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    Question Didn't Mr. Paul just waste his time in government?

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    Isn't somewhat obvious that Mr Paul wasted his time in government? He took in a tax payer's wage right. He may of gave back his pension, because simply didn't need it.

    But overall his whole career as a liberty politician was a waste of his time, and money.



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    No. Since this site is here for you to troll he clearly didn't waste his time.
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    Dr. Paul you disrespectful commie..........

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    Now, don't be a zealot. Be critical.

    If a Libertarian got elected, I'd be stating my point.

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    It depends on how you measure success. If your goal is to free minds, help people learn about the dangers of the Federal Reserve, promote liberty and defend the Constitution, then no Dr Paul didn't waste his time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Hi,

    Isn't somewhat obvious that Mr Paul wasted his time in government? He took in a tax payer's wage right. He may of gave back his pension, because simply didn't need it.

    But overall his whole career as a liberty politician was a waste of his time, and money.
    Let's see....

    Dr. Paul inspired an entire generation. He pretty much started the TEA Party, got Liberty friendly people elected in countless state and local governments.... we have Rand Paul, Justin Amash, Thomas Massie, and others in US Gov...

    Ron Paul's contributions to human freedom will be felt for generations and history will look very kindly upon his works. You, on the other hand, are just a dumb internet troll with nothing to show for your failed life, so you come here to bash one of the last great statesmen. Go play in traffic.

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    No Rand isn't like his dad, he is more realistic.

    Typical ignorant response from a libertarian supporter, his idea of freedom is so long as I'm okay, nobody matters, and the poor they are lazy wasters.

    If Libertarianism did have some kind of meaning, surely local government would of had candidates. I think Libertarianism is just like the Communist belief, Mr Paul always went on about the Soviet empire, or Cuba having a failed system, well his system of try hasn't been accepted anywhere.

    I think business would just get away with what they could, and the poor a lot worse off.

    His non interventionist position about conflict reminds me of Jeremy Corbyn, the loony left politician as many see him. He only believed three wars were worth fighting, and one was the Spanish war. Poll ratings are 25% what they were when Mr Brown was leader of the party, and country seven years ago.

    And this rather serious, but sad, and amusing situation he found himself in just before the election he was going to lose.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTr8IVWBuPE


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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Hi,

    Isn't somewhat obvious that Mr Paul wasted his time in government? He took in a tax payer's wage right. He may of gave back his pension, because simply didn't need it.

    But overall his whole career as a liberty politician was a waste of his time, and money.
    I wasted my time worked for the govt , but no Dr Paul did not .

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    The state of the liberty movement might not be great right now, but it is certainly better than it was before Ron Paul ran.
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    Nope but you did posting this tripe.

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    Thank you for sharing your deep Concern of Mr Paul's free time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Hi,

    Isn't somewhat obvious that Mr Paul wasted his time in government? He took in a tax payer's wage right. He may of gave back his pension, because simply didn't need it.

    But overall his whole career as a liberty politician was a waste of his time, and money.
    Dr. Ron Paul changed my life and started me on the road to real education in politics and history. HE IS THE ONLY REAL STATESMAN IN MY LIFETIME.

    Since this is a Ron Paul forum, my advice to you is

    BEAT IT.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Hi,

    Isn't somewhat obvious that Mr Paul wasted his time in government? He took in a tax payer's wage right. He may of gave back his pension, because simply didn't need it.

    But overall his whole career as a liberty politician was a waste of his time, and money.
    It's Dr. Paul or Congressman Paul. Not sure if you are being intentionally disrespectful.


    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    No Rand isn't like his dad, he is more realistic.

    Typical ignorant response from a libertarian supporter, his idea of freedom is so long as I'm okay, nobody matters, and the poor they are lazy wasters.
    Your response is the one that is ignorant. Rand Paul wouldn't even have been elected to dog catcher if not for the support of the Ron Paul movement that his dad created by being "unrealistic." And ultimately Rand Paul's "pragmatism" caused him to do worse than his dad when he ran for president. Donald Trump ran as a radical, going on the Alex Jones show and Michael Savage show often, flirting with 9/11 Truth more than any other major political figure before or sense and have an "in your face", almost middle school bully attitude towards establishment republicans. In contrast Rand Paul avoided Alex Jones like AJ had Ebola, defended Mitch McConnell from the accurate charge of "liar" by Ted Cruz and generally played it safe. As a result, almost none of his dad's base was energized and some were energized for other politicians namely Donald Trump and Ted Cruz. And may of the college age demographic that might have jumped on a third Ron Paul run, instead went to Bernie Sanders. You couldn't be more clueless if you tried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Hi,

    Isn't somewhat obvious that Mr Paul wasted his time in government? He took in a tax payer's wage right. He may of gave back his pension, because simply didn't need it.

    But overall his whole career as a liberty politician was a waste of his time, and money.
    he represented his district with such distinction millions of people in other districts fell in love with him and petitioned him to run for higher office to represent them too.


    what a waste of time!


    Curious - what have you made of yourself thus far?

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    this entire premise is so odd.

    virtually nobody will reach the highest goal they have set for themselves.

    If that means you wasted your life - you need to rethink your outlook because that is flat out depressing

    Once you realize you will never reach the top what is the point going on?

    For me, it is simple. I enjoy the climb! I highly recommend you try to as well, otherwise you will eventually also realize you will never reach the top - and you might wonder what the point to all of this is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    this entire premise is so odd.

    virtually nobody will reach the highest goal they have set for themselves.

    If that means you wasted your life - you need to rethink your outlook because that is flat out depressing

    Once you realize you will never reach the top what is the point going on?

    For me, it is simple. I enjoy the climb! I highly recommend you try to as well, otherwise you will eventually also realize you will never reach the top - and you might wonder what the point to all of this is.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Hi,

    Isn't somewhat obvious that Mr Paul wasted his time in government? He took in a tax payer's wage right. He may of gave back his pension, because simply didn't need it.

    But overall his whole career as a liberty politician was a waste of his time, and money.
    I can't think of anyone who has come close to Ron Paul's contribution to the people. It's the other 500 or so that wasted their time.

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    I just think the whole liberty view is a cult. I think people are deluded.

    Nobody has gotten into local government. Until then, I think like Communism, libertarianism is the same, just opposite. The Russians won't vote in Communists. Then again, they don't really have fair free elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I just think the whole liberty view is a cult. I think people are deluded.

    Nobody has gotten into local government. Until then, I think like Communism, libertarianism is the same, just opposite. The Russians won't vote in Communists. Then again, they don't really have fair free elections.
    You always have the liberty to leave.

    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I just think the whole liberty view is a cult. I think people are deluded.

    Nobody has gotten into local government. Until then, I think like Communism, libertarianism is the same, just opposite. The Russians won't vote in Communists. Then again, they don't really have fair free elections.
    I challenge you to present your ideas and defend them. How is human freedom based on a measured understanding of human rights, a 'cult'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I just think the whole liberty view is a cult. I think people are deluded.

    Nobody has gotten into local government. Until then, I think like Communism, libertarianism is the same, just opposite. The Russians won't vote in Communists. Then again, they don't really have fair free elections.


    You must spread some Reputation around before neg repping Republicanguy again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    I can't think of anyone who has come close to Ron Paul's contribution to the people. It's the other 500 or so that wasted their time.
    Clearly, the OP is one that thinks that education is a waste of time.

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    Clover...

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    I'm here because of Dr Paul. I know many are here, because of Dr Paul - even the trolls.

    Stay a while, challenge us, and challenge yourself. Just as with Dr Paul, you may find your time well spent.

    That is, unless you disagree with me - in that case, pi$$ off you damn racist homophobe. Oh wait, wrong ideology... sorry.
    Don't drone me, bro!

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    No,

    There is no liberty country anywhere. You can't demonstrate one. For the least leftwing parties have proven some success, with center polices.

    The only people who are being trolls are those who can't demonstrate this, there is only one Libertarian in the congress, a former republican party member.

    In the UK, If many Labour politicians or hell even some Conservatives who said we will end the National Health service, they would not win their seats.

    I certainly could never go private health care. But if the NHS was dismantled, it would just be bad. A society with no security, and people fall in difficult or uncertain times, it would be just bad. Look at America, I mean its really awful in some places, those here I'm sure would rather not go on about.

    Yeah I guess the doctors are as generous as Mr Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I just think the whole liberty view is a cult. I think people are deluded.

    Nobody has gotten into local government. Until then, I think like Communism, libertarianism is the same, just opposite. The Russians won't vote in Communists. Then again, they don't really have fair free elections.
    And I think you look silly in your Socialist Uniform.

    Care to re-post that? others here may have missed it.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    No,

    There is no liberty country anywhere. You can't demonstrate one. For the least leftwing parties have proven some success, with center polices.
    True
    Centralized Government is the Error of Nimrod.

    Freedom is not found in government.. It is at the edges,, away from the centralization that freedom is found.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Kindly Don't feed the troll (could have sworn the zookeeper put up a sign, I'll check around for it )
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