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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/venezue...ing-1493995317

    Once Latin America’s richest country, Venezuela can no longer feed its people, hobbled by the nationalization of farms as well as price and currency controls

    Hordes of people, many with children in tow, rummage through garbage, an uncommon sight a year ago. People in the countryside pick farms clean at night, stealing everything from fruits hanging on trees to pumpkins on the ground, adding to the misery of farmers hurt by shortages of seed and fertilizer. Looters target food stores. Families padlock their refrigerators.

    Three in four Venezuelans said they had lost weight last year, an average of 19 pounds, according to the National Poll of Living Conditions, an annual study by social scientists. People here, in a mix of rage and humor, call it the Maduro diet after President Nicolás Maduro.
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    One headline - "Wanna Lose Weight? Move To Venezuela."

    This article is great - https://fee.org/articles/venezuelas-...ing-headlines/

    Venezuela's Socialist Hellscape, Captured in 28 Horrifying Headlines

    Daniel J. Mitchell
    Daniel J. Mitchell

    Monday, May 01, 2017


    Iwrote last year that Venezuela was entering the “fourth circle of statist hell.”

    How else, after all, can you describe a government that is so venal and incompetent that it resorts to confiscating toys in an effort to strengthen its hold on power?

    I also wrote last year that Atlas was “shrugging” in Venezuela.

    But shrugging may soon turn to shrugged. It’s hard to see how Maduro’s despotic regime can hold power much longer. Consider this collection of horrifying stories.

    More at link
    Last edited by undergroundrr; 05-07-2017 at 03:46 PM.
    We ask you to be so good as to pass a law requiring the closing of all windows, dormers, skylights, inside and outside shutters, curtains, casements, bull's-eyes, deadlights, and blinds — in short, all openings, holes, chinks, and fissures through which the light of the sun is wont to enter houses, to the detriment of the fair industries with which, we are proud to say, we have endowed the country, a country that cannot, without betraying ingratitude, abandon us today to so unequal a combat.

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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul.
    "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne
    "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    Sadly, the politicians of that state didn't think more about having more than just one industry for profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parasiticmoocherguy View Post
    Sadly, the politicians of that state didn't think more about having more than just one industry for profit.
    Why should they? Profit is for greedy narcissists, after all.

    According to you, the needs of parasitic moochers reign supreme.

    Venezuela embodies the ideal for which you yearn. Own it or STFU.
    "A free man must be able to endure it when his fellow men act and live otherwise than he considers proper. He must free himself from the habit, just as soon as something does not please him, of calling for the police." -- Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism (p. 55)

    "The evil that a man inflicts on his fellow man injures both - not only the one to whom it is done, but also the one who does it. Nothing corrupts a man so much as being an arm of the law and making men suffer. The lot of the subject is anxiety, a spirit of servility and fawning adulation; but the pharisaical self-righteousness, conceit, and arrogance of the master are no better. [...] The criminal has incurred the penalties of the law, but not the hate and sadism of the judge, the policeman, and the ever lynch-thirsty mob." -- Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism (p. 58) [bold emphasis added]

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    Aren't the sick piling into Brazil for healthcare?
    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster

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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul.
    "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne
    "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




    Reprinted from http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/ [Nov. 29, 2011]

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    You are stupid. All you think is somehow one commodity, that being the life blood of modern society is social democracy or socialist policies. Socialist policies are about taking the nastiness out of business, that goes unfettered in certain circles in capitalist society.

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Why should they? Profit is for greedy narcissists, after all.

    According to you, the needs of parasitic moochers reign supreme.

    Venezuela embodies the ideal for which you yearn. Own it or STFU.

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Republicanguy Parasiticmoocherguy again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Socialist policies are about taking the nastiness out of business, that goes unfettered in certain circles in capitalist society.


    capitalists being denastified
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." - H. L. Mencken

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    Are some people here just being fools. Seriously, how childish can be people be from the liberty side. I mean the Gary Johnson conference with other Liberty nuts was just to laugh at.

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    I am having a hard time picturing " liberty nuts " with Johnson . Probably , mostly anti war , peaceful stoners .
    Support CalExit .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Are some people here just being fools[?]
    Yes, those defending the Maduro regime.
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." - H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parasiticmoocherguy View Post
    You are stupid. All you think is somehow one commodity, that being the life blood of modern society is social democracy or socialist policies. Socialist policies are about taking the nastiness out of business, that goes unfettered in certain circles in capitalist society.
    Go tell it to all the Venezuelans who can't even get toilet paper to wipe their asses with.

    Then come back and yap at us about "one commodity" and the "nastiness" of capitalism ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Are some people here just being fools. Seriously, how childish can be people be from the liberty side. I mean the Gary Johnson conference with other Liberty nuts was just to laugh at.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Venezuela was run by a dictator who rallied the poor. He had a bad way of governing, and solely used crude oil to make money to pay for the social programs. It was short sighted. Don't be stupid, one country out there doesn't represent social democracy.

    Chavez came from poverty, both his parents were poor. He was ignorant about diversity in the state.

    As for the Libetarian conference, you couldn't defend it. It was ridiculous full of stupid people, who couldn't take people's lives seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Venezuela was run by a dictator who rallied the poor. He had a bad way of governing, and solely used crude oil to make money to pay for the social programs. It was short sighted. Don't be stupid, one country out there doesn't represent social democracy.

    Chavez came from poverty, both his parents were poor. He was ignorant about diversity in the state.
    The problem isn't that the economy the Venezuelan state attempts to centrally plan relies largely on oil.

    The problem is that the Venezuelan state attempts to centrally plan the economy at all.

    The result would have been the same had the Venezuelan economy been highly diversified.
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." - H. L. Mencken

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    Hm, total pop (2015) 31.1 million, cost to feed a refugee $19/month = $7.09 billion to feed all Venezuelans per year.

    Daughter of Hugo Chavez net worth, $4.2 billion, according to Diaro las Americas.
    Alejandro Andrade - Venezuela's ex treasury minister - $11.2 billion.
    The rest of the socialist leadership worth ??? billion?
    GDP in 2017: 404.1 Billion (Wikipedia)
    Exports: $28.07 billion. (Wikipedia)


    CAN'T FEED ITS OWN PEOPLE




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