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    How Socialism Ruined My Country

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    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

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    I doubt a Libertarian party would succeed there, after all its a selfish belief, based on a utopian ideal. That simply realistically couldn't work. Society would end up with children with nowhere to live who don't have parents.

    May be social democracy would work better for America.


    Funny, Mr Ron Paul was saying that the universe is 4.6 billion years old, yet couldn't say whether he believed in evolution back in 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I doubt a Libertarian party would succeed there, after all its a selfish belief, based on a utopian ideal. That simply realistically couldn't work. Society would end up with children with nowhere to live who don't have parents.

    May be social democracy would work better for America.


    Funny, Mr Ron Paul was saying that the universe is 4.6 billion years old, yet couldn't say whether he believed in evolution back in 2008.
    At least Obama and Hillary were more clear on their stance on gay marriage.

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    Mr Paul is an odd guy. I think deep down he plays the game that the candidates have had to play, people the mass as fools, but walk a careful line with the truth about facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I doubt a Libertarian party would succeed there, after all its a selfish belief, based on a utopian ideal. That simply realistically couldn't work. Society would end up with children with nowhere to live who don't have parents.

    May be social democracy would work better for America.
    Says the commie...

    Funny, Mr Ron Paul was saying that the universe is 4.6 billion years old, yet couldn't say whether he believed in evolution back in 2008.
    Who cares? And what has that got to do with the price of tea in China?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Mr Paul is an odd guy. I think deep down he plays the game that the candidates have had to play, people the mass as fools, but walk a careful line with the truth about facts.
    Putting it like this will not win you many friends here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Putting it like this will not win you many friends here.
    He's got 4 red bars, I don't think he's worried about winning friends. If we had trolls here, I would say he's a troll but since I have it on good authority we don't, I'm going with "special".
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    He's got 4 red bars, I don't think he's worried about winning friends. If we had trolls here, I would say he's a troll but since I have it on good authority we don't, I'm going with "special".
    Like special Zippy?



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    Social democracy is a step further from communism, at the end of the day Libertarianism is similar to the Communists as it is also a deluded belief. Living in a society where government has very little role, is not right, and having charity fork up isn't workable.

    My country has had a good health service here, and as much as there problems with it, I certainly don't want to return to a society without it. There is some kind of a Libertarian party here, but won't ever be elected. Fortunately the conservatives never chose the path to remove the health service. For those who can afford private health care here, well good for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I doubt a Libertarian party would succeed there, after all its a selfish belief, based on a utopian ideal.
    Is it not selfish to vote yourself a bigger paycheck and more benefits? Is it not utopian to expect those things to be paid for even if everyone expects that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Social democracy is a step further from communism, at the end of the day Libertarianism is similar to the Communists as it is also a deluded belief. Living in a society where government has very little role, is not right, and having charity fork up isn't workable.

    My country has had a good health service here, and as much as there problems with it, I certainly don't want to return to a society without it. There is some kind of a Libertarian party here, but won't ever be elected. Fortunately the conservatives never chose the path to remove the health service. For those who can afford private health care here, well good for them.
    Why don't they make healthcare 1/10 of what it is? Why does it have to be so expensive? Somebody's top line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    ... having charity fork up isn't workable.

    It works fine. A good percentage of US college budgets comes from charitable giving and foundations. Take away the government money and you just take away the fluff "social science" like "gender studies." What's left is a curriculum that actually aligns with substantial economic products and services.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    It works fine. A good percentage of US college budgets comes from charitable giving and foundations. Take away the government money and you just take away the fluff "social science" like "gender studies." What's left is a curriculum that actually aligns with substantial economic products and services.
    He doesn't get it.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...he-White-House

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Taxation is theft. Why does Republicanguy support thieves? Is he too cowardly to come and take it himself?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Social democracy is a step further from communism, at the end of the day Libertarianism is similar to the Communists as it is also a deluded belief. Living in a society where government has very little role, is not right, and having charity fork up isn't workable.

    My country has had a good health service here, and as much as there problems with it, I certainly don't want to return to a society without it. There is some kind of a Libertarian party here, but won't ever be elected. Fortunately the conservatives never chose the path to remove the health service. For those who can afford private health care here, well good for them.
    Love it when delusional statists try to tell me I'm delusional. The irony is delicious.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RP Support me on Patreon here Ephesians 6:12

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    Dammit, I accidentally + repped Republicanguy and I misspelled "is" in the comment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Social democracy is a step further from communism, at the end of the day Libertarianism is similar to the Communists as it is also a deluded belief. Living in a society where government has very little role, is not right, and having charity fork up isn't workable.

    My country has had a good health service here, and as much as there problems with it, I certainly don't want to return to a society without it. There is some kind of a Libertarian party here, but won't ever be elected. Fortunately the conservatives never chose the path to remove the health service. For those who can afford private health care here, well good for them.
    Not so. It was the case in Murica for a significant part of its history-yet Muricans have enjoyed a higher standard of living than the vast majority of humanity. C'mon, man. The evidence is overwhelmingly against you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RP Support me on Patreon here Ephesians 6:12

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Like special Zippy?
    Not exactly. Zippy has a job.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Not exactly. Zippy has a job.

    I'm not so sure about that. His facebook job status is that he "worked" somewhere (as in past tense). If so, it would explain his extra time on this forum.
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 03-31-2017 at 11:31 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Why does Republicanguy support thieves?

    Maybe "Republican" Guy is Abe Lincoln's ghost?




    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Dammit, I accidentally + repped Republicanguy and I misspelled "is" in the comment.

    Damn, I also hate when I do that.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Why don't they make healthcare 1/10 of what it is? Why does it have to be so expensive? Somebody's top line?
    Just outlaw scarcity.

    Problem solved

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I doubt a Libertarian party would succeed there, after all its a selfish belief, based on a utopian ideal. That simply realistically couldn't work. Society would end up with children with nowhere to live who don't have parents.

    May be social democracy would work better for America.
    My country has had a good health service here, and as much as there problems with it, I certainly don't want to return to a society without it. There is some kind of a Libertarian party here, but won't ever be elected. Fortunately the conservatives never chose the path to remove the health service. For those who can afford private health care here, well good for them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy
    Just how does socialism harm the poor? I live in social housing, discounted rent. Hell there is even a government employee who lives on the Council block I live on, and the benefit office is only down the road, a bit cushy, nobody can criticise somebody on welfare if they live in a social home.
    “Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.”

    Hard to see why the UK is a decaying mess that produces no innovation.

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    good video, but PragerU is evil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Social democracy is a step further from communism, at the end of the day Libertarianism is similar to the Communists as it is also a deluded belief. Living in a society where government has very little role, is not right, and having charity fork up isn't workable.

    My country has had a good health service here, and as much as there problems with it, I certainly don't want to return to a society without it. There is some kind of a Libertarian party here, but won't ever be elected. Fortunately the conservatives never chose the path to remove the health service. For those who can afford private health care here, well good for them.
    Is your country imperialist and has a history of being such? Let me know how state controlled services work in Venezuela, or Haiti, let alone Brazil.



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    Just this month changes have taken place here where the now former chancellor's new benefit changes are being enacted. Now only two children will be supported by benefit, no more. Now I understand that, I can't argue against it.

    No housing benefit claims for those twenty one and living alone, so not with family.

    Going to be tough for those in that situation. It is immoral. And you people talk about taxation being theft, well sure is, but we live in better times, this isn't 1917.

    Food stamps don't offer the unemployed any respect as an example, I thought this last month. That is wrong, cash payments should be available, not much, but just enough to survive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Mr Paul is an odd guy. I think deep down he plays the game that the candidates have had to play, people the mass as fools, but walk a careful line with the truth about facts.
    Ummm ... okay ... (just curious: is this your NHS-issued meds kicking in, or have you run out of them?)
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    • "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
      -- Government (p. 99)
    • "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
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    Last edited by Republicanguy; 04-04-2017 at 10:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Taxation is
    theft
    robbery. Why does Republicanguy support thieves? Is he too cowardly to come and take it himself?
    Fixed that fer'ye.
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.



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