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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    So?



    Don't join the service if it doesn't pay enough to make a phone call. Doesn't sound like a good job, anyway.
    This is an excellent point . When I was in it did not pay well. LOL



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    That is nasty attitude. It is just despicable the callousness on here. Beyond belief.

    I don't understand what motivates people with such a vile perception of how society should be. I get the point about one not needing to join a military, but the sad mindset about not having free contact years back is just sad. Those people fought or at least served their country. As much as I am a pacifist, service personnel at least deserved that.

    I read this comment on the Guardian newspaper.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...mment-98885437

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    That is nasty attitude. It is just despicable the callousness on here. Beyond belief.

    I don't understand what motivates people with such a vile perception of how society should be. I get the point about one not needing to join a military, but the sad mindset about not having free contact years back is just sad. Those people fought or at least served their country. As much as I am a pacifist, service personnel at least deserved that.

    I read this comment on the Guardian newspaper.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...mment-98885437

    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    You do know that you are a moron right?

    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Just for the record, 99% of the time I say "In my country........" I am actually messing with you people because I know you guys have absolutely no idea what happens in my country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    That is nasty attitude. It is just despicable the callousness on here. Beyond belief.

    I don't understand what motivates people with such a vile perception of how society should be.
    Paying for the likes of you is what fosters anger and resentment.

    That and paying for the government that insists on supporting the likes of you...

    Get a job and pay your own way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Paying for the likes of you is what fosters anger and resentment.

    That and paying for the government that insists on supporting the likes of you...

    Get a job and pay your own way!
    You are a fool. The whole world isn't me or my problem, or my lack of achievement. You seriously ignorant. I suggest you watch Jeremy Corbyn's campaign rally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    You are a fool. The whole world isn't me or my problem, or my lack of achievement. You seriously ignorant. I suggest you watch Jeremy Corbyn's campaign rally.
    Maybe som mour publik skol wud hep you..........

    Good grief!

    We've certainly got our share of wankers on this side of the pond but ya'll take the cake....

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    Watch his rally. Stop being a scrooge about society. Nothing good will be gained from it. You'll just end up being deleted. It isn't worth the misery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    You are a fool. The whole world isn't me or my problem, or my lack of achievement. You seriously ignorant. I suggest you watch Jeremy Corbyn's campaign rally.
    Shirley you jest.
    Quote Originally Posted by misterx View Post
    Yeah, I like cops. They keep the streets safe. Get over it.

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The Fed is NOT safe from audit, Trump has said he wants to audit the fed and we may have some bills coming up soon.

    Trump is helping Rand pass his healthcare plan, if you think Trump actually supported RyanCare then you are foolish and you need to go read the threads where I addressed this topic. Rand was talking to Trump 2-3 times a week, and Rand told Trump straight up it wasn't going to pass, it didn't have the votes. Trump knew it wasn't going to pass, so he supported it to make sure it was all Paul Ryan's failure and none of it could be blamed on him. Trump hates Paul Ryan.

    Trump is going to help save Syria, with Russia's help.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    It is not about brainwashing. You can support Trump for practical reasons. I think Danno is right about the Syria missile strikes helping Trump politically in the US. The media stopped talking about the sickening russian narrative. Proof again it was just a hoax to manipulate the public opinion.

    Trump made a good call as a politician. Libertarian souls can bitch all they want about principles and being conned. Trump is going to disappointed again. I have enough hairchest.

    Just answer the question. Which game is Trump playing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Do you work for the government?
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    You do know that you are a moron right?

    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Just for the record, 99% of the time I say "In my country........" I am actually messing with you people because I know you guys have absolutely no idea what happens in my country.

    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!


    Short Income Tax Video

    The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes

    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of apportionment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

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    In 2010, there were nineteen million claiming some form of welfare. Ending any and all, would be a disaster.

    Libertarianism is just an extremist dream. Nothing good will be gained from it. Only misery, poorer people, wealthier individuals. Some of you here are very deluded, and pretty nasty. You just have had some very nasty experiences and couldn't want more for the future, due to your bitterness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Do you work for the government?
    I could only wish. I don't have the education for a job role in any government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I could only wish. I don't have the education for a job role in any government.
    You don't have a pulse? A bot?

    whatever "education" you have received up 'till now seems to have made you the ideal government drone.
    Last edited by Danke; 05-19-2017 at 07:48 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    You do know that you are a moron right?

    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Just for the record, 99% of the time I say "In my country........" I am actually messing with you people because I know you guys have absolutely no idea what happens in my country.

    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!


    Short Income Tax Video

    The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes

    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of apportionment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I could only wish. I don't have the education for a job role in any government.
    I'm sure there's a role for you there somewhere. You have the perfect mindset.
    Quote Originally Posted by misterx View Post
    Yeah, I like cops. They keep the streets safe. Get over it.

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The Fed is NOT safe from audit, Trump has said he wants to audit the fed and we may have some bills coming up soon.

    Trump is helping Rand pass his healthcare plan, if you think Trump actually supported RyanCare then you are foolish and you need to go read the threads where I addressed this topic. Rand was talking to Trump 2-3 times a week, and Rand told Trump straight up it wasn't going to pass, it didn't have the votes. Trump knew it wasn't going to pass, so he supported it to make sure it was all Paul Ryan's failure and none of it could be blamed on him. Trump hates Paul Ryan.

    Trump is going to help save Syria, with Russia's help.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    It is not about brainwashing. You can support Trump for practical reasons. I think Danno is right about the Syria missile strikes helping Trump politically in the US. The media stopped talking about the sickening russian narrative. Proof again it was just a hoax to manipulate the public opinion.

    Trump made a good call as a politician. Libertarian souls can bitch all they want about principles and being conned. Trump is going to disappointed again. I have enough hairchest.

    Just answer the question. Which game is Trump playing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Watch his rally. Stop being a scrooge about society. Nothing good will be gained from it. You'll just end up being deleted. It isn't worth the misery.
    I'm not "watching" some socialist over there drone on...

    I have actual work to do, you know the kind that one gets paid for....

    "Deleted" Okay come on....

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    No, you people just don't want to see, health care, a welfare state to provide for those who are unemployed.

    Your attitude isn't popular is would be lead to chaos. Corporations not paying any tax, just dodging it, so the country doesn't get their money to help pay for infrastructure.

    Liberty the way those support here, I'm sure would be a disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    I'm not "watching" some socialist over there drone on...

    I have actual work to do, you know the kind that one gets paid for....

    "Deleted" Okay come on....
    Yeah and many do. That doesn't mean a welfare state shouldn't exist. Just because you want to pocket everything. That is greedy, just like people expecting tips. A wage that sustains, and if enough to pay tax, fine. But anything else is just pure nastiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Yeah and many do. That doesn't mean a welfare state shouldn't exist. Just because you want to pocket everything. That is greedy, just like people expecting tips. A wage that sustains, and if enough to pay tax, fine. But anything else is just pure nastiness.
    Go troll somewhere else.
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    You do know that you are a moron right?

    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Just for the record, 99% of the time I say "In my country........" I am actually messing with you people because I know you guys have absolutely no idea what happens in my country.

    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!


    Short Income Tax Video

    The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes

    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of apportionment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Yeah and many do. That doesn't mean a welfare state shouldn't exist. Just because you want to pocket everything. That is greedy, just like people expecting tips.
    So we shouldn't work hard to earn money and save it to feed, educate, and give our children a nice start in life and save so we can retire one day, we should give it to the government to redistribute?

    A wage that sustains, and if enough to pay tax, fine.
    You'd better hope like hell there are folks like us who earn enough to pay tax or your ass would starve.

    But anything else is just pure nastiness.
    I think it's pure nastiness of you to think you're entitled to anything I've worked hard for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    No, you people just don't want to see, health care, a welfare state to provide for those who are unemployed.

    Your attitude isn't popular is would be lead to chaos. Corporations not paying any tax, just dodging it, so the country doesn't get their money to help pay for infrastructure.

    Liberty the way those support here, I'm sure would be a disaster.
    1. Corporate taxes are only 11% of total tax receipts.


    2. Infrastructure spending is only 2% of all federal spending. If you eliminated corporate taxes it would have zero effect on infrastructure spending.

    3. Corporations don't pay taxes. People do. If you lowered the corporate tax rates to zero, that doesn't mean you would collect those taxes. If the corporate tax rate went to zero companies would either pay shareholders a dividend which would be taxed, they could reinvest and shareholders would pay a tax on increased capital gains, or they could pay their workers more and that money that would be taxed.


    There are people I genuinely have sympathy for. You are not one of those people. Giving you welfare is not an act of compassion. A kick in the ass would be an act of compassion. Western society tolerates underachievement, so you won't starve to death if you don't push yourself. But just for your own self-esteem. It is impossible for someone to be happy and to be leeching off the government. Here is a guy with no arms and no legs being productive. http://www.jamesaltucher.com/2017/05/jon-morrow/

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    Obviously we need a welfood state, and a wellshoes state, and a wellentertainment state, and a wellgulag state as well, because how could the market provide those?
    "I have a strong temperamental attachment to the meaning of words. In the age I find myself in, that condemns me to a daily dose of pain." - John Derbyshire
    "Give me control of the scientists' money supply and I care not who fakes the results."
    "I can find millions of 'social problems' such as: 'Too many red-headed people have hangnails'." - Murray Rothbard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    1. Corporate taxes are only 11% of total tax receipts.


    2. Infrastructure spending is only 2% of all federal spending. If you eliminated corporate taxes it would have zero effect on infrastructure spending.

    3. Corporations don't pay taxes. People do. If you lowered the corporate tax rates to zero, that doesn't mean you would collect those taxes. If the corporate tax rate went to zero companies would either pay shareholders a dividend which would be taxed, they could reinvest and shareholders would pay a tax on increased capital gains, or they could pay their workers more and that money that would be taxed.


    There are people I genuinely have sympathy for. You are not one of those people. Giving you welfare is not an act of compassion. A kick in the ass would be an act of compassion. Western society tolerates underachievement, so you won't starve to death if you don't push yourself. But just for your own self-esteem. It is impossible for someone to be happy and to be leeching off the government. Here is a guy with no arms and no legs being productive. http://www.jamesaltucher.com/2017/05/jon-morrow/

    yep, corporations don't pay taxes. Consumers, employees and stakeholders do.
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    You do know that you are a moron right?

    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Just for the record, 99% of the time I say "In my country........" I am actually messing with you people because I know you guys have absolutely no idea what happens in my country.

    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!


    Short Income Tax Video

    The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes

    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of apportionment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

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    I think his contribution to society is too large to be talked about in history books and that's ok because it's for a good cause. He sparked, in me, an angst and yearning to be free. His affect on me cannot be measured, but it is there. His voice on stage during debates, that the entire planet was watching, was heard. This is why he had fans all around the world. The average joe knew nothing of the federal reserve, the leading producer of human misery, and now they do. Ron Paul's affect upon the world is immeasurable due to its immense scale. And that's ok.
    Dishonest money makes for dishonest people.

    Andrew Napolitano, John Stossel. FOX News Liberty Infiltrators.


    Quote Originally Posted by Inkblots View Post
    Dr. Paul is living rent-free in the minds of the neocons, and for a fiscal conservative, free rent is always a good thing
    NOBP ≠ ABO

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    I don't know if the entire planet was watching, may be for his foreign policy mindset. Even people in my own country thought the Socialist party's leader of non intervention and peace was somehow a destruction of the UK.

    But ultimately, security has been measured by somebody in charge.

    As for domestic policy, Libertarian idea can't work. The only way in theory this could be tried, is if a new nation was formed with that belief that one is the sole provider for him or herself, that is the only way you so called Liberty nuts could try your experiment out. As for the world, it won't happen, I'm sure of it. Feel good reasons or not, people aren't that self centered for such a belief, it is too extreme.

    Cuba may of changed a little, but the communist party is finished. That was pretty poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parasiticmoocherguy View Post
    [... libertarians believe] that one is the sole provider for him or herself [...]
    neg-rep for being a mealy-mouthed liar - as well as a greedy narcissist who wants to steal from other people in order to get what he wants (or rather, who wants other people to steal what he wants for him, because he's a coward as well as a parasitic moocher ...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Liberty is just a myth.
    To you and billions of your fellow travelers, I'm quite sure it is.

    Such is the human condition.

    Those few of us with vision and foresight and the desire to see humanity reach it's fullest potential, to be something beyond a chess piece on some system of control's board, to have more than the crumbs off the Lord's table or a government dole "benefits" card, have had to fight and extinguish and shut up people like you since Moses' time.

    Every great leap forward that mankind has made, happened because, for a brief shining moment in history, people like you were beaten back and human liberty was allowed to root.

    Assuming I'm not talking to a sock puppet or "bot" of some kind, people like you, with a mindset like yours, foster the very worst in people, you amplify greed, envy, want, apathy, sly sneaking cunning and mental torpor.

    You preach that the end always justifies the means in the pursuit of getting "your fair share".

    And because of that, the world has had sit in the corner with a flaming dunce cap on its head on more than occasion as the stink of the dead reached to heaven...

    God damn you, and all you stand for and all your fellow travelers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    You'll just end up being deleted. It isn't worth the misery.
    I am not that easily deleted.

    I am a witness of the Crime.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    That is nasty attitude. It is just despicable the callousness on here. Beyond belief.

    I don't understand what motivates people with such a vile perception of how society should be. I get the point about one not needing to join a military, but the sad mindset about not having free contact years back is just sad. Those people fought or at least served their country. As much as I am a pacifist, service personnel at least deserved that.

    I read this comment on the Guardian newspaper.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...mment-98885437
    I served in the Army. I served 2 tours and 27 months in Iraq. The only phonecalls I made were from a journalist's sat phone she let us use, and from donated pre-paid phone cards with 'minutes' on them. They were donated by Americans, and not paid for by the tax payer. Don't presume to denigrate the people of these forums on behalf of 'those who served.' You are a coward.

    Please for the love of god, you are not here to educate yourself. You don't have the capacity to even begin to understand what rights are, where they come from, or the proper role of government.

    Take your goose-stepping-government-controls-everything bull$#@! back to the fringes of the progressive left where it belongs. Quit using up all our 1s and 0s here on RPF... a site dedicated to the principles of self-ownership, peace, and prosperity.
    There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
    -Major General Smedley Butler, USMC,
    Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Winner
    Author of, War is a Racket!

    It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours.
    - Diogenes of Sinope

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    To you and billions of your fellow travelers, I'm quite sure it is.

    Such is the human condition.

    Those few of us with vision and foresight and the desire to see humanity reach it's fullest potential, to be something beyond a chess piece on some system of control's board, to have more than the crumbs off the Lord's table or a government dole "benefits" card, have had to fight and extinguish and shut up people like you since Moses' time.

    Every great leap forward that mankind has made, happened because, for a brief shining moment in history, people like you were beaten back and human liberty was allowed to root.

    Assuming I'm not talking to a sock puppet or "bot" of some kind, people like you, with a mindset like yours, foster the very worst in people, you amplify greed, envy, want, apathy, sly sneaking cunning and mental torpor.

    You preach that the end always justifies the means in the pursuit of getting "your fair share".

    And because of that, the world has had sit in the corner with a flaming dunce cap on its head on more than occasion as the stink of the dead reached to heaven...

    God damn you, and all you stand for and all your fellow travelers.
    There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
    -Major General Smedley Butler, USMC,
    Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Winner
    Author of, War is a Racket!

    It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours.
    - Diogenes of Sinope

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