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    On a local news story tonight, the term "aggressive individualism" was used to describe the apparent evil that exists at Uber. It was used by Jennifer Chatman, a business school professor at UC Berkeley. It was on a story about diversity reports, which most large tech companies produce, but was absent so far at Uber. Uber is under the gun for not being diverse enough. They have slightly more men, for one thing.

    This was on the heels of a somewhat orgasmic story about Hillary Clinton making an appearance. Jesus himself would not receive such glowing accolades.

    Apparently individualism itself is the new target for the social justice left. Conform to their collective, or be labeled an outlaw...

    Videos at links:

    http://www.ktvu.com/news/ktvu-local-...44437937-story
    http://www.ktvu.com/news/244605409-story
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    I self identify as an individual. $#@! 'em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fedupinmo View Post
    I self identify as an individual. $#@! 'em.
    Yeah, this.

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    I didn't know companies had to file 'diversity reports'. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    On a local news story tonight, the term "aggressive individualism" was used to describe the apparent evil that exists at Uber. It was used by Jennifer Chatman, a business school professor at UC Berkeley. It was on a story about diversity reports, which most large tech companies produce, but was absent so far at Uber. Uber is under the gun for not being diverse enough. They have slightly more men, for one thing.
    The only surprising thing there is that the issue came to fore so late. I'd have thunk it would have reared its genetically misshapen head five or more years earlier as the Age Of Obama took to bloom, what with all the yenta-like emphasis on bitterness, envy, and the hatred that is the product of such parentage.

    Apparently individualism itself is the new target for the social justice left. Conform to their collective, or be labeled an outlaw...
    Nothing new there, save the level of directness of expression. Prior, the calls of "burn the witch!" against individualists had been shrouded in a fog of the tacit, always hinting in some manner reminiscent of a weakly-scented fart. Apparently, that is no longer the case. "They're" coming out, guns blazing. After all, what have they to lose in the wake of the apparent shellacking they took, this past election? I suspect for many of the ilk, their very mortal existences on this earth seem threatened, what with all this talk of efficiency, shrinking government, and so forth. Forget that none of it is likely to become real; the merest toehold by which their shrieks may be claimed valid is all that is required precisely because shrieking is all that such people do. They are shrieking. They define it. They are made of it, which leads me to wonder what will happen to them should the day of ultimate victory arrive for Themme. On that, the frabjous day, shall the shriekers not only have become unnecessary, but dangerous to Theire victory and the new status quo? Once the city is taken and secured, are those men with all those guns not become something of a potential threat, left idle and with no further purpose to which one might apply them, given the severe limitations of their utility?

    I have to admit that there is a morbid little corner of me that would like to see that day, if for no other reason than to witness Themme turning on the useful idiots upon whom they so heavily relied to do most of the heavy lifting in the building of the Final Empire. The looks of astonishment by those imbecile "progressive" lapdogs and other stooges who today make so many strident noises about "social injustice" etc., would have to be truly impressive in pure entertainment value. To watch them being corralled and silenced once and for all by the very authorities they so faithfully served as so many fluffers in a giant low-rent global porn production, would prove most satisfying; especially the part with the cattle cars. I'd like to see just one more cattle car episode, only this time hosting those who actually deserve such rewards. Not very charitable of me, but why should my largesse extend to those who contributed so devotedly and with such dedication to the theft of my freedoms? I could watch such people literally burn alive and feel nothing but a sense of justice in the event.

    Gettin' old... and really mean. Don't care a whit about it, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    Obama of Borg... fits so well, it's scary.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post


    Lesbotus of Borg.

    YEEEESH...
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

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    There are not many hits on Google for the term "aggressive individualism", but not surprisingly, it does appear to be used in articles on feminism, Afrocentrism, LGBTQ, etc.

    For example, the following article on a feminist site by someone who feels that the American "myth" of rugged individualism conflicts with her native culture.

    3 Ways the US Uses Individualism to Blame Victims for Their Own Suffering

    Filed Under: Articles, Posts Tagged With: Fem 101 - November 17, 2015

    “If somebody hits you, don’t hit them back,” my father told me. “Run away and look for an adult.”

    It was the best piece of advice he gave me, and I’m grateful that he taught me to be nonviolent at a young age. Unfortunately, he was the only authority figure in my life to bestow this guidance. For the vast majority of the rest of my life, I was told the complete opposite.

    When I reached elementary school, I started learning about the virtues of “standing up for yourself.” I was taught that the preservation of one’s pride was of the utmost importance, even if it meant violent retaliation against those who you feel have wronged you.

    Conversely, our family was Buddhist, and we were taught to be peaceful. In addition, my parents came from Vietnam and escaped from the country when it was in turmoil, so they were more concerned with my survival than they were of teaching me about pride.

    But these ideas clashed with “American exceptionalism,” something I didn’t learn until several years later.

    I was taught that we were the best country in the world. It gave me a sense of pride and arrogance that I never had before, believing that I could do anything to anyone I wanted.

    I later learned about Capitalism, the Declaration of Independence, the Founding Fathers, and other American mythology, and my father’s advice was in the rearview mirror – a distant memory from a time I was more innocent. I internalized these American beliefs because they were taught to me by other authority figures.

    When I say “American mythology,” I’m talking about the story that we tell ourselves of who we are as a nation. I mean the constant reiteration of “The American Dream” – that you, as a strong individual, can make it if you just work hard enough.

    I’m talking about how we have a narrative of aggressive individualism that’s been indoctrinated into our psyches at an early age so pervasively that the likeliness of ever challenging it is slim to none.

    I understand the allure. Aggressive individualism is a powerful feeling.

    But this alluring mythology has troubling connotations. The more our mythology harps on how we are strong individuals that can overcome anything, the more we blame ourselves when we can’t live up to those expectations.

    We blame ourselves for our own shortcomings, which makes us likelier to blame others for theirs as well.

    Our mythology is not a universal truth. It’s simply a set of ideas – and ideas can be challenged.

    These ideas are repetitions that your pride is more important than anything else in the world. They are reiterations that everything you do – all of your successes and failures – rest solely on your shoulders.

    They lead you to hold such a strong sense of individualism that you feel that you can overcome anything despite any historical and sociological evidence that may suggest otherwise. And if you can’t overcome insurmountable obstacles, you are taught to blame yourself.

    So, to unpack such ingrained narratives, we must look at the core of these beliefs and question them – because an unchallenged idea can be extremely dangerous.

    1. ‘Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death’

    Our mythology begins with our Founding Fathers standing up to the authority of the British Crown and breaking free from their rule.

    At the outset, we are rebels – and the ideas of “independence” and “freedom” are very important to us. In this context, “give me liberty or give me death” is a powerful statement from one country to another: We will not be pushed around.
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    Fighting your own battles is seen as a virtue under any and all circumstances, even for children. Seeking help from – or working with – others is a sign of weakness.

    Leading children to believe that they must handle verbally and physically abusive situations on their own is a form of child abuse. A classmate once followed me home from school and punched me in the stomach. I took my dad’s advice, ran away, and told some adults. He stopped bullying me shortly after.

    I felt good about the outcome, but other students ridiculed me for “tattling.” They couldn’t believe that I’d let someone wound my pride that way, and at the time, I had no idea that pride was such a virtue. That was something I had to learn over time.
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    2. ‘Pull Yourself Up by Your Bootstraps’ (Also Known As ‘The American Dream’)

    A few months ago, I was heartbroken to hear one of my friends speak with such self-hating defeat in his voice, “I can’t find a job. I’m so broke. It’s my fault. I’m trying my best, but if I can’t find a job, it must mean I’m just not trying hard enough.”

    He refused to blame anyone other than himself.

    Whenever I even tried to bring up that the economy was down or that people in general are struggling to find jobs, he told me that he didn’t want to be one of those people who blamed society for his problems.

    The fact that he grew up with no money and had to take care of his family since he was fifteen years old was a non-factor to him. Those, he said, were just “excuses.”

    Without realizing it, he was regurgitating beliefs we learned in school.

    We were taught so many rags to riches stories by teachers – about how so-and-so started with nothing, pulled himself up by the bootstraps, and became a millionaire – from history class to literature courses.

    I didn’t realize at the time that the implication was that if it’s possible for them, it’s possible for anyone – that if you aren’t a rags to riches story, then you have nobody to blame but yourself.

    Not only is this viewpoint inaccurate and cruel, but it also teaches children at a very young age that lacking empathy is an admirable trait. Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps is fundamentally a capitalistic mentality.

    Empathy is the ability to put yourself in someone else’s shoes and think outside of yourself, while American Capitalism exalts ruthless pragmatism (look at how many fans the villainous Frank Underwood has), which is the antithesis of empathy.

    To become a sufficient capitalist, one must – at least partially – shut off the empathetic part of their brain and not think about the consequences of potentially destroying their competitors’ livelihoods, and in some cases, their lives.

    If a capitalist gets too lost in empathy, they could lose the ruthlessness necessary to achieve financial success. Lacking empathy mixed with victim-blaming (including victims who blame themselves) makes for a dangerous combination.

    By encouraging people to believe that they are the only ones responsible for their own successes and failures, we subtly attach morality with financial worth. We imply that with hard work comes success, which in turn means that failure comes from laziness.

    As a result, we cultivate disdain for those with lower incomes because we equate poverty with an unwillingness to work hard, and furthermore, view poverty as a trait to vilify.

    We kick ourselves and others when we’re down, and meanwhile, we root for the rich and the wealthy, whom take advantage of us all because we equate affluence with success and hard work.

    Every time I hear about someone who is struggling, I still have an initial instinct to wonder what mistakes they made in their life to become that way because I was taught the same victim-blaming narratives as everyone else.

    I’ve had to train myself to turn on my empathy and question what was always taught to me.

    Doing so makes it easier for me to challenge the systems in place and feel compassion for those who are less fortunate, and it stops the toxic cycle of blaming the victim.

    3. ‘Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness’

    On its face, “the pursuit of happiness” sounds wonderful. Pursuing happiness is such a hopeful concept, and it’s written in our Declaration of Independence.

    However, the idea of “the pursuit of happiness” will always have plausible deniability. It can always be used as a scapegoat to attack those who have failed to “pull themselves up by their bootstraps.”

    When I was in college and heard my classmates lamenting about injustices in the United States, a conservative would always chime in with the narrative that happiness is not “guaranteed,” only the pursuit is (and a speech about “personal responsibility” would soon follow).

    Therefore, one can conclude that failure to achieve happiness is a personal failure, because our Declaration of Independence implies that society has given everyone a fair opportunity (pursuit) and it’s up to the individual to create success on their own.

    Thus, those who are struggling and fail to achieve success are victim-blamed by their own Declaration of Independence, which is our sacred document. If only the pursuit is promised, the only thing we’re really guaranteed is the intangible idea of hope.

    This makes second-guessing the Declaration of Independence a very delicate act – because to ask others to question the logic of our so-called “inalienable rights” is asking them to consciously shatter their hopes, and for some people, hope is all they have.

    Many people will die defending the system that failed them because it’s too difficult to admit that the structure never favored them to begin with. It’s too devastating to accept that we were fed so many lies, and I think this is a large reason why many people victim-blame.

    I’ve seen people actually blame Tamir Rice for getting shot by the police within seconds of arriving on the scene. People have asked what the student in South Carolina did to deserve getting beaten and dragged by a police officer inside her classroom. Comedians have made countless jokes asking what Rihanna said to Chris Brown to deserve getting physically assaulted.

    In these instances, the focus is all on the victims – and we give less criticism to bullies and predators because if we condemn them, we’re at least partially admitting to the failings of our society.

    Admitting that we, in part, cultivate, create, and protect bullies is much a harder concept to swallow than figuring out whether or not the victim deserved what happened to them.

    When people spout such vicious victim-blaming rhetoric, I see people who are obviously dripping with hatred and bigotry, but I also see people who desperately fight to preserve order because are deathly afraid of people attacking the very system that they’ve put so much faith in.

    They need order to stay intact because the alternative, which is the exposure that we’ve all been sold lies and propaganda that damage the vast majority of us, is too difficult to bear.

    Or they’re so desperately afraid that the system might change into something they don’t recognize because they are currently benefitting in several ways, namely our culture’s favoritism of bullies and predators. The thought of losing their status or privilege fills them with terror.

    Ironically, in many ways, this current structure likely doesn’t benefit them as much as they believe.

    ***

    The system really only aids those who know how to obtain keep power by cheating the game. It encourages predatory behavior because more than anyone else, ruthless people reap the rewards.

    It brainwashes us into thinking that oppressive behavior is a natural state of being when the reality is, very few people are born without a conscience. But the very essence of our society encourages people to have diminished empathy and remorse in order to succeed financially, which, by definition, encourages sociopathic thoughts and behaviors.

    I believe we can stop the cycle of blaming victims, lacking empathy, and creating monsters if we collectively pondered where our beliefs came from, who taught them to us, and why we believe these ideas.

    I think most people would be astonished to realize that through no fault of their own, they were indoctrinated at an early age.

    If we can break out of our own individual bubbles and work with one another, we might realize that most of us suffer from similar hardships. We can begin building our collective empathy and start showing compassion for one another.

    And together, maybe we can see that aggressive individualism is toxic for a society, and hopefully we can realize that we’re all in this together.

    Maybe then, we can actually pursue genuine happiness in a meaningful way.


    Robin Tran is a Contributing Writer for Everyday Feminism. She is a standup comedian and blogger, and she holds a BA in English from UC Irvine. In early 2015, Robin came out as transgender woman and has written about her firsthand experiences ever since. She has performed at the Improv, Mad House Comedy Club, and the Comedy Palace, and her articles have been published in xoJane and Time.com.
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    How Disablist Western Ideas of ‘Self-Determination’ Undermine Social Justice and 5 Ways to Make It Right
    March 15, 2015 by A.J. Withers

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    In many Indigenous world views, the individual is not a rugged self-made individual, but emerges in and through community.

    Indeed, the notion of an independent individual self is a European concept that is being imposed around the world as part of a colonial-imperialist project.

    When people like me – white settlers – take up the language of self-determination, it tends to be applied to a very different understanding of the self.
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    These are just examples, there are so many things that we can all do.

    1. On the level of discourse, challenge the way that self-determination and independence are produced and work towards supporting interdependence, mutual aid, collectivity, and anti-colonialism.

    2. Work together to replace the capitalist values that are deeply embedded within activist communities with cultures of care in which everyone is viewed as making important contributions and intrinsically valuable.

    On a practical level, this means reconfiguring leadership not around work product, but around lived experience, and attributing meaningful value to things like compassion, dedication, and emotional labor – things that are, not coincidentally, also more typically associated with women and femininity.

    3. Ask for help. Disabled or not, we all need help with stuff sometimes. We all have hard times.

    Asking for help makes it easier for other people to ask for help and shows that you understand that none of us are rugged individuals. As long we structure help as nondisabled and helped as disabled, we are reinforcing problematic divisions that depict disabled people as excessively needy and nondisabled people as independent.

    4. Appreciate and celebrate disabled people’s sexualities. Begin by deconstructing the ways that you have been taught to find normative (white, cis, thin, non-disabled) people attractive. This may also include asking us out on dates and it definitely includes building safe and accessible community spaces.

    5. Develop a complex relationship with solidarity. Come to it not through guilt but through love, respect, and an understanding of its necessity while recognizing that the notion that there is an “other” we need to support is deeply problematic.

    Because oppressions are interlocked, so too are our fates.
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    4. Appreciate and celebrate disabled people’s sexualities. Begin by deconstructing the ways that you have been taught to find normative (white, cis, thin, non-disabled) people attractive. This may also include asking us out on dates and it definitely includes building safe and accessible community spaces.



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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
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    They are shrieking. They define it. They are made of it, which leads me to wonder what will happen to them should the day of ultimate victory arrive for Themme. On that, the frabjous day, shall the shriekers not only have become unnecessary, but dangerous to Theire victory and the new status quo? Once the city is taken and secured, are those men with all those guns not become something of a potential threat, left idle and with no further purpose to which one might apply them, given the severe limitations of their utility?

    I have to admit that there is a morbid little corner of me that would like to see that day, if for no other reason than to witness Themme turning on the useful idiots upon whom they so heavily relied to do most of the heavy lifting in the building of the Final Empire. The looks of astonishment by those imbecile "progressive" lapdogs and other stooges who today make so many strident noises about "social injustice" etc., would have to be truly impressive in pure entertainment value. To watch them being corralled and silenced once and for all by the very authorities they so faithfully served as so many fluffers in a giant low-rent global porn production, would prove most satisfying; especially the part with the cattle cars. I'd like to see just one more cattle car episode, only this time hosting those who actually deserve such rewards. Not very charitable of me, but why should my largesse extend to those who contributed so devotedly and with such dedication to the theft of my freedoms? I could watch such people literally burn alive and feel nothing but a sense of justice in the event.
    We've seen it far too many times already. Soviet Russia, Pol Pot's Cambodia, Mao's China, Vietnam Nam, North Korea. The "compassionate" collective turns into the conform or die collective, at which point, a large percentage of them do die. We see it in the streets today with the violence of the "peaceful" and "inclusive" left, who are in reality are neither peaceful or inclusive.
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    Here I always thought Aggressive Collectivism is evil. Good thing there are highly educated professors at UC Berkeley to straighten that out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    There are not many hits on Google for the term "aggressive individualism", but not surprisingly, it does appear to be used in articles on feminism, Afrocentrism, LGBTQ, etc.

    For example, the following article on a feminist site by someone who feels that the American "myth" of rugged individualism conflicts with her native culture.
    Wow... those people are demented in a spectacular way.

    I have a theory about feminists and so on: their mother's dropped them on their heads as infants.

    ETA: These people ought to be beaten verily. Why? Because.

    If they don't need reasons of better validity, then neither do I.
    Last edited by osan; 03-29-2017 at 03:30 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    I didn't know companies had to file 'diversity reports'. Thanks.
    The government money come with all kinds of strings attached.
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    The government money come with all kinds of strings attached.
    You mean taxpayer money? From those aggressive individuals who work their asses off to put food on their (and parasite's) tables?
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post


    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...rnet-complete/

    "The above-displayed message was not uttered by Hillary Clinton and was not published in the 2005 book Rewriting History by Dick Morris," according to Snopes. "We found no record of the quote in any major publication. In fact, the first mention of this quote came in October 2015, more than a decade after Morris' book was published, on a Tumblr page dedicated to generating fake Hillary Clinton quotes."
    Fake quote. Just sayin
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Lesbotus of Borg.

    YEEEESH...
    You just need that borg drone of hillary to have a tactical dildo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    I am not going to comment on what I did or did not say back in the late '90s.
    -Hillary Clinton
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
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    "I ain't down with that slavery $#@!. Bitches hate slavery."

    --Thomas Jefferson
    There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
    -Major General Smedley Butler, USMC,
    Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Winner
    Author of, War is a Racket!

    It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post




    That pig is disgusting, but I didn't know she was that blatant. It shouldn't surprise me though. They just say it and these disgusting people buy it. Makes me sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Wow... those people are demented in a spectacular way.

    I have a theory about feminists and so on: their mother's dropped them on their heads as infants.

    ETA: These people ought to be beaten verily. Why? Because.

    If they don't need reasons of better validity, then neither do I.
    We fight, and preserve this unique culture of individual freedom and independence.

    Or we die, drowned in a human wave of wretched refuse from around the globe than can not, will not comprehend.

    What's it gonna be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    We fight, and preserve this unique culture of individual freedom and independence.

    Or we die, drowned in a human wave of wretched refuse from around the globe than can not, will not comprehend.

    What's it gonna be?
    William Wallace.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only surprising thing there is that the issue came to fore so late. I'd have thunk it would have reared its genetically misshapen head five or more years earlier as the Age Of Obama took to bloom, what with all the yenta-like emphasis on bitterness, envy, and the hatred that is the product of such parentage.



    Nothing new there, save the level of directness of expression. Prior, the calls of "burn the witch!" against individualists had been shrouded in a fog of the tacit, always hinting in some manner reminiscent of a weakly-scented fart. Apparently, that is no longer the case. "They're" coming out, guns blazing. After all, what have they to lose in the wake of the apparent shellacking they took, this past election? I suspect for many of the ilk, their very mortal existences on this earth seem threatened, what with all this talk of efficiency, shrinking government, and so forth. Forget that none of it is likely to become real; the merest toehold by which their shrieks may be claimed valid is all that is required precisely because shrieking is all that such people do. They are shrieking. They define it. They are made of it, which leads me to wonder what will happen to them should the day of ultimate victory arrive for Themme. On that, the frabjous day, shall the shriekers not only have become unnecessary, but dangerous to Theire victory and the new status quo? Once the city is taken and secured, are those men with all those guns not become something of a potential threat, left idle and with no further purpose to which one might apply them, given the severe limitations of their utility?

    I have to admit that there is a morbid little corner of me that would like to see that day, if for no other reason than to witness Themme turning on the useful idiots upon whom they so heavily relied to do most of the heavy lifting in the building of the Final Empire. The looks of astonishment by those imbecile "progressive" lapdogs and other stooges who today make so many strident noises about "social injustice" etc., would have to be truly impressive in pure entertainment value. To watch them being corralled and silenced once and for all by the very authorities they so faithfully served as so many fluffers in a giant low-rent global porn production, would prove most satisfying; especially the part with the cattle cars. I'd like to see just one more cattle car episode, only this time hosting those who actually deserve such rewards. Not very charitable of me, but why should my largesse extend to those who contributed so devotedly and with such dedication to the theft of my freedoms? I could watch such people literally burn alive and feel nothing but a sense of justice in the event.

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    I am not yet old and am already this mean, I suspect you already were at my age too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Wow... those people are demented in a spectacular way.

    I have a theory about feminists and so on: their mother's dropped them on their heads as infants.

    ETA: These people ought to be beaten verily. Why? Because.

    If they don't need reasons of better validity, then neither do I.

    Their particular malady comes from never being disciplined, so your solution though better left to GOD, is nevertheless quite on target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Wow... those people are demented in a spectacular way.

    I have a theory about feminists and so on: their mother's dropped them on their heads as infants.

    ETA: These people ought to be beaten verily. Why? Because.

    If they don't need reasons of better validity, then neither do I.
    There is an entire generation who have been taught that they are "special", not from what they've achieved, but because they exist.
    "Rugged Individualism" teaches children that THEY control their destiny. This is the role of the father...to teach their children to take control of their lives.
    This is in opposition to the current, "I'm a precious snowflake victim" mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Wow... those people are demented in a spectacular way.

    I have a theory about feminists and so on: their mother's dropped them on their heads as infants.

    ETA: These people ought to be beaten verily. Why? Because.

    If they don't need reasons of better validity, then neither do I.
    She gives a reason for it:

    Conversely, our family was Buddhist, and we were taught to be peaceful. In addition, my parents came from Vietnam and escaped from the country when it was in turmoil, so they were more concerned with my survival than they were of teaching me about pride.

    But these ideas clashed with “American exceptionalism,” something I didn’t learn until several years later.
    "Clashed". It's a cultural clash, and your culture is bad, is incompatible, and must be eliminated.

    Granted, her logic is pretty convoluted. She mentions being "peaceful" as her value, yet somehow that value conflates and blooms into all kinds of other things. Somehow being peaceful is the opposite of being individualistic. And compassion and empathy are the opposite of being individualistic. And pride is also mutually exclusive with peace, empathy and compassion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    She gives a reason for it:



    "Clashed". It's a cultural clash, and your culture is bad, is incompatible, and must be eliminated.

    Granted, her logic is pretty convoluted. She mentions being "peaceful" as her value, yet somehow that value conflates and blooms into all kinds of other things. Somehow being peaceful is the opposite of being individualistic. And compassion and empathy are the opposite of being individualistic. And pride is also mutually exclusive with peace, empathy and compassion.
    As I wrote before, mama dropped her on her head.

    Also recall I mentioned VALID reasons. This nonsense fails to make that cut. And if you can't think clearly enough to speak as if you were not an imbecile, then perhaps it is best you hold your noise.
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