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    How Trump Is Making America Great Again by Attacking the Freedom Caucus

    I am extremely pleased with President Trump. Truly, his accomplishments are more than I could ever have imagined and we are only a few months in!

    Trump has nominated a fantastic(ish) Supreme Court Nominee. He has exposed the Corporate Press as BS propaganda to even the lowest IQ blue-pilled sheep. He has exposed the Intellegence Agencies (CIA/NSA) as enemies of the American People. He had exposed the danger of surveillance and intercepts to those seeking political office. He has claimed to be one of us, "red-blooded" American patriots. [See Note]

    Then Trump turned to Obamacare.

    Healthcare is a hot button issue for Obamacare-hating-on-the-campaign-trail Republicans. Speaker Ryan rolls out a secret bill and Trump throws his support, and his Twitter account, behind it.

    Up until the last few days, I believed Trump was "playing" (queue rope/hang himself metaphor) Ryan and would call for his resignation after the obvious debacle of "Ryancare".

    This would have been a good move on Trumps part (by solidifying his conservative support) and a win for liberty by getting the gavel from the snake they call Ryan.

    Alas, this did not materialize. Instead, Trump turned on the Freedom Caucus and, in the process, did the only thing that could sink him. He attacked Constitutionalist's because they defied him in defense of the Constitution. Trump has just turned the Freedom Caucus into his enemy and accidentally into national heros. Including heros of Breitbart and Trump's own base!

    This guy really is the gift that keeps on giving.

    The Freedom Caucus are showing themselves to be the "rebellious" (yet) principled adults in Congress. Instead of the Freedom Caucus losing seats in 2018, look for Republican candidates to run on their desire to join the Freedom Caucus. The Freedom Caucus will grow much larger if they agree with Trump when he is right and stand together in opposition when he is wrong.

    Can the Freedom Caucus carry on the R3volution?

    2018 is a glorious opportunity to make the narrative: The Patriots of the Freedom Caucus are the True Champions of the People and their Natural Born Rights.

    You might be skeptical, but all the grassroots Liberty Movement needs to do is to mobilize with this message and WILL it into reality.

    Thank you President Trump and keep up the good work!

    Note: The real three branches of government are the Fed, the CIA & the Corporate Press. Weakening two out of three ain't bad. It would be fantastic if Trump signed Audit the Fed but I won't hold my breath.
    Last edited by Gumba of Liberty; 03-31-2017 at 04:07 PM.



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    My recommendation is wait a week or two, and see if this is still an issue. In all likelihood it will be totally off our radar by then, we will be focused on something else, and the freedom caucus will be doing just fine. In fact, they may end up with even more donations and more funding from this.

    I think Trump has something up his sleeve here. Just a few days ago he was saying how they were great friends.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Wait until it's off your radar, then see how you feel about it.

    How quaint.

    The ADHD School of Civic Responsibility. 'To arms! The British are coming! Oh, wait! A chicken!!'
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    He already is. (Hence my post)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post

    Is that the guy who does all your postings 18 hours a day?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Excellent thread. Would read again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Wait until it's off your radar, then see how you feel about it.

    How quaint.

    The ADHD School of Civic Responsibility. 'To arms! The British are coming! Oh, wait! A chicken!!'
    That's not what I said.

    People tend to freak out over every little thing, and a few days later it doesn't even matter.

    The fact is Trump doesn't operate in a straightforward manner, he keeps people guessing, that's part of his whole persona. If you think you have him pinned, great, but you basically are spewing the same crap as the mainstream media and I don't buy it, it's just not convincing.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Yes, Trump outing himself (yet again..) as an enemy of liberty is a great boon for us.

    Conservatives are soon going to be in open revolt, as they were at the end of the Bush administration.

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    Trump attacking Freedom Caucus reminds me of this.
    USE THIS SITE TO LINK ARTICLES FROM OLIGARCH MEDIA:http://archive.is/ STARVE THE BEAST.
    More Government = Less Freedom
    Communism never disappeared it only changed its name to Social Democrat
    Emotion and Logic mix like oil and water

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    And this,
    USE THIS SITE TO LINK ARTICLES FROM OLIGARCH MEDIA:http://archive.is/ STARVE THE BEAST.
    More Government = Less Freedom
    Communism never disappeared it only changed its name to Social Democrat
    Emotion and Logic mix like oil and water

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I think Trump has something up his sleeve here.
    An extra hair gel?

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    Finally this,
    USE THIS SITE TO LINK ARTICLES FROM OLIGARCH MEDIA:http://archive.is/ STARVE THE BEAST.
    More Government = Less Freedom
    Communism never disappeared it only changed its name to Social Democrat
    Emotion and Logic mix like oil and water

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    That's not what I said.

    People tend to freak out over every little thing, and a few days later it doesn't even matter.

    The fact is Trump doesn't operate in a straightforward manner, he keeps people guessing, that's part of his whole persona. If you think you have him pinned, great, but you basically are spewing the same crap as the mainstream media and I don't buy it, it's just not convincing.
    Could you calm down a bit? It is such a nice evening. How many things with TRUMP brand on them do you own?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seapilot View Post
    Finally this,
    Who that person would be? His wounds seem to be self inflicted.



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    Quote Originally Posted by seapilot View Post
    Finally this,
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to seapilot again.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumba of Liberty View Post
    I am extremely pleased with President Trump. Truly, his accomplishments are more than I could ever have imagined and we are only a few months in!

    Trump has nominated a fantastic(ish) Supreme Court Nominee. He has exposed the Corporate Press as BS propaganda to even the lowest IQ blue-pilled sheep. He has exposed the Intellegence Agencies (CIA/NSA) as enemies of the American People. He had exposed the danger of surveillance and intercepts to those seeking political office. He has claimed to be one of us, "red-blooded" American patriots. [See Note]

    Then Trump turned to Obamacare.

    Healthcare is a hot button issue for Obamacare-hating-on-the-campaign-trail Republicans. Speaker Ryan rolls out a secret bill and Trump throws his support, and his Twitter account, behind it.

    Up until the last few days, I believed Trump was "playing" (queue rope/hang himself metaphor) Ryan and would call for his resignation after the obvious debacle of "Ryancare".

    This would have been a good move on Trumps part (by solidifying his conservative support) and a win for liberty by getting the gavel from the snake they call Ryan.

    Alas, this did not materialize. Instead, Trump turned on the Freedom Caucus and, in the process, did the only thing that could sink him. He attacked Constitutionalist's because they defied him in defense of the Constitution. Trump has just turned the Freedom Caucus into his enemy and accidentally into national heros. Including heros of Breitbart and Trump's own base!

    This guy really is the gift that keeps on giving.

    The Freedom Caucus are showing themselves to be the "rebellious" (yet) principled adults in Congress. Instead of the Freedom Caucus losing seats in 2018, look for Republican candidates to run on their desire to join the Freedom Caucus. The Freedom Caucus will grow much larger if they agree with Trump when he is right and stand together in opposition when he is wrong.

    Can the Freedom Caucus carry on the R3volution?

    2018 is a glorious opportunity to make the narrative: The Patriots of the Freedom Caucus are the True Champions of the People and their Natural Born Rights.

    You might be skeptical, but all the grassroots Liberty Movement needs to do is to mobilize with this message and WILL it into reality.

    Thank you President Trump and keep up the good work!

    Note: The real three branches of government are the Fed, the CIA & the Corporate Press. Weakening two out of three ain't bad. It would be fantastic if Trump signed Audit the Fed but I won't hold my breath.
    And ^this is the best post I've seen recently. Rather than doing mental gymnastics hoping Trump really didn't mean what he tweeted, take it at face value as a call to arms. If Trump double crosses Ryan good. It doesn't matter if that was his plan all along or if the backlash forces his hand. The result is the same. If Trump doesn't double cross Ryan but keeps double crossing the Freedom Caucus and the Freedom Caucus gets the upper hand because the backlash rallies the troops then good. The only possible negative result is if Trump continues to attack the Freedom Caucus and there isn't sufficient backlash from that move.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Did he talk to Rand after sending this tweet?

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    This is a quote from another forum where political talk is pretty much cavemanish but it's very accurate:

    Trump is a showman. He accents the positive in everything he does including failures which he never admits, trumpeting them as success. He promised to undo Obamacare and he will take anything he can to pass off as doing so. The bill failed and he needs someone to blame and he does not care who.
    He wins at all he does, that is his story and he is sticking to it. He would ruthlessly use the Repubs, the Democrats, the UN, the Girl Scouts and even members of this board to get what he wants and throw them in the ditch at the first moment it suited him.
    He is a deal maker who will make whatever deal he can to get whatever he wants and owes nothing to the traditional halls of power in DC. Anti-socialists, conservatives, capitalists and constitutionalist can make great advancements with him but need to understand that he is not fixed to any party or politics beyond what makes him a 'winner'.

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    ^^^Sounds about right.

    Thing is, you can say that about most any politician.

    ...totally amoral, just interested in "winning" (election, reelection, name in paper, invites to the right parties, etc).

    And that's why the state keeps growing; that's the path of least resistance for the ambitious.

    To shrink the state requires people willing to fight, and lose.

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    The only possible negative result is if Trump continues to attack the Freedom Caucus and there isn't sufficient backlash from that move.
    That's what I said, Massie and Amash are absolutely doing the right thing by fighting back and standing up for their beliefs, there is no question about that.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumba of Liberty View Post
    I am extremely pleased with President Trump. Truly, his accomplishments are more than I could ever have imagined and we are only a few months in!

    Trump has nominated a fantastic(ish) Supreme Court Nominee. He has exposed the Corporate Press as BS propaganda to even the lowest IQ blue-pilled sheep. He has exposed the Intellegence Agencies (CIA/NSA) as enemies of the American People. He had exposed the danger of surveillance and intercepts to those seeking political office. He has claimed to be one of us, "red-blooded" American patriots. [See Note]

    Then Trump turned to Obamacare.

    Healthcare is a hot button issue for Obamacare-hating-on-the-campaign-trail Republicans. Speaker Ryan rolls out a secret bill and Trump throws his support, and his Twitter account, behind it.

    Up until the last few days, I believed Trump was "playing" (queue rope/hang himself metaphor) Ryan and would call for his resignation after the obvious debacle of "Ryancare".

    This would have been a good move on Trumps part (by solidifying his conservative support) and a win for liberty by getting the gavel from the snake they call Ryan.

    Alas, this did not materialize. Instead, Trump turned on the Freedom Caucus and, in the process, did the only thing that could sink him. He attacked Constitutionalist's because they defied him in defense of the Constitution. Trump has just turned the Freedom Caucus into his enemy and accidentally into national heros. Including heros of Breitbart and Trump's own base!

    This guy really is the gift that keeps on giving.

    The Freedom Caucus are showing themselves to be the "rebellious" (yet) principled adults in Congress. Instead of the Freedom Caucus losing seats in 2018, look for Republican candidates to run on their desire to join the Freedom Caucus. The Freedom Caucus will grow much larger if they agree with Trump when he is right and stand together in opposition when he is wrong.

    Can the Freedom Caucus carry on the R3volution?

    2018 is a glorious opportunity to make the narrative: The Patriots of the Freedom Caucus are the True Champions of the People and their Natural Born Rights.

    You might be skeptical, but all the grassroots Liberty Movement needs to do is to mobilize with this message and WILL it into reality.

    Thank you President Trump and keep up the good work!

    Note: The real three branches of government are the Fed, the CIA & the Corporate Press. Weakening two out of three ain't bad. It would be fantastic if Trump signed Audit the Fed but I won't hold my breath.
    Everybody but the freedom caucus need to be primaried. In the age of Trump, anything is possible. Politics will never be the same.

    That's what I said, Massie and Amash are absolutely doing the right thing by fighting back and standing up for their beliefs, there is no question about that.
    Trump admires strength and backbone, especially if he agrees with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    ^^^Sounds about right.

    Thing is, you can say that about most any politician.

    ...totally amoral, just interested in "winning" (election, reelection, name in paper, invites to the right parties, etc).

    And that's why the state keeps growing; that's the path of least resistance for the ambitious.

    To shrink the state requires people willing to fight, and lose.
    Why would you want to stick your neck?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumba of Liberty View Post
    I am extremely pleased with President Trump. Truly, his accomplishments are more than I could ever have imagined and we are only a few months in!

    Trump has nominated a fantastic(ish) Supreme Court Nominee. He has exposed the Corporate Press as BS propaganda to even the lowest IQ blue-pilled sheep. He has exposed the Intellegence Agencies (CIA/NSA) as enemies of the American People. He had exposed the danger of surveillance and intercepts to those seeking political office. He has claimed to be one of us, "red-blooded" American patriots. [See Note]

    Then Trump turned to Obamacare.

    Healthcare is a hot button issue for Obamacare-hating-on-the-campaign-trail Republicans. Speaker Ryan rolls out a secret bill and Trump throws his support, and his Twitter account, behind it.

    Up until the last few days, I believed Trump was "playing" (queue rope/hang himself metaphor) Ryan and would call for his resignation after the obvious debacle of "Ryancare".

    This would have been a good move on Trumps part (by solidifying his conservative support) and a win for liberty by getting the gavel from the snake they call Ryan.

    Alas, this did not materialize. Instead, Trump turned on the Freedom Caucus and, in the process, did the only thing that could sink him. He attacked Constitutionalist's because they defied him in defense of the Constitution. Trump has just turned the Freedom Caucus into his enemy and accidentally into national heros. Including heros of Breitbart and Trump's own base!

    This guy really is the gift that keeps on giving.

    The Freedom Caucus are showing themselves to be the "rebellious" (yet) principled adults in Congress. Instead of the Freedom Caucus losing seats in 2018, look for Republican candidates to run on their desire to join the Freedom Caucus. The Freedom Caucus will grow much larger if they agree with Trump when he is right and stand together in opposition when he is wrong.

    Can the Freedom Caucus carry on the R3volution?

    2018 is a glorious opportunity to make the narrative: The Patriots of the Freedom Caucus are the True Champions of the People and their Natural Born Rights.

    You might be skeptical, but all the grassroots Liberty Movement needs to do is to mobilize with this message and WILL it into reality.

    Thank you President Trump and keep up the good work!

    Note: The real three branches of government are the Fed, the CIA & the Corporate Press. Weakening two out of three ain't bad. It would be fantastic if Trump signed Audit the Fed but I won't hold my breath.
    Hey, it's been a while since we've seen this one!

    Quote Originally Posted by invisible View Post
    Don't worry, surely the trumpettes will be along soon enough, to do one or more of the following:
    A) Argue about the meaning of words like "cut", "spending", "military", "entitlement", "increase", and "budget"
    B) Tell us that their authoritarian idol really didn't mean what he said
    C) Tell us that this is a brilliant move in a game of 3-D chess that only trumpettes are capable of understanding
    D) Tell us that it's ok because obomba did it first
    E) Tell us that it's ok because it would have been horrible if clinton had done the very same thing
    F) Tell us that this is what Liberty and Freedom really mean
    G) Call CPUd names
    I have an autographed copy of Revolution: A Manifesto for sale. Mint condition, inquire within. (I don't sign in often, so please allow plenty of time for a response)

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    To shrink the state requires people willing to fight, and lose.
    Quotable.
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

  31. #27
    Was ready to one star this when I read the title, but it's an interesting post and definitely possible. @danno why when people bring up trumps tweet saying the freedom caucus is his enemy and need to be challenged in 2018 do you say it's just just words, but you bring up him saying they are great friends which are also just words? Why do you give more weight to his statement that backs your favorable opinion of him than the one that doesn't, and his tweet is the more recent statement, is it not? Thanks.
    Last edited by Pizzo; 04-01-2017 at 02:10 PM.

  32. #28
    President Donald is attacking these Congress members and threatening for primary challengers so we can do things like have moneybombs because he is really their friend and it is so much easier than endorsing their legislation and reelection campaigns to his million twitter fans.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  33. #29
    I'm glad trump is distancing himself from libertarianism. I've been very concerned that trump would be portrayed as America's one-off experiment in electing a libertarian president. It's nice that he's clearing that crap up all on his own.
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    In the age of Trump, anything is possible.
    This may be the dawning of the Age of Trumparious.
    1. Don't lie.
    2. Don't cheat.
    3. Don't steal.
    4. Don't kill.
    5. Don't commit adultery.
    6. Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
    7. Honor your father and mother.
    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
    10. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

    "For the love of money is the root of all evil..." -- I Timothy 6:10, KJV

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