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Considering it's one little island with 50-500 people living on it, it's not really a top priority...
...I'm mostly using them as an example to make a larger point.
But, yea, in principle I'd be for finding out what's going on there, and then intervening depending on what's found.
Do they have a murder rate 10x the average in India?
Do they eat people?
Do they sacrifice children to the coconut Gods, as fishy wondered?
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Well, the book's not available for free online, so I can't link you to it...
Here's an article with quotes from Pinker summarizing the data:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...e-of-violence/
As for wars, prehistoric peoples were far more murderous than states in percentages of the population killed in combat, Pinker told me: “On average, nonstate societies kill around 15 percent of their people in wars, whereas today’s states kill a few hundredths of a percent.” Pinker calculates that even in the murderous 20th century, about 40 million people died in war out of the approximately six billion people who lived, or 0.7 percent. Even if we include war-related deaths of citizens from disease, famine and genocide, that brings the death toll up to 180 million deaths, or about 3 percent.
So you think they are going to just stand by and let others tell them how to live their lives? Seems obvious from the video they are not going to be passive and submit to others stepping in and telling them how to live. They are going to fight and possibly to the last person.
Oh, I guess perhaps you believe it's okay though because we are right and they are wrong. That along with force will cure all their evils.
And people have sometimes asked about knowing the difference between good and evil and why eating the fruit in the garden was such a sin.
Seems one should step back and evaluate their own life and think about how they would like it if some outside force came to their country, planet, etc. and decided to tell them how to run their lives.
Alright, so I'm trying to figure out if this applies only to the Sentinelese or if this is a universal principle.
Do you think that every group should be "left alone" to live as they please?
If so, how do you define a group for this purpose?
Suppose 10% of the Sentinelese (say, the one's being eaten) would prefer to live differently...
...do they have a right to do so?
Are the other 90% (the one's eating them) intervening against them?
Is it majority vote, or what?
I know! Let's create a new government agency, one that will deal with this tribe and any discovered in the future.
"The Patriarch"
I never claimed they were eating each other.
As I said, no one knows what's going on there.
I'm speaking in hypotheticals.
Can you answer my questions?
Alright, so I'm trying to figure out if this applies only to the Sentinelese or if this is a universal principle.
Do you think that every group should be "left alone" to live as they please?
If so, how do you define a group for this purpose?
Suppose 10% of the Sentinelese (say, the one's being eaten) would prefer to live differently...
...do they have a right to do so?
Are the other 90% (the one's eating them) intervening against them?
Is it majority vote, or what?
Well, they don't conform to our values, and they don't have a western central bank, so we should immediately impose sanctions. Maybe Tom Cotton and Lindsey Graham can write a letter for all of the Senate to sign. A military option should not be taken off the table.
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My 0.02 FRNs:
If clear NAP violations are occurring, then it is permissible to forcibly intervene.
it is not, however, required to intervene - and any such intervention must be voluntary in nature on the part of the intervenors (e.g., it is not permitted to force others to materially assist the intervention, if they decline to do so).
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