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    Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador

    Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador

    By Greg Miller and Greg Jaffe May 15 at 5:01 PM


    President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.

    The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

    The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said Trump’s decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump’s meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency.

    “This is code-word information,” said a U.S. official familiar with the matter, using terminology that refers to one of the highest classification levels used by American spy agencies. Trump “revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.”

    The revelation comes as the president faces rising legal and political pressure on multiple Russia-related fronts. Last week, he fired FBI Director James B. Comey in the midst of a bureau investigation into possible links between the Trump campaign and Moscow. Trump’s subsequent admission that his decision was driven by “this Russia thing” was seen by critics as attempted obstruction of justice.

    One day after dismissing Comey, Trump welcomed Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak — a key figure in earlier Russia controversies — into the Oval Office. It was during that meeting, officials said, that Trump went off script and began describing details of an Islamic State terrorist threat related to the use of laptop computers on aircraft.

    For almost anyone in government, discussing such matters with an adversary would be illegal. As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law.

    “The president and the foreign minister reviewed common threats from terrorist organizations to include threats to aviation,” said H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser, who participated in the meeting. “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed, and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”

    The CIA declined to comment, and the NSA did not respond to requests for comment.

    But officials expressed concern about Trump’s handling of sensitive information as well as his grasp of the potential consequences. Exposure of an intelligence stream that has provided critical insight into the Islamic State, they said, could hinder the United States’ and its allies’ ability to detect future threats.

    “It is all kind of shocking,” said a former senior U.S. official who is close to current administration officials. “Trump seems to be very reckless and doesn’t grasp the gravity of the things he’s dealing with, especially when it comes to intelligence and national security. And it’s all clouded because of this problem he has with Russia.”

    ...
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...b69_story.html
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    "For almost anyone in government, discussing such matters with an adversary would be illegal. As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law."

    End of story.
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    The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.
    I'm gonna take a wild guess..

    It's either Saudi Arabia or Israel..
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I'm gonna take a wild guess..

    It's either Saudi Arabia or Israel..
    Or Turkey, maybe Trump wants to slap their hands by giving Putin the Info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I'm gonna take a wild guess..

    It's either Saudi Arabia or Israel..
    Hysterical media is saying it was Israel. Shocking.
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    Trump aide accidentally revealed Mattis phone number in photo

    BY OLIVIA BEAVERS - 05/15/17 05:33 PM EDT 32


    President Trump aide and longtime bodyguard Keith Schiller accidentally revealed the cellphone number of Defense Secretary James Mattis in a photo sent to the press.

    The Washington Post published the photo to accompany a Thursday article about Schiller's role in delivering the termination letter to then-FBI Director James Comey.

    The photo showed Schiller walking with the president around the White House grounds while carrying a stack of papers. On the stack of papers, a yellow sticky note reportedly listed Mattis’s name and personal phone number.

    A reader, who noticed the inadvertently leaked number, called the Post to notify them.

    Post reporter Rachel Manteuffel then blew up the photo, called the number and said she reached his voicemail.

    “I called. I got the voice mail. It was him,” she wrote.

    The Post said it has replaced the article's photo with another image.

    Schiller, who reportedly has the president’s trust, made his way into the public spotlight when he punched a protestor outside of Trump Tower.

    The story comes the same day the Post reported that Trump revealed highly classified information to top Russian diplomats last week.
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...umber-in-photo
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...53862281699331
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...53862281699331
    "Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
    The real scandal here is that classified information is illegally given out by "intelligence" like candy. Very un-American!"

    If POTUS decides it is in the National interest to share Info with a Diplomatic Partner that is not "giving it out like candy", the unmasking scandal and Obummers Sharing with every alphabet soup agency were such cases.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    But officials expressed concern about Trump’s handling of sensitive information as well as his grasp of the potential consequences. Exposure of an intelligence stream that has provided critical insight into the Islamic State, they said, could hinder the United States’ and its allies’ ability to detect future threats.

    “It is all kind of shocking,” said a former senior U.S. official who is close to current administration officials. “Trump seems to be very reckless and doesn’t grasp the gravity of the things he’s dealing with, especially when it comes to intelligence and national security. And it’s all clouded because of this problem he has with Russia.”
    Trump? Reckless and ignorant? No...

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    My money says the TV character gets rolled by the professional diplomat.
    ...like candy from a fat, toupeed baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Trump? Reckless and ignorant? No...



    ...like candy from a fat, toupeed baby.

    Dan Merica‏Verified account @danmericaCNN






    Deputy NSA Dina Powell to @Acosta: "This story is false. The president only discussed the common threats that both countries faced."
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Dan Merica‏Verified account @danmericaCNN

    Deputy NSA Dina Powell to @Acosta: "This story is false. The president only discussed the common threats that both countries faced."
    O, a government official denied that there was wrongdoing within the government?

    Well, I'm convinced...

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    O, a government official denied that there was wrongdoing within the government?

    Well, I'm convinced...
    Because the Media have so much more credibility.

    No wrongdoing anyway, POTUS has the authority.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...92420043157504


    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...98588201594880
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post

    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...92420043157504


    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...98588201594880
    No help here, try telling me how this actually relates to Trumps Diplomatic actions.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    https://twitter.com/danmericaCNN/sta...47264725938177
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post

    https://twitter.com/danmericaCNN/sta...47264725938177
    Dan Merica‏Verified account @danmericaCNN






    Deputy NSA Dina Powell to @Acosta: "This story is false. The president only discussed the common threats that both countries faced."
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post

    And your point is?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  23. #20
    Did Trump tell the Russians how the Obama administration created ISIL ?
    Do something Danke

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    Kicking and screaming.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
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    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    https://twitter.com/justinsink/statu...34428763168769
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  26. #23

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...97515248275456
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    So WaPo, who was not there and did not bother to talk to anyne who was there, reports.

    Considering WaPo's track record for reporting the most absurdly fake tabloid sensationalism (like Ron Paul and hundreds of libertarian sites are Russian agents) along with its openly partisan bent and perpetual cheer-leading for foreign interventions, reason dictates one must take anything WaPo says with a huge helping of healthy skepticism. WaPo has made it readily apparent that even Trumps interventionism is not interventionist enough for their likes. Such tabloidism serves only to distract from actual pressing issues.

    Gateway calls out WaPo on four major fake news stories in just the past week.

    Here's some additional tidbits:





    Now a return to actual issues of importance until the next WaPo tabloid distraction.
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    https://twitter.com/LisaDNews/status/864250328438460416
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    The way I see it, if people are po'd about Trump, then work harder to get Rand elected next time. Right?

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    Trump Aides Race to Contain Fallout From Report on Disclosure


    President Donald Trump’s top foreign policy advisers raced to contain political damage from a report that he revealed sensitive classified information to Russia’s top diplomat during a White House meeting last week.

    The president, already fending off questions about his firing of FBI Director James Comey amid an investigation of possible collusion by Trump associates in Russian interference with the U.S. election, faced a new controversy after the Washington Post reported that the president revealed to Russia’s foreign minister and ambassador closely held intelligence from a U.S. intelligence partner about an Islamic State plot.

    The White House released statements from Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster pushing back against the idea that Trump disclosed sensitive information.

    “During that exchange the nature of specific threats were discussed, but they did not discuss sources, methods or military operations,” Tillerson said in the statement. McMaster said, “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”

    According to the Post, the intelligence involved information about an Islamic State plot to use laptop computers as possible weapons aboard commercial aircraft and had been provided by a U.S. ally with access to the inner workings of the terrorist group. The newspaper cited unnamed current and former U.S. officials.

    The information was held by the U.S. at one of the highest classification levels that would typically prevent it from being shared even with allies, according to the Post. While Trump didn’t reveal the specific methods that developed the information, he described elements of a specific plot and the city in Islamic State’s territory where the threat was detected, the Post said.

    That specific information would be enough to jeopardize the sources, according to the intelligence official cited by the Post.

    The revelation may have additional impact for Trump because during his campaign against Democrat Hillary Clinton in the fall he repeatedly assailed her “careless” use of a private email system while secretary of state, a practice he argued could have exposed classified information. He claimed that made her unfit for the presidency. Surrogates at his campaign rallies led chants of “Lock Her Up.”

    Top lawmakers of both parties, while saying they weren’t able to confirm or deny the substance of the report, said it raised new questions about the administration.

    “The White House has got to do something soon to bring itself under control and in order,” Republican Senator Bob Corker, who is chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, told reporters at the Capitol. “Obviously they’re in a downward spiral right now and they’ve got to figure out a way to come to grips with all that’s happening.”

    Senator Jack Reed, the ranking Democrat on the Armed Services panel, said sharing information without the permission of a foreign intelligence partner “violates a cardinal rule” of dealing with friendly agencies.

    “If it’s accurate, it’s disturbing because it’s divulging information about operations in Syria which could be exploited not only by the Russians to interrupt intelligence operations that they feel are threatening to them,” Reed said.

    The intelligence involved may be behind the U.S. announcement on March 21 that electronic devices larger than smartphones would be banned from cabins on flights originating from 10 airports in the Middle East and Africa. The Department of Homeland Security has been considering expanding the restriction to flights from Europe.

    The president has broad authority to declassify information so it’s not likely he broke the law, according to the Post, even though he shared it with a U.S. adversary.

    Trump met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak one day after firing Comey, who was leading an investigation into possible collusion between Trump associates and Russian agents trying to interfere with the U.S. presidential election.

    Trump has denied any connection to Russia while also questioning the assessment of U.S. intelligence agencies that the government in Moscow directed a campaign of hacking and disinformation to disrupt the election.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...-on-disclosure
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  33. #29

    https://twitter.com/Carrasquillo/sta...60248038715392



    https://twitter.com/Carrasquillo/sta...60426049216512
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    https://twitter.com/Gogo_Usagi/statu...62986227003392
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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