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    Okay, my dad died a few days ago. He was in the army for a time in teh 60s. Never was wounded or decorated or anything super special, AFAIK. I'm trying to figure out if Uncle Sam owes my mother and the family survivor's benefits. Webbernet searches are for suck in this department. Any help is appreciated. We're keeping the funeral small, but it would be nice to help mom pay her bills and whatnot if Uncle Sam owes us anyhoo. Thnx. ~hugs~
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    Not that people here would not know, but you might also want to post your question on Yahoo Military Answers. I visit and post there almost daily. See here: https://answers.yahoo.com/dir/index/...?sid=396545449.

    There are a lot of insulting people on there, but there are also some knowledgeable people. If needed, post your question more than once because the board questions don't bump.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    I do think that ID should be required for certain things like carrying a concealed weapon...




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    I am guessing you checked the VA: https://www.va.gov/opa/persona/dependent_survivor.asp. Guessing they just give basics and even stonewall in a lot of cases.

    I like NOLO because it's an authoritative source. If this site is not complete, then you could probably sit and look at this book in a book store. The free websites have the basics, but the NOLO books go a little more in-depth. Even at that, it's still often the basics. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encycloped...e-members.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I do think that ID should be required for certain things like carrying a concealed weapon...




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    Not much. A flag and maybe a few hundred dollars. Sorry about your Dad HB. RIP
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    First let me tell you that I am sorry for your loss HB. Specifics are generally important as certain benefits have changed through the years. If there is an American Legion Post in your area you should contact them. Members are mostly ex-military and knowledgeable in these matters.
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    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

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    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Okay, my dad died a few days ago. He was in the army for a time in teh 60s. Never was wounded or decorated or anything super special, AFAIK. I'm trying to figure out if Uncle Sam owes my mother and the family survivor's benefits. Webbernet searches are for suck in this department. Any help is appreciated. We're keeping the funeral small, but it would be nice to help mom pay her bills and whatnot if Uncle Sam owes us anyhoo. Thnx. ~hugs~
    I am sorry or the loss of your Father . Check at your local Legion or VFW and there may even be a VA Rep listed in the phonebook . They will normally provide a flag for the ceremony , a small grave marker.

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    Funerals are actually pretty expensive . Even a small life ins policy helps . If your Mother is going to owe after let us know and some of us might be able to chip in on the bill .

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    Also , notify social security for you Mother . They kick in like a 100 bucks or so on a one time basis for spousal funeral expenses .

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    Every VA has a patient advocate. The one here in Topeka is a great guy for finding info. The wife is partially disabled Air Force vet. I think the patient advocate is like former cavalry scout or something.

    Anyway, the patient advocates are the people who know the people you need to talk to if they don't have the info themselves.
    What now?

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    I'm very sorry to hear, HB. May his spirit soar.

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    I'm sorry about your father.

    It appears that it is all good advice given here.

    My dad was a vet from WW2 and died in the early '80's. My mom got a folded flag, a couple of hundred bucks towards a funeral, and a signed, "signed", or robosigned letter from Ronny Reagan.

    There are a couple of new veterans cemeteries in my area. I think admission is free.

    However, there is one caveat. Spouses are buried directly above the first occupant to save space and keep the rows straight.
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    Rest his soul. I'm sorry brother. I lost my father recently, also.

    To your question: Did your father retire out of the military (ie 20 years of service, medical retire, etc.)? If he did not and only served a term or two, he is still entitled to a military burial (meaning honor guard to present the flag, etc, not paying for funeral), but not much in terms of $$. There may be some benefits for things like serving in combat theaters like Vietnam, etc.

    I agree with the above posters that you should check with a local VFW, VA Advocate, etc. Here in AZ there are VFW's all over. Phoenix area has a couple VA offices, but I've had the most success at the VA clinic in Gilbert on Val Vista. They are very helpful and take time answering all your questions plus all the volunteers there are old WW2, Korean War, Vietnam War vets and pretty much know more than the staff.

    Hope this helps.

    And I would also be more than willing to donate were you to request assistance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    Rest his soul. I'm sorry brother. I lost my father recently, also.

    To your question: Did your father retire out of the military (ie 20 years of service, medical retire, etc.)? If he did not and only served a term or two, he is still entitled to a military burial (meaning honor guard to present the flag, etc, not paying for funeral), but not much in terms of $$. There may be some benefits for things like serving in combat theaters like Vietnam, etc.

    I agree with the above posters that you should check with a local VFW, VA Advocate, etc. Here in AZ there are VFW's all over. Phoenix area has a couple VA offices, but I've had the most success at the VA clinic in Gilbert on Val Vista. They are very helpful and take time answering all your questions plus all the volunteers there are old WW2, Korean War, Vietnam War vets and pretty much know more than the staff.

    Hope this helps.

    And I would also be more than willing to donate were you to request assistance.
    He got honorable discharge after he did his required time there. It wasn't a career for him. My mom seems to have things straightened out so far, but I'll let RPFs know if I need a chip-in or something. I was told we're planning on doing a cremation, so not a huge burial expense AFAIK.
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    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RPEphesians 6:12 (KJV)For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

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    I am so sorry for your loss. Call the VA. They will ask you to submit original copies of everything, so make sure you get extra copies of the death certificate, your mom and dad's marriage certificate, birth certificates, etc. that's thrnmost helpful thing I can offer.
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    *Hugs* to you HB. I'm so sorry for your loss.

    As others have said, there are decent resources to find out but you will need to find his DD214 (discharge papers) for specific to his service time, answers. If it's not in his papers, you can get his SS number and go on VA.gov to request a copy.
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