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    'Microdosing' trend has Americans tuning in with psychedelics

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    After a litany of prescriptions failed to control her stormy mood swings and deep depression, writer Ayelet Waldman finally found relief in a blue vial of diluted LSD.
    Feeling she "had nothing to lose," the San Francisco Bay-area former federal public defender deposited two tiny drops of the psychedelic drug under her tongue—and soon felt her gloom subside.
    "I was starting to feel, frankly, suicidal," the 52-year-old told AFP. "If the other option is death—or at least, misery that feels like death—then there's no reason not to at least try something different."
    Waldman says she renewed her spirit by "microdosing," a modish—albeit illegal and potentially risky—trend that involves ingesting a nearly imperceptible portion of a psychedelic drug, often LSD or psilocybin mushrooms.
    The goal is not to hallucinate but to boost work performance and creativity—or, as was Waldman's case, treat a laundry list of ailments including mood disorders.
    "Within the first day I felt better," she said. "The depression was just gone—and that was astonishing."
    She credits her daily LSD regimen of some 10 micrograms of acid—about one-tenth of a full, far more kaleidoscopic hit—with improving her relationships and enhancing her work.
    "I would have access to 'that flow,'" she said, describing how subtle doses of LSD changed her writing habits. "Your mind moves swiftly but not erratically, with a kind of really delightful focus."
    Microdosing has gained traction outside drug-enthusiast circles in recent years, particularly among young professionals in California's Silicon Valley looking to dial up their careers.
    Its growing popularity has been ushered along by several influential US podcasts and most recently Waldman's latest book, "A Really Good Day: How Microdosing Made a Mega Difference in My Mood, My Marriage, and My Life," in which she details how psychedelics helped her get off the manic-depressive rollercoaster.
    'More in touch'
    LSD, or lysergic acid diethylamide, is a potent synthetic drug that gained notoriety in 1960s counterculture. In large doses it can induce hallucinations and drastically alter perception and cognitive functions for prolonged periods of time.
    Carl, whose name has been changed for fear of legal repercussions, works in media in Washington and told AFP he has microdosed with LSD at work some half dozen times in the past year.
    He said the tiny hits help him stay focused.
    "You've got more energy," the 29-year-old said. "The core of your consciousness is still there—you just might be a little bit more in touch."
    Oliver, whose name has also been changed, describes dropping microdoses as a "very mild euphoria—almost like anticipation of something good."
    The 25-year-old, who is also a media professional in the nation's capital, has taken recreational tabs of acid—which he said have run him about 10 dollars each—in addition to tiny doses.
    Rather than a full psychedelic experience, he said microdosing gives him "a slight sharpening of concentration, I think produced by the effect that LSD has of making everything feel textured and interesting."
    "I felt not on top of the world, but one percent more on top of the world than usual," he said. "Which kind of made me feel like I wanted to work."
    Oliver said he thinks of microdosing as "a cop-out way of doing psychedelics."
    "It's much less threatening," he said wryly. "And is less likely to like, cause temporary ego death, or make you spiral into soul-crushing confusion over the changing color of the sky."
    A legal gamble
    While microdosing has shown anecdotal medicinal and performance-enhancing promise, potential risks like long-term toxicity remain unclear, said Matthew Johnson, who studies drug abuse and addiction at Johns Hopkins University.
    Microdosing is "totally unstudied" for both funding and legal reasons, he told AFP: LSD was first criminalized in 1966 and in 1970 the US government grouped it, along with psilocybin, in the most legally restrictive category of substances alongside drugs like heroin and mescaline.
    That classification brought mid-century studies on using psychedelics as medicine to a standstill.
    Obvious hazards include ingesting street drugs cut with harmful substances or incorrectly controlling dosage, Johnson said.
    And because intended doses are so small, perceived positive impacts might actually be placebo effects.
    Still, he said microdosing warrants controlled study as "it's absolutely interesting and very plausible that there could be effects of cognitive enhancement and anti-depression."
    His own studies have yielded encouraging outcomes using psilocybin to help cancer patients manage anxiety and depression, or to help tobacco smokers quit.
    In general, he said, researchers focused on psychedelics say overregulation is hindering progress.
    The legal gamble ultimately dissuaded Waldman from continuing to microdose. She received her initial 30-day LSD supply from a friend of a friend—but procuring more proved nerve wracking.
    Drug penalties vary state by state, but are often similar to the federal ones: up to a year in jail and a $1000 fine for a first offense of LSD possession.
    As a former lawyer who has defended clients on drug charges, Waldman said she couldn't justify the risk.
    Until LSD is legalized—unlikely anytime soon—she said she probably won't microdose again.
    Unless, Waldman said, "I start to become suicidal again."
    "If it's a choice to die or commit a crime, I'll commit a crime."



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    It was originally developed and used in fighting addiction. and was quite effective in some hands.

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    It is no wonder that I was so mentally sound in my youth.

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    "It's much less threatening," he said wryly. "And is less likely to like, cause temporary ego death, or make you spiral into soul-crushing confusion over the changing color of the sky."


    Or, just spitballing here, spending a few hours with your brain in an underwater laboratory somewhere else while the noise at the end of the Dr Mario game over sequence is on loop in your ears, and you can't go to sleep because closing your eyes makes your whole existence shift into a bunch of geometric patterns.

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    Lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) was a drug of much promise in the 1950's. We're not talking about sugar cubes and blotter paper but pharmaceutical grade, synthesized LSD. According to Wikipedia, Time magazine published 6 positive reports on LSD between 1954 and 1959.

    It was being used as an aid to psychotherapy, an aid to treating alcoholism, and enhancing creativity.

    Bill Wilson, one of the co-founders of Alcoholics Anonymous, experimented extensively with LSD from the late 1950's to early 1960's. LSD's application within the 12-step program of AA was in breaking down the barriers to having a "spiritual awakening" and finding faith in a God of one's own understanding. As many AA's will say, "if you don't get the God part, you probably won't stay sober", LSD was enormously effective.
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    I've never been a fan. At least not of the synthesized kind. I found the experience superficial and the side-effects to be displeasurable.

    But mushrooms...

    Completely different story and completely different response from me!! I've heard people using mushrooms for the same purposes and I can totally get it. Those are some of nature's little miracles!
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    Haven't used LSD since 1970 but I'd give micro dosing it a try if I could find a good supply with little risk of being killed by the goons...
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    Morning glories can get you there organically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Morning glories can get you there organically.
    Morning glory seeds have LSA, not LSD, it's a little different.

    Also, when you buy morning glory seeds at the store, they coat them with poison to give you an upset stomach if you try to eat them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Morning glories can get you there organically.
    Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds have more LSA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds have more LSA.
    How available are they? Morning glory's are easy to grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    Haven't used LSD since 1970 but I'd give micro dosing it a try if I could find a good supply with little risk of being killed by the goons...
    80's for me.. but eyup.. but with someone.. did not appreciate not having a friend along with a similar mindset
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) was a drug of much promise in the 1950's. We're not talking about sugar cubes and blotter paper but pharmaceutical grade, synthesized LSD. According to Wikipedia, Time magazine published 6 positive reports on LSD between 1954 and 1959.

    It was being used as an aid to psychotherapy, an aid to treating alcoholism, and enhancing creativity.
    I thought that LSD was developed by the CIA both as a weapon against “public enemies” to make them suffer a psychotic episode so nobody will take them seriously and to make the population nice and docile.

    That’s what I concluded after reading John Marks “The Search for the Manchurian Candidate: The CIA and Mind Control” (1979): http://www.wanttoknow.info/mk/search...-candidate.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds have more LSA.
    that brings back memories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    I thought that LSD was developed by the CIA both as a weapon against “public enemies” to make them suffer a psychotic episode so nobody will take them seriously and to make the population nice and docile.

    That’s what I concluded after reading John Marks “The Search for the Manchurian Candidate: The CIA and Mind Control” (1979): http://www.wanttoknow.info/mk/search...-candidate.pdf

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    CIA did research with LSD,, but it failed to produce the desired results.

    SSRIs are more successful. and other (designer)drugs produced for other uses were developed.

    LSD frees minds..
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    I've never been a fan. At least not of the synthesized kind. I found the experience superficial and the side-effects to be displeasurable.

    But mushrooms...

    Completely different story and completely different response from me!! I've heard people using mushrooms for the same purposes and I can totally get it. Those are some of nature's little miracles!
    Mescaline is my psychedelic of choice.

    Been a long time now, but I recall a very pleasurable high with it.

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    My fav of all the drugs back in the day were the black beauties. Does anyone remember those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by navy-vet View Post
    My fav of all the drugs back in the day were the black beauties. Does anyone remember those?
    Yep! I always liked ups too...

    Psychedelics were for spiritual endeavors not partying....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Yep! I always liked ups too...

    Psychedelics were for spiritual endeavors not partying....
    Yep!
    Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Yep! I always liked ups too...

    Psychedelics were for spiritual endeavors not partying....
    Crank was "clean" back before the precursor chemicals were banned in the 80's and you ended up with this bathtub poison on the streets now.

    So why not have both?

    (Or so I figured at the time)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Mescaline is my psychedelic of choice.

    Been a long time now, but I recall a very pleasurable high with it.
    *sigh* late 70s' happiness right there

    Quote Originally Posted by navy-vet View Post
    My fav of all the drugs back in the day were the black beauties. Does anyone remember those?
    Not my faves.. caused things like scrubbing kitchen floors at 3am

    now.. ludes....
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    Quote Originally Posted by opal View Post
    *sigh* late 70s' happiness right there



    Not my faves.. caused things like scrubbing kitchen floors at 3am

    now.. ludes....
    ask Alice,,

    one pill makes you larger one pill makes you small,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Mescaline is my psychedelic of choice.
    Mescaline ..... it's the only way to fly.

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