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  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    I spent 27 months in Iraq. I fought in Fallujah, Baghdad, An Najaf, Karbala, and Mosul with the infantry. If you support Trump's move to send 5000 troops to Afghanistan, sign the $#@! up and go fight or STFU. Don't advocate sending my brothers to another MIC driven cluster$#@! so your cheeto jesus god emperor can 'fight the deep state'.
    LOL "Cheeto Jesus God Emperor"
    Where is John Galt?



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  3. #92
    What was the objective of this surge, how much it cost and hasthe objective been met? If not, how many more years will it take to reach the objective?

    In case any foreign intervention experts here.

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  5. #94
    2 U.S. troops killed in Afghanistan day after Pompeo visits

    June 26, 2019 / 1:50 AM / CBS/AP

    In a file photo taken July 7, 2018, U.S. Army soldiers look on as U.S. flag flies at a checkpoint during a patrol against ISIS militants at the Deh Bala district in Afghanistan's eastern province of Nangarhar. Getty Kabul, Afghanistan -- The U.S. military said two service members were killed Wednesday in Afghanistan, but did not offer any details surrounding the circumstances of their deaths. The killings occurred a day after U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo made a quick visit to the Afghan capital of Kabul where he said Washington was hopeful of a peace deal before Sept. 1.

    It's not clear if the deaths were the result of fighting in the war, which at nearly 18 years is America's longest running. The U.S. military statement announcing the killings was a terse two paragraph announcement that provided no detail on the circumstances. It said the identities of the soldiers would not be released until their families had been notified.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/afghani...er-2019-06-26/

  6. #95
    Afghanistan violence: Car bomb attack in Kabul kills 10 including 2 NATO troops


    • 5 September 2019

    A car bomb attack in the Afghan capital Kabul has killed at least 10 people and injured 40 others, officials say.
    The blast happened near a security checkpoint in a highly protected area close to embassies and government buildings.
    Taliban militants said they had carried out the attack.
    Kabul has been gripped by a surge in violence since the US and the Taliban reached an agreement in principle to bring an end to the war.
    As part of the deal with the militants, the US would withdraw 5,400 troops from Afghanistan within 20 weeks, according to US top negotiator Zalmay Khalilzad.
    The attack took place on a road near the Nato office and US embassy in the Kabul's heavily fortified Green Zone, and destroyed cars and nearby shops. The Taliban said they had targeted a convoy of foreign forces.

    Two of the victims were identified as members of the Nato-led mission in the country, Resolute Support - one from Romania, the other from the US. Earlier, a spokesman for the interior ministry said all victims were civilians.
    On Monday, a truck bomb exploded close to a compound housing foreigners killing at least 16 people and injuring more than 100, an attack that was also claimed by the Taliban.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-49592971

  7. #96
    Another irrelevant bump of old news to try and mislead people.
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  9. #97
    Great point, there is absolutely no connection here ; 5000 and 5400 are very different numbers.




    Afghanistan violence: Car bomb attack in Kabul kills 10 including 2 NATO troops
    5 September 2019

    As part of the deal with the militants, the US would withdraw 5,400 troops from Afghanistan within 20 weeks, according to US top negotiator Zalmay Khalilzad.


    And there is 2-3 years gap here, so this is wrong time to evaluate gains from all the American-Afghan lives/limbs lost and few hundred billions $s cost to US taxpayers due to these surges.

  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Great point, there is absolutely no connection here ; 5000 and 5400 are very different numbers.









    And there is 2-3 years gap here, so this is wrong time to evaluate gains from all the American-Afghan lives/limbs lost and few hundred billions $s cost to US taxpayers due to these surges.
    Trump already withdrew 7,000 so there is no connection here except that you are hoping that people won't notice that the headline is old and will think Trump is sending more troops instead of withdrawing.
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  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump already withdrew 7,000

    More lies. You have been corrected on this lie before.

    Trump Hasn't Ordered Afghan Troop Withdrawal, White House Says
    Donald Trump hasn’t ordered the Pentagon to withdraw troops from Afghanistan, a White House spokesman said, contradicting reports last week that he’s directed the military to pull 7,000 soldiers out of a conflict he’s long criticized.

    “The president has not made a determination to drawdown U.S. military presence in Afghanistan and he has not directed the Department of Defense to begin the process of withdrawing U.S. personnel from Afghanistan,” Garrett Marquis, a spokesman for the National Security Council, said in an emailed statement on Friday.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ite-house-says
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  12. #100
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
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    I don't hate you. You're just some person on the internet who believes in things that aren't real.

  13. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    More lies. You have been corrected on this lie before.

    Trump Hasn't Ordered Afghan Troop Withdrawal, White House Says


    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ite-house-says
    I did not find that information anywhere on this site so you are lying about my having been told.

    He did withdraw thousands though:

    Jan. 8, 2019 at 10:25 a.m. PST

    The U.S. military is drafting plans to withdraw a few thousand troops from Afghanistan while continuing all major missions in the longest war in American history, U.S. officials said, three weeks after President Trump sought options for a more drastic pullout.
    The planning is underway after Trump ordered the Pentagon to prepare the withdrawal of up to half of the roughly 14,000 U.S. troops deployed in Afghanistan, six officials said. The officials, who work in several parts of the government, spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the discussions.

    Trump still wants to remove troops from Afghanistan — eventually all of them — but the current withdrawal probably will be far fewer than 7,000, two senior White House officials said. Military advisers have convinced him that a smaller, and slower, withdrawal is best for now — although officials cautioned that a final decision had not been reached and that the president could order a full pullout at any moment.


    More at: https://beta.washingtonpost.com/worl...ffd_story.html



    And e_d is trying to trick people or he would have, posted in the withdrawal thread or started a new thread and referenced this one or at least made the comparison in his bump post instead of making up an excuse after being called on his misleading bump.
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  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He did withdraw thousands though:
    More lies, Wormtongue. Not that anyone is surprised by that by this point.

    You can't link to something that Trump said/says that he wants and expect anyone to believe that it actually happened or will happen.
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  16. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post


    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He did withdraw thousands though:
    More lies, Wormtongue. Not that anyone is surprised by that by this point.

    You can't link to something that Trump said/says that he wants and expect anyone to believe that it actually happened or will happen.
    MAGA intended to do so, that should count for something.



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  18. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    MAGA intended to do so, that should count for something.
    MAGA doesn't even have to pretend to do something to get his supporters to clap like seals; he just has to say that he's thinking about it.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
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  19. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    MAGA doesn't even have to pretend to do something to get his supporters to clap like seals; he just has to say that he's thinking about it.
    To be fair, only some of his supporters clap that way.

  20. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    To be fair, only some of his supporters clap that way.
    The fattest ones, because they can't get their hands any closer to their bodies than that.
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