signaling" EWNC, its annoying and its an easy give away that you have consumed way too much alt right/ nationalist material. Also don't get mad at me, instead get mad at the people promoting and voting for these politicians that create these problems (if the story is actually true). The refugee problem is the symptom and not the disease. Devote most of your anger on the symptom and you die of the disease.

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    I think this news piece should go here:

    SWEDEN: 70YO WOMAN PROSECUTED FOR COMPLAINING ABOUT MIGRANTS DEFECATING IN THE STREETS
    A 70-year-old Swedish woman is facing up to four years in prison for complaining on Facebook about migrants defecating in the streets

    Chris Menahan | Information Liberation - MAY 15, 2017

    A 70-year-old Swedish woman is facing up to four years in prison for complaining on Facebook about migrants defecating in the streets.

    From Fria Tider (translated from Swedish with Google):
    A 70 year old woman in Dalarna prosecuted for hate speech after writing on Facebook that immigrants are defecating in the streets, writes DT.se.
    According to the prosecution, the woman via Facebook wrote disparagingly of people with a foreign background.
    In a post from 2015, she has written that immigrants “set cars on fire and urinate and defecate in the streets.”
    This violates the law on incitement to racial hatred, according to the prosecutor.
    The accused woman in police interrogation admitted that she wrote the post, but denied that she committed a criminal act.
    The evidence against the 70-year-old woman is a screenshot from Facebook.
    The penalty for incitement to racial hatred is imprisonment not exceeding two years or, for petty offenses, fines. If the offense is considered to be grave sentenced the defendants to prison terms of between six months and four years.
    She’s being dragged into court and threatened with jail for a two year old Facebook post which is factually correct.
    While the Western media and leftist “human rights” groups will whine about attacks on free speech in places like China and Russia, in Sweden and Germany they’re throwing people in prison for writing “anti-migrant” Facebook posts.
    https://www.infowars.com/sweden-70yo...n-the-streets/
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    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    Your source for this remarkable claim is what?
    Continual and increasing margins of victory for leftist one worlders in free and open elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I can bet that if I did a search, I would not find one post from you admonishing the Germans for allowing their govts to lead them into multiple wars in the middle east and North Africa. That is where the outrage be the loudest, but instead we see posting from well know fake news sites like misinfowars tell us what seems like half a story and feigning outrage about the refugee story. The people at infowars know very well what the real problem is but they would never talk about it to the sheeple still gullible enough to consume their product.

    Please quit using silly buzzwords like "virtue signaling" EWNC, its annoying and its an easy give away that you have consumed way too much alt right/ nationalist material. Also don't get mad at me, instead get mad at the people promoting and voting for these politicians that create these problems (if the story is actually true). The refugee problem is the symptom and not the disease. Devote most of your anger on the symptom and you die of the disease.
    Then don't read it, Ed.

    I don't argue I try not to argue with sock puppets...God knows it's getting damn near impossible these days.

    Buzz off.

    Please quit using silly buzzwords like "virtue signaling" EWNC
    When you stop using unknown acronyms, I'll think about it.

    Actually though, you're right, it was pure laziness on my part to use that phrase, I didn't take the couple of seconds to type out "sanctimonious, self righteous, twaddle".
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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Voting records no doubt.

    The socialist leanings of Ca. are well documented...
    Bingo...did not see your post.

    To have somebody question what Germans want is like somebody questioning what Kalifornians want.

    Super Majority one party leftist rule...it's obvious what they want.

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    This belongs here too. Just because someone on the internet says something doesn't mean it is true. We have seen headlines saying refugees raped 100s of German women in New Years day celebration, burned down Germany's oldest church etc etc and they were all lies. All I am saying is that when a website posts something that confirms their bias, sounds outlandish/too good to be true, just do a little bit more use a little due diligence and investigate before pushing the story.

    We know the saying that "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes". Not saying this is a lie but I just think it needs to be corroborated with other sources before posting.

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    We know the saying that "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes". Not saying this is a lie but I just think it needs to be corroborated with other sources before posting.
    That is good advice, no doubt, but as I don't speak German and the original source is a German publication, I'm left to trust somewhat.

    Keep in mind that this is not an InfoWars story.

    It was re-posted in its entirety from this source:

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1...roperty-rights

  34. #30
    That merkelstan $#@! cracks me up .
    Do something Danke

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