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    Exclamation Cashless society getting closer, survey finds

    So it's not just idiot AmeriKans that are falling all over themselves to make the banksters richer, and subject themselves to a phenomenal level of surveillance and control because...well, I'm not quite sure why...convenience?



    Cashless society getting closer, survey finds

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-gl...-idUSKBN17S001

    Business News | Wed Apr 26, 2017 | 1:52pm EDT

    By Jeremy Gaunt | LONDON

    More than a third of Europeans and Americans would be happy to go without cash and rely on electronic forms of payment if they could, and at least 20 percent already pretty much do so, a study showed on Wednesday.

    The study, which was conducted in 13 European countries, the United States and Australia, also found that in many places where cash is most used, people are among the keenest to ditch it.

    Overall, 34 percent of respondents in Europe and 38 percent in the United States said they would be willing to go cash-free, according to the survey conducted by Ipsos for the ING bank website eZonomics.

    Twenty-one percent and 34 percent in Europe and the United States, respectively, said they already rarely use cash.

    The trend was also clear. More than half of the European respondents said they had used less cash in the past 12 months than previously and 78 percent said they expected to use it even less over the coming 12 months.

    Ian Bright, managing director of group research for ING wholesale banking, said he did not believe people would quit cash entirely, but the direction was obvious.

    "More and more people will end up with a situation where they can quite comfortably get by for two days, three days, four days, even a week, without ever using cash," he told Reuters Television.

    Payment systems such as contactless cards and mobile-phone digital wallets have become so prevalent the issue has become political in some countries.

    Cash-loving Germans, for example, have been concerned that a move by the European Central Bank to phase out the 500 euro note by the end of next year is the start of a slippery slope.

    Germany is one of the countries that uses cash the most. The ING survey showed only 10 percent of Germans saying they rarely use cash, compared, for example, with 33 percent and 35 percent, respectively, in neighbors Poland and France.

    The survey also showed that, in general, countries where cash is much in use were most likely to want to go cashless.

    Only 19 percent of Italians said they rarely used cash but 41 percent said they would be willing to go cash. There was a similar trend in Turkey, Romania, the Czech Republic, Spain and even Germany.
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    Hell, I paid cash for my new/used truck. 65 $100 dollar bills. I pulled them out of my floor safe. If you want my business you'll take my cash or I will go elsewhere. Likewise, if we do business I only accept cash. If you don't like it you can go elsewhere.

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    I've decided to go cash as much as possible. Frankly it's easier since I don't have to deal with reviewing a bunch of mundane purchases and making payments every month. Plus credit cards are specifically designed to make you spend more. If they didn't, what's the value proposition to accept them?
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    If only more people accepted bitcoin. I see the occasional vendor at a farmer market yet it is still rare. Cashless, can easily work on a smartphone, no banks involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    I've decided to go cash as much as possible. Frankly it's easier since I don't have to deal with reviewing a bunch of mundane purchases and making payments every month. Plus credit cards are specifically designed to make you spend more. If they didn't, what's the value proposition to accept them?
    I have only one credit card. It is a gas card. I pay in full every month. I checked my credit score about 2 months ago. 730. Not like I plan on borrowing or anything like that but I find it amusing. The only thing keeping me from a higher score is limited credit history.

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    I will give cash to merchants so they don't have to pay the credit card fee. I especially do this for owners with whom I know or have a good conversation. Screw the tax man. F*ck him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    So it's not just idiot AmeriKans that are falling all over themselves to make the banksters richer, and subject themselves to a phenomenal level of surveillance and control because...well, I'm not quite sure why...convenience?
    These same people put their entire lives on Facebook. So what do you expect them to do when they are given a choice between paying in cash and getting nothing back or using a credit card knowing the credit card company is going to provide a cash back check the following month or airlines points.

    They are effectively paying people to use their credit cards over cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    I will give cash to merchants so they don't have to pay the credit card fee. I especially do this for owners with whom I know or have a good conversation. Screw the tax man. F*ck him.
    Ive seen enough places, usually big businesses that have already started charging for paying in cash. Can anyone say CRAMMING? False advertising? If youre charged for every form of payment that can be made, then the prices listed are deceptive. Charged extra for making a payment by cash, check, online, over the phone, debit / credit card, money order, fish, doesnt matter, thieves demand to take what they want to take. Oh, and when was the last time anyone was able to "negotiate" a price on something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Ive seen enough places, usually big businesses that have already started charging for paying in cash. Can anyone say CRAMMING? False advertising? If youre charged for every form of payment that can be made, then the prices listed are deceptive. Charged extra for making a payment by cash, check, online, over the phone, debit / credit card, money order, fish, doesnt matter, thieves demand to take what they want to take. Oh, and when was the last time anyone was able to "negotiate" a price on something?
    I'm getting ready to start negotiations for a small horn anvil in the corner of a barn I'm being asked to fix up, haven't weighed it but I'd guess +80# looking at it. Didn't notice if it had hardie or pritchel hole. I got my eye it though and am open to negotiations.

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    Looks like the standard "poll", meant to influence opinion instead of report it.

    Though people are so economically ignorant that I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are accurate. "Eww, dirty cash? I can't give up my last toeholds of freedom fast enough!"

    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Ive seen enough places, usually big businesses that have already started charging for paying in cash.
    What? That's absurd. I haven't seen anything like that. Where are you seeing that?
    Last edited by devil21; 04-26-2017 at 09:25 PM.
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    I pay cash for everything really .
    Do something Danke

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    I would have said, twenty years ago, that government will force your hand and eliminate and criminalize cash.

    But now, with your fellow $#@! Amerikunts falling all over themselves to get rid of cash, government won't have to lift a finger.

    You'll be forced out of the market...

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Looks like the standard "poll", meant to influence opinion instead of report it.

    Though people are so economically ignorant that I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are accurate. "Eww, dirty cash? I can't give up my last toeholds of freedom fast enough!"



    What? That's absurd. I haven't seen anything like that. Where are you seeing that?
    Cell phone bill.

    I can kind of understand a $0.35 fee for using an ATM for purchases less than 5 or 10 bucks, but getting fined for paying in cash, yeah, I went with a different company.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    So there was supposed to be this big outdoor music festival that turned into a nightmare of poor planning, poor service and tickets that cost over a $100,000.

    Get a load of this paragraph:

    Fyre Festival, a Luxury Music Weekend, Crumbles in the Bahamas

    By JOE COSCARELLI and MELENA RYZIKAPRIL 28, 2017

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/28/a...amas.html?_r=0

    ...Taxis were hard to come by, in part because the festival had promoted itself as a cashless event, asking attendees to upload funds to digital wristbands instead. So people were stranded without money.


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    He has been talking about this for twenty-plus years...and everyone laughed.

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    Cashless society = retirement. I'm getting pretty close and I think planets are aligning.



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    This whole Fyre Festival thing is really turning out to be hilarious...

    Luxury ‘Fyre Festival’ in Bahamas Cancelled As Irate Fans Flee ‘FEMA Death Camp’

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywo...ma-death-camp/

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywo...usic-festival/

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    Bahama Death Camp . I like it . Good to see improvements over a lifetime .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    So there was supposed to be this big outdoor music festival that turned into a nightmare of poor planning, poor service and tickets that cost over a $100,000.

    Get a load of this paragraph:

    Fyre Festival, a Luxury Music Weekend, Crumbles in the Bahamas

    By JOE COSCARELLI and MELENA RYZIKAPRIL 28, 2017

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/28/a...amas.html?_r=0

    ...Taxis were hard to come by, in part because the festival had promoted itself as a cashless event, asking attendees to upload funds to digital wristbands instead. So people were stranded without money.

    That situation is hilarious. Was just reading about it. People were calling it the "Hunger Games for Rich People" lol. 100% scammed out of a boatload of money by a washed up rapper, thanks to a few tweets and $#@! from models and celebs that didn't even show up. Gotta love social media and cashless events! Sorry, no refunds.

    From PEOPLE article:
    Tickets for the so-called luxury festival ranged from $4,000 to $250,000, and models like Kendall Jenner, Bella Hadid and Emily Ratajkowski were big promoters of the event on their social media pages.
    Last edited by devil21; 04-29-2017 at 12:49 PM.
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    I have met supposedly full-grown adults who think that if I prefer to pay cash or bitcoin for something big-ticket I'm probably a drug dealer or something. SMFH. The conditioning of the masses into The Matrix is real, comrades.
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    But without cash, how can we buy dope?

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    That situation is hilarious. Was just reading about it. People were calling it the "Hunger Games for Rich People" lol. 100% scammed out of a boatload of money by a washed up rapper, thanks to a few tweets and $#@! from models and celebs that didn't even show up. Gotta love social media and cashless events! Sorry, no refunds.
    I can not think of any place I'd rather NOT be than on a sweltering desert island in the Bahamas, surrounded by whining millennials and being accosted by rap music.

    Nice object lesson in socialism: Lousy food, lousy infrastructure, lousy customer service, wildly overpriced, and equal misery for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I can not think of any place I'd rather NOT be than on a sweltering desert island in the Bahamas, surrounded by whining millennials and being accosted by rap music.

    Nice object lesson in socialism: Lousy food, lousy infrastructure, lousy customer service, wildly overpriced, and equal misery for all.
    I can think of one or two.. same event but in NYC during a blizzard or San Fran... queue the earthquake
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    Quote Originally Posted by opal View Post
    I can think of one or two.. same event but in NYC during a blizzard or San Fran... queue the earthquake
    You haven't had fun until you lived through/driven through a for real blizzard.



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    $#@!ing slaves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I can not think of any place I'd rather NOT be than on a sweltering desert island in the Bahamas, surrounded by whining millennials and being accosted by rap music.

    Nice object lesson in socialism: Lousy food, lousy infrastructure, lousy customer service, wildly overpriced, and equal misery for all.
    I don't generally mind millenials in a party atmosphere and I like old rap so if it was planned and executed well I'd probably enjoy it! For a time period TBD, at least.

    Your socialism comparison is well noted though. These idiots relied on others to do the right thing and that's where they $#@!ed up. A Woodstock was about bringing what you could and sharing voluntarily instead of relying on someone else to take fake money and provide the necessities through redistribution. No incentive to sustain yourself or fellow man when you only have imaginary skin in the game...until it's realized that numbers in a wristband won't feed you.

    It's so fitting that Amazon boxes were dropped off and they scrambled to take what they could use from them. If only they were delivered by drone!
    Last edited by devil21; 04-30-2017 at 12:13 AM.
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    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You haven't had fun until you lived through/driven through a for real blizzard.
    Oh.. btdt.. grew up in upstate NY.. not the city.. no likey the city
    Disclaimer: any post made after midnight and before 8AM is made before the coffee dip stick has come up to optomim level - expect some level of silliness,

    The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are out numbered by those who vote for a living !!!!!!!

  32. #28
    We use both. Most card transactions are amazon and my ejuice purchases though.

    Hell, I access my bank account by fingerprint on my phone and often use Samsung Pay at stores.

    Keep cash on hand for emergencies and small purchases.

  33. #29
    cashless allows for negative interests rates.

    you can always buy crypto currencies like Bitcoin or gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opal View Post
    Oh.. btdt.. grew up in upstate NY.. not the city.. no likey the city
    I did not know that...yup you have BTDT.

    I'm in my fifties and still much prefer the change of seasons, cold, snow and winter.

    I was just the opposite, BTDT in the tropics and Florida...endless summer liked to have driven me crazy.

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