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    Default CT-State House considers bill authorizing armed cop drones

    You know, when something like this comes up, it would be so nice if the government press reached out to someone other than NAACP and ACLU for comments.

    You know, just to, like, make it clear that there are other folks besides colored people and liberals who think this idea sucks goat balls.




    Connecticut considering weaponizing drones

    http://www.fox5ny.com/news/244994462-story

    By: DAVE COLLINS, Associated Press

    Posted:Mar 30 2017 02:30PM EDT

    Updated:Mar 30 2017 02:54PM EDT

    HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) - Connecticut lawmakers are considering whether the state should become the first in the country to allow police to use drones outfitted with deadly weapons, a proposal immediately met with concern by civil rights and liberties advocates.

    The bill would ban the use of weaponized drones, but exempt police.

    (Oh, like that's a surprise. - AF)

    Details on how law enforcement could use drones with weapons would be spelled out in new rules to be developed by the state Police Officer Standards and Training Council. Officers also would have to receive training before being allowed to use drones with weapons.

    "Obviously this is for very limited circumstances," said Republican state Sen. John Kissel, of Enfield, co-chairman of the Judiciary Committee that approved the measure Wednesday and sent it to the House of Representatives. "We can certainly envision some incident on some campus or someplace where someone is a rogue shooter or someone was kidnapped and you try to blow out a tire."

    (God save us from "law and order" republicans. - AF)

    North Dakota is the only state that allows police to use weaponized drones, but limits the use to "less lethal" weapons, including stun guns, rubber bullets and tear gas.

    Five states - Nevada, North Carolina, Oregon, Vermont and Wisconsin - prohibit anyone from using a weaponized drone, while Maine and Virginia ban police from using armed drones, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Several other states have restricted drone use in general.

    "We have huge concerns that they would use this new technology to abuse our communities," said Scot X. Esdaile, president of state chapter of the NAACP.

    Esdaile said he has received calls from around the country from NAACP officials and others concerned about the Connecticut legislation.

    Three police departments in the state - Hartford, Plainfield and Woodbury - began using drones within the past year, according to the American Civil Liberties Union of Connecticut.

    "We would be setting a dangerous precedent," said David McGuire, executive director of the state ACLU. "It is really concerning and outrageous that that's being considered in our state legislature. Lethal force raises this to a level of real heightened concern."

    The bill also includes restrictions on drone use and reporting requirements that are supported by the ACLU.

    It would require police to get a warrant before using a drone, unless there are emergency circumstances or the person who is the subject of the drone use gives permission. It also would require police to report yearly on how often they use drones and why, and create new crimes and penalties for criminal use of drones, including voyeurism.

    Although the bill overwhelmingly passed the Judiciary Committee, several members said they just wanted to see the proposal get to the House floor for debate. They said they had concerns about police using deadly force with drones.

    "I think that police are taught one thing," said Democratic Bridgeport Sen. Edwin Gomes. "You put a weapon in their hand, they shoot center mass, they shoot to kill. If it's going to be used, you're going to use it to kill somebody."
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 03-30-2017 at 08:14 PM.



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    your post could use some editing it is mostly white space.

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    What if they get hacked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    your post could use some editing it is mostly white space.
    Yeah, format fail...should be fixed now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You know, when something like this comes up, it would be so nice if the government press reached out to someone other than NAACP and ACLU for comments.

    You know, just to, like, make it clear that there are other folks besides colored people and liberals who think this idea sucks goat balls.
    Almost like individuals from every side might agree about something that is bugfucked. And I really hate to bring it up since Rand is doing so good, but....this is one aspect I couldn't/ can't agree with him on.
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    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    The FOX Tv show APB has a drone. The show about a billionaire privatizing police. It drops concussive charges, supposedly to put out oil fires. Another shoots fancy tasers.
    The show uses an APB app to let anyone report things to the cops.

    I'm not sure if the idea behind the show is to make us want big brother, make us want to privatize the cops (Because that has worked oh so well for prisons), or is just a way to root for the guys in blue. This isn't one of the dark cop dramas, in this one all the cops are actually good.
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    Default Police in one US state could get to fly drones outfitted to kill



    Drone attacks are something Americans hear about from a great distance, as a controversial and deadly tool of US foreign policy. But if a new bill passes, Americans in one state might come a bit closer to understanding what it’s like to have weaponized drones flying overhead.

    The new bill, designed to regulate the use of drones in Connecticut, forbids civilians from outfitting them with weapons but includes a very crucial exemption for the police. Although the details are yet to be hammered out, the bill would allow officers to use drones with both lethal weapons and non-lethal ones, such as Tasers or tear-gas canisters. (While no state in the US allows the use of deadly force by drones, North Dakota allows officers to equip them with stun guns and other non-lethal weapons.)

    “Obviously this is for very limited circumstances,” said Republican state senator John Kissel of Connecticut, according to the Associated Press.

    ( Of course, we all know police would never use lethal force unless it was justified..)

    more at link.. https://qz.com/947368/police-in-conn...ethal-weapons/
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    Default Connecticut considering weaponizing drones

    I feel safer knowing they're going to be trained./sarc

    HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) - Connecticut lawmakers are considering whether the state should become the first in the country to allow police to use drones outfitted with deadly weapons, a proposal immediately met with concern by civil rights and liberties advocates.

    The bill would ban the use of weaponized drones, but exempt police. Details on how law enforcement could use drones with weapons would be spelled out in new rules to be developed by the state Police Officer Standards and Training Council. Officers also would have to receive training before being allowed to use drones with weapons.

    "Obviously this is for very limited circumstances," said Republican state Sen. John Kissel, of Enfield, co-chairman of the Judiciary Committee that approved the measure Wednesday and sent it to the House of Representatives. "We can certainly envision some incident on some campus or someplace where someone is a rogue shooter or someone was kidnapped and you try to blow out a tire."

    North Dakota is the only state that allows police to use weaponized drones, but limits the use to "less lethal" weapons, including stun guns, rubber bullets and tear gas.

    Five states - Nevada, North Carolina, Oregon, Vermont and Wisconsin - prohibit anyone from using a weaponized drone, while Maine and Virginia ban police from using armed drones, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Several other states have restricted drone use in general.

    "We have huge concerns that they would use this new technology to abuse our communities," said Scot X. Esdaile, president of state chapter of the NAACP.

    ...
    http://www.fox5ny.com/news/244994462-story
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    If Conn is planning to invade me I am shooting down those armed drones with my armed drones .
    Do something Danke

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    Default Connecticut May Become First US State To Allow Deadly Police Drones

    https://yro.slashdot.org/story/17/04...-police-drones

    According to Reuters, Connecticut lawmakers are considering a new bill that would allow police to equip drones with potentially lethal weapons. The bill, which was approved overwhelmingly by the state legislature's judiciary committee on Wednesday, actually aims to ban weaponized drones, but exempts the ban from law enforcement agencies. From the report:

    Connecticut would become the first U.S. state to allow law enforcement agencies to use drones equipped with deadly weapons if a bill opposed by civil libertarians becomes law. The legislation was introduced as a complete ban on weaponized drones but just before the committee vote it was amended to exclude police from the restriction. "Data shows police force is disproportionately used on minority communities, and we believe that armed drones would be used in urban centers and on minority communities," said David McGuire, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union in Connecticut. "That's not the kind of precedent we want to set here," McGuire said of the prospect that Connecticut would become the first state to allow police to use lethally armed drones. If Connecticut's Democratic-controlled House passes the bill it will move to the Senate, which is split evenly between Democrats and Republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    If Conn is planning to invade me I am shooting down those armed drones with my armed drones .
    Just need to train some falcons.

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    Where have I seen this before?

    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus



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