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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    America did win that war. Anyone who says we lost that war is full of $#@!
    I'm kinda excited for WWIII. (self.teenagers)

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    Can't wait to go around and shoot motherfuckers like I did in battlefield one.
    I mean you can get shot to, but it's not that bad. If you're going through too much pain, you can commit suicide with a bullet to your head anytime you want.
    no more /all for me today.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I'm kinda excited for WWIII. (self.teenagers)

    submitted just now by ballstotheextreme to r/teenagers


    no more /all for me today.
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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul.
    "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
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    Washington's Aggression: A Threat to the World

    The war machine that is the United States of America, not content with threatening the world with its missile attack on a Syria airbase, not content with massing its forces around the Korean Peninsular and threatening to murder its leaders and massacre its people, not content with its escalating hostility towards Russia and China, decided the world needed one more demonstration of its power today, Thursday, April 13 by dropping its most powerful non-nuclear bomb on an Afghanistan saturated with its bombs. ...

    The news that ISIS is now in Afghanistan may surprise some. The US and others claim that elements of ISIS have “fled” into Afghanistan, from Iraq and Syria, ...

    In Afghanistan it seems the Americans either need a force to counter the Taliban forces that have succeeded in gaining some legitimacy internationally or they are just relabeling Afghan resistance forces as ISIS to try to justify their claim that their world mission is to eliminate ISIS. One could think that instead of fleeing into Afghanistan, the ISIS units, if they are really going there, are not fleeing but being sent there by the nation that claims to hunt them. ... ISIS now fills in for “communist” in the new American order ... How long will it be before they claim ISIS elements are operating in Russia and Iran and so the chase has to continue there as well?...

    this was the excuse the Americans have given for using the “mother of all bombs” for the first time in combat ... was this really just to hit a local guerrilla base or for something else, ... a demonstration to North Korea of the capacities of the US forces to destroy ... It was a warning; this is what is coming from the sky unless you obey our diktats ...

    It was also a demonstration to the Russians, Pakistanis and Chinese ... as they conduct their peace talks initiative with India, Iran and Afghanistan. The Americans have no interest in the success of that [peace] initiative. They want control of Afghanistan ... for the Americans, threats and violence are diplomacy. ...

    “It’s a weapon that justifies the use of the word “terrifying” to describe its power” ... You have to admire the turn of phrase “military initiative abroad” used for “military aggression against the world.” These propagandists are well schooled. ... “MOAB is thought to be the most fearsome explosive weapon in the Pentagon’s possession…” ...

    In fact this demonstration of their power is a demonstration of their fundamental weakness. This weapon is of no practical use in attacking any country with air defence systems ... We saw the American weakness again in the attack on Syria where less than half of the cruise missiles used reached the target. ... losing over half your weapon systems in a few minutes before they even get near the target is not a show of strength but a revelation of vulnerability ...

    International law is trampled under American army boots. The United Nations is reduced to a circus in which the Americans and British play destructive clowns. The governments of the NATO war alliance ... are members of a criminal conspiracy ... western news media are reduced to propaganda units ... they have become the fascists and relish the symbols of death, of slaughter, and all but worship war as our destiny and the death of others as a beautiful thing. ...

    the existential fact is the world is faced with a threat to its survival and that threat is the [the government of] United States of America.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul.
    "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne
    "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to AZJoe again.



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    http://news.antiwar.com/2017/04/19/u...-moab-bombing/

    US Troops Fighting ISIS Fighters at Site of MOAB Bombing
    Adds More Doubts That Massive Bombing Did Anything

    by Jason Ditz, April 19, 2017

    Last week, the US deployed the MOAB “Mother of All Bombs” in Afghanistan for the first time ever, dropping iit in a remote part of Afghanistan’s Nangarhar Province, supposedly against ISIS tunnels. Today, Pentagon officials confirmed that US ground troops are near the site of the bombing, still fighting ISIS forces.

    The MOAB is the largest non-nuclear bomb ever deployed by the US, but what it actually accomplished is unclear, as the Pentagon has not confirmed any death tolls, and is keeping the site off-limits. That there are still ISIS fighters there to fight against, however, suggests that the MOAB was far from decisive.

    Afghan officials have offered a pair of death tolls, initially claiming 36 and then revising it up to 96. ISIS is denying both, insisting that none of their fighters were actually killed in the bombing. No evidence has been offered of any death toll at any rate.

    US officials appear to be trying to shift the narrative on the use of MOAB away from Afghanistan, insisting instead that the strike sends a message about President Trump’s “resolve” to other US enemies, particularly North Korea. For the sake of “sending a message,” the fact that the strike appears not to have accomplished anything is very much beside the point.
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    Tally: 5 goat herders and 75 adult goat and 15 kids.

    Think of the baby goats Kids!
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    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

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    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Satellite Image of Bomb Aftermath


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_uilffuhZg


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZlDct1EYRM

    Aerial footage captures ‘mother of all bombs’ striking tunnel system in Achin

    Aerial footage released on Friday, captured an airstrike from the United States military that dropped the largest non-nuclear bomb ever used, nicknamed the ‘mother of all bombs,’
    on a militant tunnel system in the Achin district of Nangarhar province, close to the border with Pakistan on Thursday.

    The over 21,000 lb (10-tonne) GBU-43 bomb, or ‘MOAB’, was dropped by a MC-130 aircraft at around 19:00 local time (14:30 GMT).

    The strike reportedly killed 36 suspected militants aligned with the self-proclaimed Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) in the mountainous region.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...-system-achin/
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    What's next step for Trump's Afghan war strategy?


    Deadly "mother of all attacks on the Afghan military" shakes Afghan government

    At least 140 feared dead after Taliban attack

    6 hours ago
    The Taliban’s deadliest assault on a military base in Afghanistan has claimed more than 100 casualties, highlighting the militant group’s growing influence in the country. Sample the FT’s top stories for a week You select the topic, we deliver the news. Select topic Enter email address Invalid email By signing up you confirm that you have read and agree to the terms and conditions, cookie policy and privacy policy. Ten Taliban fighters disguised in army uniform drove into the Mazar-e-Sharif army base in northern Afghanistan on Friday during prayers, attacking soldiers in an area that is outside the Islamist group’s traditional southern strongholds. The attack comes just days after an American air strike killed nine members of the Taliban in northern Afghanistan and will be seen as a blow to the US-led campaign against militants. Earlier this month, the US dropped its largest non-nuclear bomb on Isis hideouts in a Taliban-controlled area in southern Afghanistan, in what was seen as a more aggressive policy from the Trump administration against Islamists of all types. Afghanistan’s President Ashraf Ghani declared a national day of mourning on Sunday and said he would investigate the “atrocious and barbarous” attack.

    The Taliban has proved resilient in the face of a 16-year war led by the US. Its influence has grown despite resistance from the US-backed Afghan army, more than 6,000 of whom died between January and November last year, according to an audit submitted to the US Congress in January. “The numbers of the Afghan security forces are decreasing, while both casualties and the number of districts under insurgent control or influence are increasing,” said the report from the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction. Mazar-e-Sharif is one of the Afghanistan army’s largest military bases in the northern part of the country, which has traditionally remained outside the influence of the Taliban. In July last year, former US President Barack Obama said he would delay the drawdown of troops from the country in response to what he called the “precarious” security situation.

    In February this year, General John Nicholson, commander of the US forces in Afghanistan, called for the US to commit several thousand more troops to the country to break the “stalemate” in the country. Western diplomats say the US and other countries with stakes in Afghanistan face the risk of a growing Taliban advance unless urgent measures are taken to bolster the country’s security apparatus. James Dorsey of the S Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore warned that the attack raised questions about whether there had been “inside help” for the Taliban attackers. “It certainly does not bode well for morale within the Afghan military and adds to doubts of its military to defeat the Taliban” he told the FT. “One question is whether Friday’s attack was the Taliban’s response to the US use of the ‘mother of all bombs’,” he said. “Friday’s attack looks like the mother of all attacks on the Afghan military.”

    https://www.ft.com/content/677e22cc-...8-168383da43b7



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    https://mises.org/blog/efficiency-pe...ants-4722-each

    Efficiency: Pentagon Big Bomb Killed Militants at $4,722 Each
    04/21/2017
    Dale Steinreich

    Renowned surreal fiction writer Franz Kafka would have had trouble conceiving of a more absurd plot than last week's dropping of a 30-foot, 22,000-pound conventional bomb on poverty-stricken, war-ravaged Afghanistan right before Good Friday which commemorates the Prince of Peace.

    The $170,000 GBU-43/B massive ordnance air blast bomb (MOAB, a.k.a., "mother of all bombs") was dropped on a network of caves where it annihilated everything within 1,000 yards including allegedly 36 ISIS fighters. This means that at least $4,722 was spent to kill each militant.

    Based on more than a decade of suspect figures from the US-controlled Afghan government, where dead hunters, farmers, and goat herders have been fudged as Taliban, al Qaeda, or ISIS fighters, the 36-casualities figure comes with major caveats, as a subsequent figure of 94 casualties warrants even more skepticism. No civilian casualties have been admitted so far, which seems unlikely given Afghanistan's hunter-gatherer-agrarian economy where even in the remotest areas, civilians are seldom far from clusters of militants.

    But this latest adventure in military central planning goes well beyond the usual brazen government waste and fudged numbers. Afghanistan's chapter of ISIS is a bizarre invented threat to the US. It consists of only about 700 members who are mostly former Taliban. Even more ironic, the cave complex that was bombed is situated in Nangarhar province, where the US CIA spent almost a decade and more than $3 billion (almost $6 billion in today's dollars) on arms, training, and fortifying/enlarging mountain cave and tunnel systems (the most famous being Tora Bora) for Osama bin Laden and his mujahedeen's use in its proxy war against the Soviets from 1979–1989.

    Did the Big Bomb Send a Message to the US's Enemies?

    Regnant speculation is that Donald Trump and the Pentagon were sending an intimidating message to North Korea, Iran, China, and Russia that the US is not to be tangled with. Skeptical military analysts dismiss this as nonsense. The unwieldy MOAB has to be delivered from a massive and slow aircraft such as a Lockeed MC-130 that would never survive significant penetration of the airspace of any nation with an adequate air force or air-defense system.

    "Afghanistan is a US military property not all that different from White Sands [New Mexico]. The whole operation was a massive public-relations fraud. They would have done taxpayers a huge favor burning $170,000 in a bonfire at White Sands," one analyst told me. "At least that would have assured no blowback," he added.

    How Military Central Planning Unwittingly Created ISIS

    The final irony of the MOAB bombing? ISIS. Its story begins with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who literally followed US troops into Iraq after their invasion in March of 2003. Taking full advantage of the US invasion's destruction of Iraq's social order, by August Zarqawi had not only set up Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad (JTJ) in Iraq but bombed the Jordanian embassy, Canal Hotel, and Shi'ite Imam Ali Mosque, killing a combined 125 people and maiming/injuring countless others.

    In October of the following year, JTJ changed its name to Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). This made sense since Zarqawi was a protégé/frenemy of former US ally and al Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden. Two years later, in October of 2006, AQI became the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI). In August of 2011, ISI helped form the al-Nusra Front in Syria. Finally, in April of 2013, al-Nusra and ISI combined into the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS). Thus ISIS was born, and scooping up US weapons, vehicles, and millions of dollars in CIA cash in attacks, robberies, and burglaries around Iraq, it became one of the most well-armed and financed terrorist organizations in the world.

    So here's the gist of MOAB: the US government dropped a $170,000 big bomb on dirt poor, destitute Afghanistan on militants living in a cave complex that it had originally helped construct to kill a tiny portion of a small, non-indigenous terrorist group that it had helped create 3,000 miles away in perhaps its greatest military blunder 14 years ago. And to top it all off, this pointless bombing was, according to US President Donald Trump, a rousing "successful job."

    Kafka would be proud.
    We ask you to be so good as to pass a law requiring the closing of all windows, dormers, skylights, inside and outside shutters, curtains, casements, bull's-eyes, deadlights, and blinds — in short, all openings, holes, chinks, and fissures through which the light of the sun is wont to enter houses, to the detriment of the fair industries with which, we are proud to say, we have endowed the country, a country that cannot, without betraying ingratitude, abandon us today to so unequal a combat.

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    The Mother of all Firecrackers...

    But Reuters photographs from the scene of the blast in Nangarhar province in eastern Afghanistan gave an ambiguous sense of the bomb’s power.

    Afghan special forces troops entered one of the caves used by suspected Isil fighters and found the tunnels apparently undamaged by the explosion.

    Trees immediately around the blast site had scorched branches and a few small houses were partially destroyed.

    But only a few hundred yards away other trees were perfectly intact and still had leaves on their branches, belying claims that the explosion may have sent a destructive blast wave for up to a mile, according to Reuters.
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...bs-blast-site/
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    The Mother of all Firecrackers...
    Stands to reason that the caves America built would be strong enough to withstand America's bombs.
    We ask you to be so good as to pass a law requiring the closing of all windows, dormers, skylights, inside and outside shutters, curtains, casements, bull's-eyes, deadlights, and blinds — in short, all openings, holes, chinks, and fissures through which the light of the sun is wont to enter houses, to the detriment of the fair industries with which, we are proud to say, we have endowed the country, a country that cannot, without betraying ingratitude, abandon us today to so unequal a combat.

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