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    Woman pleads guilty in Davis mosque vandalism

    http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/cri...145520054.html

    Lauren Kirk-Coehlo pleaded guilty Wednesday to felony vandalism and hate crime enhancements for vandalizing the Davis Islamic Center in January.

    The Davis woman entered her plea in Yolo Superior Court in Woodland hours before she was to face a preliminary hearing on the charges related to the Jan. 22 incident.

    Kirk-Coehlo, 30, was arrested Feb. 14 on suspicion of breaking six of the Davis mosque’s windows, damaging several bicycles at the mosque and wrapping pork around the handle of one of the mosque’s exterior doors, Davis police said. Muslims are forbidden to eat or touch pork.

    “We welcome the plea. We hope this sends the message that committing hate crimes doesn’t pay off,” said Saad Sweilem, civil rights attorney for the Sacramento Valley chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. “For our community, it gives a lot of comfort that there are consequences to these actions and that we are being protected.”

    Kirk-Coehlo’s Woodland attorney Steven Sabbadini declined comment Wednesday, but prosecuting Yolo County Deputy District Attorney Ryan Couzens said Kirk-Coehlo’s desire to meet incendiary words with actions made her case particularly troubling for prosecutors.

    Couzens said that Kirk-Coehlo’ plea was “not a plea deal. It was not done with any promises from the district attorney or the court.”

    Kirk-Coehlo could face up to six years in state prison when she is sentenced June 16, Couzens said. The case now goes to Yolo County probation officials for a sentencing report.

    “She made very incendiary comments about wanting to do harm to various minority groups and showed a willingness to act on those desires in this case. Those facts are concerning,” Couzens said following the hearing. “The People will be arguing for a result that best protects the community.”

    Davis police in a February declaration filed with Yolo Superior Court said Kirk-Coehlo took to texts and social media to praise mass murderer Dylann Roof, sentenced to death in January for shooting dead nine black parishioners in a Charleston, S.C., church in June 2015; expressed her own desires to take multiple lives; and had written about her dreams of killing people.

    Davis police in the declaration said Kirk-Coehlo’s web searches included information on bomb vests, a Jan. 29 mosque attack in Quebec City in Canada that left six dead and wounded another 19 people, as well as searches of the Davis Islamic Center and a Woodland mosque, calling the unemployed UC Berkeley graduate “an immediate danger to the public.”



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    She committed property crimes by breaking the windows and damaging the bicycles... but wasting the bacon is the biggest crime of them all...

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    Bacon is a crime? I weep for this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fedupinmo View Post
    She committed property crimes by breaking the windows and damaging the bicycles... but wasting the bacon is the biggest crime of them all...

    This. The bacon wrapping made the cute headline, but she busted windows in a place of worship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Root View Post
    My butcher doesn't cater to diversity....


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    we don't have that section in our stores
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    I am against hate crime legislation as I am against thought crime.

    But it is obvious that the use of pork products was an act of purposeful hatred. Muslims, like Jews, have a religious objection to pork. Using it as a way to make Muslims and Jews unclean is a hateful act, like if I pissed on a cross.

    That said, the trespassing, property damage, and her talking about wanting to follow Roof in murdering black people are serious criminal and social issues that should be addressed.
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    Good. Now they can apply these standards to all of the leftists who vandalize and destroy property every weekend.

    Yeah, wishful thinking.
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    [QUOTE=PierzStyx;6456534]I am against hate crime legislation as I am against thought crime.

    But it is obvious that the use of pork products was an act of purposeful hatred. Muslims, like Jews, have a religious objection to pork. Using it as a way to make Muslims and Jews unclean is a hateful act, like if I pissed on a cross or left.

    That said, the trespassing, property damage, and her talking about wanting to follow Roof in murdering black people are serious criminal and social issues that should be addressed.[/QUOTE]

    Talking about isn't the same as doing. I talk about all kinds of things but I that doesn't mean I actually do anything. I agree with you, otherwise.
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    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    As others have said, the concept of a "hate crime" is nonsense, but she committed real crimes (vandalism) and should be prosecuted.

    ...and though a criminal's bigoted motives shouldn't play into sentencing, it's still worthy of reproach.

    These anti-Muslim people view themselves as The Resistance!™ to some nefarious Moos-lum plot...

    ...when they're actually just useful idiots for Miss Linzi and her associates, who really are a threat to civilization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Root View Post
    Yea, If I catch anyone doing the "piss of the Hadjj campaign", I would sucker punch said person in the head and give em a concussion before I call the cops on their sorry as*. There is no Hadjj campaign to get store and food places to sell Halal meat.

    Private people conducting their business in a private setting and you want to piss on them? oh no, not going to let you get away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Bacon is a crime? I weep for this country.
    Anything can be used to commit a crime, take a fresh fruits/flowers to a room of a patient getting radiation therapy on purpose and you could be arrested for it. And someone would say, flower,/fresh fruits is a crime?........

    Intent matters
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Yea, If I catch anyone doing the "piss of the Hadjj campaign", I would sucker punch said person in the head and give em a concussion before I call the cops on their sorry as*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Muslims are forbidden to eat or touch pork.
    Muslims choose to not eat or touch pork.
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    [QUOTE=Suzanimal;6456716]
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    I am against hate crime legislation as I am against thought crime.

    But it is obvious that the use of pork products was an act of purposeful hatred. Muslims, like Jews, have a religious objection to pork. Using it as a way to make Muslims and Jews unclean is a hateful act, like if I pissed on a cross or left.

    That said, the trespassing, property damage, and her talking about wanting to follow Roof in murdering black people are serious criminal and social issues that should be addressed.[/QUOTE]

    Talking about isn't the same as doing. I talk about all kinds of things but I that doesn't mean I actually do anything. I agree with you, otherwise.
    Someone threatening to murder a bunch of people may or may not be a crime (depending on the level of threat) but it is a serious social problem that should be addressed. Not by the government, but by us as a people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Anything can be used to commit a crime, take a fresh fruits/flowers to a room of a patient getting radiation therapy on purpose and you could be arrested for it. And someone would say, flower,/fresh fruits is a crime?........

    Intent matters
    [QUOTE=PierzStyx;6457557]
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post

    Someone threatening to murder a bunch of people may or may not be a crime (depending on the level of threat) but it is a serious social problem that should be addressed. Not by the government, but by us as a people.
    I understand that - I was just joking.
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    Hate Crimes are #FakeCrimes.

    Property crimes are real.

    But of course, as far as the State is concerned, there are no crimes against persons or property - there are only crimes against the State.

    Which is exactly why we get bull$#@! like this:
    Kirk-Coehlo could face up to six years in state prison when she is sentenced June 16, Couzens said.
    Full restitution and punitive damages would be perfectly adequate. A prison term of any length is entirely uncalled for.

    But the State doesn't give a damn about making victims whole. It only cares about feeding its own rapacious maw.

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    I don't know if that's supposed to be serious or not, but any $#@!s who actually do such a thing are begging for an ass-whipping - and though I wouldn't condone it, I'd not shed a tear if they got it ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    ...and though a criminal's bigoted motives shouldn't play into sentencing, it's still worthy of reproach.
    I don't have a problem with mitigating or aggravating factors being considered in sentencing. The violent bigotry exhibited by Lauren Kirk-Coehlo can be considered an aggravating factor. It should not be required to be considered, but it should not be prohibited from being considered, either.

    The problem I have is that it is not the local community that is deciding whether and how to apply those factors - it is "justice system" apparatchiks and automatons who are making such decisions (such as the "Yolo County probation officials" and their "sentencing reports" mentioned in the OP article).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Hate Crimes are #FakeCrimes.

    Property crimes are real.

    But of course, as far as the State is concerned, there are no crimes against persons or property - there are only crimes against the State.

    Which is exactly why we get bull$#@! like this:Full restitution and punitive damages would be perfectly adequate. A prison term of any length is entirely uncalled for.

    But the State doesn't give a damn about making victims whole. It only cares about feeding its own rapacious maw.



    I don't know if that's supposed to be serious or not, but any $#@!s who actually do such a thing are begging for an ass-whipping - and though I wouldn't condone it, I'd not shed a tear if they got it ...
    No, it's a joke, or at least it was intended to be one. Not my meme for sure.






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