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Thread: Government Shutdown Redux - a Trump v Ryan game of chicken

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    Government Shutdown Redux - a Trump v Ryan game of chicken

    APR 23, 2017 @ 07:00 AM
    A Government Shutdown This Week Will Depend On What Trump Considers A Win

    Stan Collender , CONTRIBUTOR

    A government shutdown won't happen this week because of a specific spending cut, tax hike or policy rider. The real, and perhaps only, issue will be Donald Trump's need to record a "win."

    Unless the House Freedom Caucus decides to blow up the process, Congress is most likely to send Trump a funding bill for the rest of fiscal 2017 that doesn't include any of the major policy changes he's suggested: no money for the wall, no defunding of Planned Parenthood, no additional appropriations for the Pentagon, nothing on sanctuary cities, no enhanced border enforcement, continued funding for Affordable Care Act subsidies, etc.

    ...

    The question is whether Trump will sign that bill and keep the government open, or veto it and shut Washington down?

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stancol...nsiders-a-win/
    It looks like the budget battle is brewing between Trump et al and Ryan Tillis Burr et al, and outlets like Forbes are preparing to lay the blame for an impending shutdown on the Freedom Caucus or Trump, and paint the establishment factions as the heroes in the battle against a government shutdown.

    Every third turn they are trying to lay the blame for something on the Freedom Caucus. This time though, what the FC wants seems well aligned with what elected Trump in the first place, so I imagine we will see if they are able to lean into the fire and gin up a firestorm for the good.

    "Paul Ryan - if you hate the majority of Americans so much as to give us nothing at all, then you are the ones shutting this government down, not us. We were elected to do a job, a job that you are not doing. Now either represent the American People, or step aside and let someone do it who will."
    http://glenbradley.net/share/aleksan...nitsyn_4-t.gif “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn



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    Shut it down, shut it down!

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    Jan2017
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    Shut it down, shut it down!
    "preparing to lay the blame for an impending shutdown on the Freedom Caucus or Trump, and paint the establishment factions
    as the heroes in the battle against a government shutdown."

    It could be the best way to seriously start draining the swamp . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    "preparing to lay the blame for an impending shutdown on the Freedom Caucus or Trump, and paint the establishment factions
    as the heroes in the battle against a government shutdown."

    It could be the best way to seriously start draining the swamp . . .
    It could certainly inspire some action in the form of kickback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    Shut it down, shut it down!
    Freeze accounts. Stop payments.

    reformat and reboot
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Freeze accounts. Stop payments.

    reformat and reboot

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    inb4 continuing resolution
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Freeze accounts. Stop payments.
    //
    "The Patriarch"

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    Nah we can go by history and it'll be Trump/Ryan vs HFC again. I don't think the support is fully behind HFC, at this point everything they're doing is straight principle.
    THE SQUAD of RPF
    1. enhanced_deficit - Paid Troll / John Bolton book promoter
    2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
    3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
    4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick

    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:

    Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.

    7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll

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    keep masturbating yourself to the thought of government shut down.

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    if shut down, would likely do a lot less damage... by all means, take a break.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Unless the House Freedom Caucus decides to blow up the process, Congress is most likely to send Trump a funding bill for the rest of fiscal 2017 that doesn't include any of the major policy changes he's suggested: no money for the wall, no defunding of Planned Parenthood
    Haha a Republican spending bill with a Republican president that doesn't defund PP. Can't wait to hear the excuses.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




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    I don't mind if the government gets shut down.



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