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    Default Survey.. what departments to get rid of..

    get those clicking mice going... I'm in the first box - having an elimination party

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/reorganiz...ecutive-branch
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    (looking like a kid in a candy store...)
    BEWARE THE CULT OF "GOVERNMENT"

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    More power to you. I'm not going to go on a government site and present myself as a limited government extremist.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    More power to you. I'm not going to go on a government site and present myself as a limited government extremist.
    oh what the hell, sometimes I just can't help myself. I went ahead because there were fill in the boxes areas too. I suggested decentralizing the DC govt.. we have the tech to govern from home.. all elected officials can have offices in their own homes.. govt operated secure *cough* skype-like meetings, sessions.. and since they all insist on a minimum wage..they can have just that. If they want a staff.. lettem buy one themselves.
    Sell off all the offices vacated by non-constitutional "departments" and anywhere they are left with property, they pay the property tax equal or above what the locals pay for the same value property.
    Oh.. no expense accounts or free travel with the office either.
    The survey asked for benefits too.. so I went with cost savings, getting the elected officials back to the constituents they allegedly represent - sweeping the knees out of the lobbying business... and obeying the constitution.
    I think the only thing on the list that I didn't do anything with is the Smithsonian - but I didn't look into it's budget.
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    Well this is certainly not conducive to being done with a phone while driving.
    It is certainly progress that they are even asking this question.
    It would be greater progress if they offered select all checkboxes.
    It would be greatest progress if they didn't feel the need to ask.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opal View Post
    get those clicking mice going... I'm in the first box - having an elimination party

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/reorganiz...ecutive-branch

    Cannot comment anonymously.


    FAIL.

    "The fact is that the average man's love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty - and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies."
    -- H.L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by opal View Post
    get those clicking mice going... I'm in the first box - having an elimination party

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/reorganiz...ecutive-branch
    Yippie! Ctrl-A speeds up the process.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    (looking like a kid in a candy store...)
    LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    More power to you. I'm not going to go on a government site and present myself as a limited government extremist.
    Good point. I'm definitely not giving them my name, email, etc. In fact I may hold of and just do this at the library. You can get on a computer there anonymously. (Don't have to use your library card or anything).
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    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Cannot comment anonymously.


    FAIL.
    How to fill out the form anonymously.

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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Abolish Homeland Security first @opal
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    I see no reason that I should be the only one to suffer. And yes, I will one day exact my revenge upon those who exposed me to this toxic waste, for it is a crime against humanity.

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    Abolish Homeland Security first
    ... then the NSA, TSA, CIA, FBI, IRS, MIC (whew), the Fed, EPA... let's face it, ain't gonna happen.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Cannot comment anonymously.


    FAIL.
    What? No working net alias?

    I also noted in a box not for it, that first they ask for your personal info, then at the bottom they say to not include any identifying information. I think I either used the word fail or told them they need to make up their freekin' minds on that little bit - there was a lot of commenting when I did it.
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    I think every department is needed, or they wouldn't have created it in the first place.

    Without the Advisory Council on Historic Preservation, how would we know what Historical stuff should be preserved and etc?
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    I think it's pretty cool that we have a Japan-United States Friendship Commission.

    We should create Friendship Commissions for the other countries also.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    CIA is first on my list. Ofc, TPDB would just roll their current duties and employees into a different dept.

    A better question would be, what %age in budget cut would I like to see in Trump's first year. My answer is 15%
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    Trust principles; not people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opal View Post
    What? No working net alias?
    You can go that route, but there are problems with it. If "they" cannot verify the name given, your entry would likely be disregarded, not that it wouldn't anyway... that is, unless you chose "NONE" for all the appropriate entries and commented along the lines of "everything is perfect in the USA. God bless the government!"

    What would concern me far more is the possibility that somewhere in the United States Code, it has been declared a crime mala prohibita to make statements of this nature under a false alias. Insane as it sounds, I would not find it very surprising to discover that one could be charged with obstructing government investigations or operations in the event they used an alias. Let us not fail to bear in the center of our awarenesses that government universally declares itself perfect and supreme and that any attempt to deceive it is a crime worthy of the most draconian responses.

    "The fact is that the average man's love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty - and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies."
    -- H.L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    What would concern me far more is the possibility that somewhere in the United States Code, it has been declared a crime mala prohibita to make statements of this nature under a false alias. Insane as it sounds, I would not find it very surprising to discover that one could be charged with obstructing government investigations or operations in the event they used an alias. Let us not fail to bear in the center of our awarenesses that government universally declares itself perfect and supreme and that any attempt to deceive it is a crime worthy of the most draconian responses.
    You of all people should know that what the law is doesn't matter a whit to any of those people.
    If they want to take you down, they'll figure out a way.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    You of all people should know that what the law is doesn't matter a whit to any of those people.
    If they want to take you down, they'll figure out a way.
    Well, they created the feedback form for a reason. They obviously want to improve.

    As long as you don't submit obviously troll submissions like "eliminate all gov departments and give me my money back" or "get rid of the department that made this stupid form"
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opal View Post
    having an elimination party
    a/s/l?
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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    Department of Redundancy Department.
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Just for the record, 99% of the time I say "In my country........" I am actually messing with you people because I know you guys have absolutely no idea what happens in my country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    I see no reason that I should be the only one to suffer. And yes, I will one day exact my revenge upon those who exposed me to this toxic waste, for it is a crime against humanity.

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    How many people here think that Hillary Clinton would be asking the public for advice on which Federal Departments to eliminate?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    lol, why is there a Federal Dept. named after Barry Goldwater?

    In 40 years there better not be a federal department named after Ron Paul, unless it is the department on getting rid of other departments, or I will have a fit.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Please eliminate the Bureau of Land Management as soon as possible and pardon all those involved in the Bundy standoff and the eastern Oregon standoff. Public land management should be handled by the states.

    Federal encroachment onto grazing land has gotten completely out of hand. The BLM can burn down a half a million acres including private property without any recourse, but when a private property owner accidentally burns down a half acre of BLM land, improving the value of the land for them, in order to create a fire break to protect themselves from a fire that was started by lightning, they get terrorism charges and mandatory minimum of 5+ years in prison?

    We can't allow this kind of harassment against the people who work so hard to produce our delicious steaks.
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    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    How many people here think that Hillary Clinton would be asking the public for advice on which Federal Departments to eliminate?
    Hillary tries to con a different bunch than Trump.
    Quote Originally Posted by misterx View Post
    Yeah, I like cops. They keep the streets safe. Get over it.

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The Fed is NOT safe from audit, Trump has said he wants to audit the fed and we may have some bills coming up soon.

    Trump is helping Rand pass his healthcare plan, if you think Trump actually supported RyanCare then you are foolish and you need to go read the threads where I addressed this topic. Rand was talking to Trump 2-3 times a week, and Rand told Trump straight up it wasn't going to pass, it didn't have the votes. Trump knew it wasn't going to pass, so he supported it to make sure it was all Paul Ryan's failure and none of it could be blamed on him. Trump hates Paul Ryan.

    Trump is going to help save Syria, with Russia's help.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    It is not about brainwashing. You can support Trump for practical reasons. I think Danno is right about the Syria missile strikes helping Trump politically in the US. The media stopped talking about the sickening russian narrative. Proof again it was just a hoax to manipulate the public opinion.

    Trump made a good call as a politician. Libertarian souls can bitch all they want about principles and being conned. Trump is going to disappointed again. I have enough hairchest.

    Just answer the question. Which game is Trump playing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    a/s/l?
    uh..way back machine on the fritz there Tex? I haven't seen that question string since around 2003

    a - a lady never tells
    s - not right now, thanks
    l - earth, mostly

    or for the survey

    Agriculture
    SEC
    Labor
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    Quote Originally Posted by opal View Post

    a - a lady never tells
    Are saying Suzanimal is not a lady?
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Just for the record, 99% of the time I say "In my country........" I am actually messing with you people because I know you guys have absolutely no idea what happens in my country.

    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!


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    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of apportionment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

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    what departments to get rid of
    All of them, save Justice, State, and Defense (to be renamed War, in the interest of honesty)
    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

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    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "The monarch is a responsible person. The fact that a monarch is responsible "to God alone," rather than to an assembly or a popular majority, is rather shocking to an agnostic mind; but while God cannot be fooled, the masses can. While it is perhaps true that "one cannot fool all the people all the time," it seems one can fool millions for centuries."

    -Ibid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    a/s/l?
    46
    F (this morning)
    In my sun room on my laptop
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    I think it's pretty cool that we have a Japan-United States Friendship Commission.

    We should create Friendship Commissions for the other countries also.
    Agreed. I've been VERY friendly with a couple of Japanese girls.

    Sadly, it was not at the same time and no, they were not twins.

    AustinPowersFAIL.

    "The fact is that the average man's love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty - and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies."
    -- H.L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    How many people here think that Hillary Clinton would be asking the public for advice on which Federal Departments to eliminate?
    Obviously, she wouldn't.

    Unlike Trump, she wouldn't have any reason to foster such illusions, because:
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Hillary tries to con a different bunch than Trump.

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