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Thread: Ryan Failed Because His Bill Was A Dumpster Fire

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    Ryan Failed Because His Bill Was A Dumpster Fire

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...er-fire-214952

    This is the thing:
    As the conservative health-care analyst Philip Klein notes, the contrast with Obamacare couldn’t have been greater. Well before the Obama presidency, Democratic congressional leaders, interest groups and policy experts prepared the groundwork for the ACA, hammering out messy compromises, aligning House committees, working with presidential candidates Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and Barack Obama, all of whom proposed plans similar to what became the ACA. Then in 2009 and 2010, the House and Senate held dozens of hearings over the course of months, not days, and accepted more than 150 Republican amendments along the way. Learning the lessons of President Bill Clinton’s prior failed health reform effort, President Obama let Pelosi and her Senate counterpart Harry Reid take the lead, but he knew the intricacies of the legislation inside and out. Ryan and Trump threw in the towel after just 18 days.
    The GOP had 6 years. They just suck donkey balls.



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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    The article goes on to say they had no idea the GOP was going to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    The article goes on to say they had no idea the GOP was going to win.
    That's a possibility but they have had plenty of time to prepare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    That's a possibility but they have had plenty of time to prepare.
    They just didn't. Stupid bastards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...er-fire-214952

    This is the thing:

    The GOP had 6 years. They just suck donkey balls.
    Ryan intentionally stabbed DJT in his back.

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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    They just didn't. Stupid bastards.
    It is amazing how unqualified they are. How stupid do you need to be for someone to bring it to your attention?

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    Almost everone in the know thought this would fail, why Ryan kept pushing it? Was it staged?

    Or were there additional purposes like to distract media's attention from news of 200 civilians killed in Iraq in US-led raid?

    This who events/media reporting cycle has been bizzare, almost illogical on the surface.



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    Being "Bannoned"......







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    This guy is a toast. Incompetence in full display for the nation to see. Concrete shoes.

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    What do you do when Americans decide that healthcare is a human right? We abandoned being a free country long ago so now Republicans have to decide how to react.

    Reactivate free market healthcare and risk getting voted out.

    American's, for the most part, don't give a $#@! about rights and want the government to guarantee the longest life they can achieve.. The constitution or bill of rights doesn't matter. Natural laws especially don't matter either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    The article goes on to say they had no idea the GOP was going to win.
    Maybe not this time, but they have a long long history of being nothing more than "loyal opposition".

    Outside of a few "true believers" they are much closer in thinking to democrats than they would like to admit.

    They really do think all of us are nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Don't think it was an intentional backstabbing like conspiring to set up Trump to be humiliated, that would make Paul Ryan severely short sighted. I think Paul Ryan had no choice but to bring in that insurance lobby approved POS. He told Trump it was passable and he probably thought it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    They just didn't. Stupid bastards.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to angelatc again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fr33 View Post
    What do you do when Americans decide that healthcare is a human right? We abandoned being a free country long ago so now Republicans have to decide how to react.

    Reactivate free market healthcare and risk getting voted out.

    American's, for the most part, don't give a $#@! about rights and want the government to guarantee the longest life they can achieve.. The constitution or bill of rights doesn't matter. Natural laws especially don't matter either.
    Yep. There is only one way from here. Looks like we will have to fight more wars to close the deficit gap. Soldier, would you fight for your country's debt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fr33 View Post
    What do you do when Americans decide that healthcare is a human right? We abandoned being a free country long ago so now Republicans have to decide how to react.

    Reactivate free market healthcare and risk getting voted out.

    American's, for the most part, don't give a $#@! about rights and want the government to guarantee the longest life they can achieve.. The constitution or bill of rights doesn't matter. Natural laws especially don't matter either.
    Fed.

    Entertained.

    Exercising petty power.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Fed.

    Entertained.

    Exercising petty power.
    What's not to like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fr33 View Post
    What do you do when Americans decide that healthcare is a human right? We abandoned being a free country long ago so now Republicans have to decide how to react.

    Reactivate free market healthcare and risk getting voted out.

    American's, for the most part, don't give a $#@! about rights and want the government to guarantee the longest life they can achieve.. The constitution or bill of rights doesn't matter. Natural laws especially don't matter either.
    This is the sad reality we live in, and the repubs don't have the balls to do what Trump and they promised. Because even the repub voters would scream bloody murder if they actually "Reactivate free market healthcare".
    Last edited by Origanalist; 03-25-2017 at 11:21 PM.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriotOne View Post
    Being "Bannoned"......






    I didn't think Ryan was on his way out.

    But if Fox is saying it,

    ya.. could happen.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    What's not to like?
    I'm lovin' it
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

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    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    That statement would have a lot more oomph if the libertarian party had the balls necessary to be a competitive party.
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    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...er-fire-214952

    This is the thing:

    The GOP had 6 years. They just suck donkey balls.
    All they had to do was to re-introduce the clean repeal bills they had been introducing all along or just go with Rand's bill. Instead....

    Of course here's the million dollar question. Where the hell was the so called "tea party?" The narrative in the MSM is that "even in red districts constituents are demanding congressmen protect Obamacare." Really? Okay maybe 100 out of 100,000, but all 100 showed up. Where were all the people who had been at all of the right wing rallies demanding this and that? Has the tea party been effectively neutered by the GOP? (rhetorical question.)
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    The Tea party has been a joke for years. I remember when I was doing the delegate thing for Ron Paul in 2012 my local Tea Party was supporting Rick Santorum, yuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fr33 View Post
    What do you do when Americans decide that healthcare is a human right? We abandoned being a free country long ago so now Republicans have to decide how to react.

    Reactivate free market healthcare and risk getting voted out.

    American's, for the most part, don't give a $#@! about rights and want the government to guarantee the longest life they can achieve.. The constitution or bill of rights doesn't matter. Natural laws especially don't matter either.
    I maybe could make some argument that the federal government could have some function to provide catastrophic healthcare coverage,
    more as a public health argument perhaps.

    But the individual healthcare could be better left to the states - states could be the association of pooled risk talked about, maybe.
    But that is for the insurance industry, not government.
    Last edited by Jan2017; 03-26-2017 at 10:54 AM.

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    Well, there are only eleventy million "think tanks" out there. One would think that at least one of them would have come up with a plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Well, there are only eleventy million "think tanks" out there. One would think that at least one of them would have come up with a plan.
    All they had to do was call me .
    Do something Danke

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    I don't live in the US and avoid MSM, so this is the first time i've seen Judge Jeanine. I am absolutely stunned by how twisted and sick her voice is... Can any of you listen to that for more than 10 seconds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    All they had to do was call me .
    You are not a government sycophant. I do not think they would allow you in one of their "think tanks."

    Last edited by phill4paul; 03-26-2017 at 11:34 AM.

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