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    Default Why you should NEVER EVER EVER buy software online

    Here's the story. One of my son's has become something of a gamer. He's gotten into team shooters like Smite and Paladin. He was trying to get one of his friends on his soccer team to try Paladin. His friend said "Only if you try Overwatch." Now, in retrospect, I should have told my son "That's one stupid friend. Paladin is free and Overwatch costs money. If he's not a complete $#@! then he should be willing to download and try out Paladin for free without expecting you to first shell out $50.00 to just try and see if you like Overwatch." But nooooo. As the guilt ridden divorced parent I am, I gave into his incessant whining. (Another mistake). He was like "I can pay you back" (and I'm going to make sure he does) "But I need to buy it online." I was like "They have it at Target. I've seen it there. We can just go buy it at the store." But noooooo. His impatient butt didn't want to wait. (I think Target was closed when we had this conversation, but I'm foggy on that.) So I'm like "Okay. He's going to pay me back anyway." So....I let him do it. Then later he told me he couldn't install it. When I checked out the graphics card on his laptop it's an Intel HD 4000. Overwatch requires an Intel HD 4500. (Good grief! What the hell kind of game just doesn't require the latest Direct X drivers? Another reason why I like Linux. Game developers should just code to OpenGL and be happy. Do I really need to see the hair coming out of the mole of the monster I just killed?) Sooooooo.....now I have to go through Blizzard "technical support" which makes you fill out the equivalent of a 1040 just to be able to get a web ticket to ask a simple question like "How do I either A) get my money back or B) install this on a different computer?" Seriously if their game is so freaking computer specific they should have a free demo version that doesn't do anything but check to see if your computer can actually run the damn thing. If we had gone to the store and bought the shrink wrapped DVD, I could have just tried to install it on a different computer. Or maybe I could sell it on Craigslist or something. Anyhow, in a few hours I'll be able to actually call customer support, instead of getting a "web ticket" and I'll probably be put on hold indefinitely and get someone who's third language is Engwrish. Bottom line is, never give in to the whining of a teenager.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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    I have never ever bought software online .
    Even Bigfoot supports Glen Bradley .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Bottom line is, never give in to the whining of a teenager.
    My whining 12 y/o starts out with "I neeeeed to earn X dollars..... If do my chores does that count as work for pay? "

    He might, maybe, slim chance, break the $5.00hr wage this summer if he'll actually work for an entire hour instead of trying to bill like a lawyer.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I have never ever bought software online .
    Smart man! I can't think of the last time I bought software period. Okay, I've bought a few Wii games but I mean software for a personal computer. There is so much free stuff out there. I will never again hearken to the whining of a teenager!
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I will never again hearken to the whining of a teenager!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    My whining 12 y/o starts out with "I neeeeed to earn X dollars..... If do my chores does that count as work for pay? "

    He might, maybe, slim chance, break the $5.00hr wage this summer if he'll actually work for an entire hour instead of trying to bill like a lawyer.....
    LOL. Actually I had come up with a way for him to pay me back. When my ex divorced me, she asked me "Aren't you lonely? Don't you want to take the dog." I was like "You ain't kicking me out and sticking me with the dog." For a while I left the dog with her and just kept it if she went out of town. But eventually I got sorry for the dog as she always kept it tied up, so I finally just kept it. For a few times after that she would let me leave the dog with her when I went out of town, but finally stopped claiming it was too much for her to walk the dog. Lately I've had to travel quite a bit because my dad's in the hospital. I thought "I can leave the dog with them, he can walk it, she won't have to do anything, and I can pay him what I would have paid my neighbor." But nooooooo.... Mind you this is the same woman that asked me to take them last summer to cut lawns so they could "earn money and learn responsibility" and I did it even though I ended up doing the lion's share of the work. Guess what ain't happening this summer? Oh, and he can bum the money off his mom to pay me back.

    /rant
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    LOL.

    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Oh, and he can bum my money off his mom to pay me back.

    /rant
    Here I helped.....

    You'll be lucky to get back even a small portion of the FRN's you give her.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Here I helped.....

    You'll be lucky to get back even a small portion of the FRN's you give her.....
    I don't give her any. Throughout the marriage she made more money than me. She's lucky I didn't hit her up for child support.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I don't give her any. Throughout the marriage she made more money than me. She's lucky I didn't hit her up for child support.
    You're lucky!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Here's the story. One of my son's has become something of a gamer. He's gotten into team shooters like Smite and Paladin. He was trying to get one of his friends on his soccer team to try Paladin. His friend said "Only if you try Overwatch." Now, in retrospect, I should have told my son "That's one stupid friend. Paladin is free and Overwatch costs money. If he's not a complete $#@! then he should be willing to download and try out Paladin for free without expecting you to first shell out $50.00 to just try and see if you like Overwatch." But nooooo. As the guilt ridden divorced parent I am, I gave into his incessant whining. (Another mistake). He was like "I can pay you back" (and I'm going to make sure he does) "But I need to buy it online." I was like "They have it at Target. I've seen it there. We can just go buy it at the store." But noooooo. His impatient butt didn't want to wait. (I think Target was closed when we had this conversation, but I'm foggy on that.) So I'm like "Okay. He's going to pay me back anyway." So....I let him do it. Then later he told me he couldn't install it. When I checked out the graphics card on his laptop it's an Intel HD 4000. Overwatch requires an Intel HD 4500. (Good grief! What the hell kind of game just doesn't require the latest Direct X drivers? Another reason why I like Linux. Game developers should just code to OpenGL and be happy. Do I really need to see the hair coming out of the mole of the monster I just killed?) Sooooooo.....now I have to go through Blizzard "technical support" which makes you fill out the equivalent of a 1040 just to be able to get a web ticket to ask a simple question like "How do I either A) get my money back or B) install this on a different computer?" Seriously if their game is so freaking computer specific they should have a free demo version that doesn't do anything but check to see if your computer can actually run the damn thing. If we had gone to the store and bought the shrink wrapped DVD, I could have just tried to install it on a different computer. Or maybe I could sell it on Craigslist or something. Anyhow, in a few hours I'll be able to actually call customer support, instead of getting a "web ticket" and I'll probably be put on hold indefinitely and get someone who's third language is Engwrish. Bottom line is, never give in to the whining of a teenager.
    Does he have Steam? That platform helps avoid hardware compatibility and other installation issues, though it doesn't have every game.
    I dont think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president, he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. Hes the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Does he have Steam? That platform helps avoid hardware compatibility and other installation issues, though it doesn't have every game.
    Steam for the win!

    TF2 baby!
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    I've never had a problem buying software online. But I also read spec sheets.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RPEphesians 6:12 (KJV)//I sell stuff here go buy nao! on ignore till 11/1-Natural Citizen

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Does he have Steam? That platform helps avoid hardware compatibility and other installation issues, though it doesn't have every game.
    Do you get a your FRN back when you return a game through steam or just steam credits?
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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    Trust principles; not people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Do you get a your FRN back when you return a game through steam or just steam credits?
    Either/or. As long as you haven't played it for more than 2 hours.

    http://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds
    I dont think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president, he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. Hes the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Does he have Steam? That platform helps avoid hardware compatibility and other installation issues, though it doesn't have every game.
    Yes but Overwatch isn't on Steam. It's on Blizzard. He told me he can download the game to my computer through his account so I'll let him do it. Then he asked me if he could have my computer. LOL.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Steam for the win!

    TF2 baby!
    I love TF2.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Smart man! I can't think of the last time I bought software period. Okay, I've bought a few Wii games but I mean software for a personal computer. There is so much free stuff out there. I will never again hearken to the whining of a teenager!
    Technically speaking I don't think you bought any software in this instance either; but rather you purchased a license to use some software..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Here's the story. One of my son's has become something of a gamer. He's gotten into team shooters like Smite and Paladin. He was trying to get one of his friends on his soccer team to try Paladin. His friend said "Only if you try Overwatch." Now, in retrospect, I should have told my son "That's one stupid friend. Paladin is free and Overwatch costs money. If he's not a complete $#@! then he should be willing to download and try out Paladin for free without expecting you to first shell out $50.00 to just try and see if you like Overwatch." But nooooo. As the guilt ridden divorced parent I am, I gave into his incessant whining. (Another mistake). He was like "I can pay you back" (and I'm going to make sure he does) "But I need to buy it online." I was like "They have it at Target. I've seen it there. We can just go buy it at the store." But noooooo. His impatient butt didn't want to wait. (I think Target was closed when we had this conversation, but I'm foggy on that.) So I'm like "Okay. He's going to pay me back anyway." So....I let him do it. Then later he told me he couldn't install it. When I checked out the graphics card on his laptop it's an Intel HD 4000. Overwatch requires an Intel HD 4500. (Good grief! What the hell kind of game just doesn't require the latest Direct X drivers? Another reason why I like Linux. Game developers should just code to OpenGL and be happy. Do I really need to see the hair coming out of the mole of the monster I just killed?) Sooooooo.....now I have to go through Blizzard "technical support" which makes you fill out the equivalent of a 1040 just to be able to get a web ticket to ask a simple question like "How do I either A) get my money back or B) install this on a different computer?" Seriously if their game is so freaking computer specific they should have a free demo version that doesn't do anything but check to see if your computer can actually run the damn thing. If we had gone to the store and bought the shrink wrapped DVD, I could have just tried to install it on a different computer. Or maybe I could sell it on Craigslist or something. Anyhow, in a few hours I'll be able to actually call customer support, instead of getting a "web ticket" and I'll probably be put on hold indefinitely and get someone who's third language is Engwrish. Bottom line is, never give in to the whining of a teenager.
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