Pretty sure Mike Cernovich is higher up on their radar.Originally Posted by phill4paul
https://www.periscope.tv/Cernovich
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
I'm an oracle I tell ya :-). As I have said many times now...Ryan being "Bannoned".
Exclusive — Discussion About GOP Replacement to Paul Ryan as Speaker of the House Intensifies in White House, Congress
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ouse-congress/
That's because he doesn't want to throw his buddy Rand Paul under the bus.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
MAGA
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
yep.. ^this^
Disclaimer: any post made after midnight and before 8AM is made before the coffee dip stick has come up to optomim level - expect some level of silliness,
The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are out numbered by those who vote for a living !!!!!!!
Art of the Rand
Rand of the Deal
I don't think Rand Paul is really a buddy to Donald Trump. Trump cares about how Trump looks.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 03-24-2017 at 03:39 PM.
Asked explicitly whether President Trump has confidence in Ryan remaining as Speaker, White House press secretary Sean Spicer would not answer Breitbart News, yes or no.
Breitbart has been pushing for the removal of Ryan.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/politi...are/index.html
Trump complained about a lack of Democratic support for the bill when he did not speak to a single Democrat about it to try to win them over. He had a majority of his own party but could not get enough of them to support the legislation either.Trump unhappy Jared Kushner took a powder on the ski slopes as health care bill floundered
While the rest of his senior staff scrambled to squeeze votes for President Trump's flailing health care package, one person remained notably absent for most of the week: Jared Kushner.
Along with this wife, Ivanka Trump, another key cog in the president's inner circle, Kushner was on vacation until Thursday, skiing with family in the posh Colorado town of Aspen. Paparazzi caught Jared and Ivanka taking leisurely strolls, enjoying ice cream cones with their three kids and winding their way down the slopes.
Meanwhile, back in Washington, Trump was fuming. According to a source close to the president, "[Trump] is upset that his son-in-law and senior adviser was not around during this crucial week." Kushner did appear at the White House on Friday during the last gasps of the Obamacare repeal effort.
A White House spokesperson flatly denied the President is frustrated with Kushner.
But it was clearly a busy week at the White House. As the health care bill teetered on the precipice without enough Republican votes to pass it, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said the President "left everything on the field" in his efforts to get the bill passed. Republicans ultimately pulled the bill without a vote, a blow to Trump's early agenda.
It has not been entirely clear what specific role Kushner, who has no Capitol Hill or Washington background, would have played in a legislative effort.
When Ivanka and the kids took off for Aspen last weekend, sharing a ride on Trump's private 757 jet with Donald Trump, Jr. and his family and Eric and Lara Trump, Jared did stay behind in Washington. However, he only worked Monday, and by that evening was himself flying out to join the rest of the Trump clan. On Tuesday, an Instagram photo from Lara Trump showed Kushner and Ivanka on top of a mountain.
Yeah, here's the next move.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.1ff88bd1b314Trump said he would not ask Republican leaders to reintroduce the legislation in the coming weeks. Instead, he said he would wait for the current law encounter problems, believing that Democrats will want to work with the White House to make changes.
“As you know, I’ve been saying for years that the best thing is to let Obamacare explode and then go make a deal with the Democrats and have one unified deal. And they will come to us, we won’t have to come to them,” he said.
“The beauty,” Trump continued, “is that they own Obamacare. So when it explodes they come to us and we make one beautiful deal for the people.”
Trump said he had no problem waiting for Democrats to seek cooperation with Republicans on health-care.
“I never said I was going to repeal and replace in the first 61 days,” he said.
In fact, Trump said repeatedly as a candidate and before his inauguration that he would work to repeal the ACA on his first day in office. And congressional Republicans have spent the last seven years campaigning to undo the law.
"House Republican leaders, facing a revolt among conservatives and moderates in their ranks.... "
So the leadership are?
Screw Trump for relying on that boob. Serves him right.
I know, what is left -RINO?
Nope, because the RINOs (moderates) would not have voted for it, or would have been absent from the chamber during the vote. They are scared of the Dems being able to accuse them of taking away everyone's healthcare.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
So once government gets into something and messes it up, it can't fix it and get out of it again?
No wonder things are so screwed up.
Well Matt, they would have to at least record a "present" to help defeat and keep the needed number of "ayes" for a majority from the yes/no/present total.
That aside, Ryan lost his RINO clan yesterday (some solid "no" and I suspect some "present" GOP votes) while the Freedom Caucus held the line.
Wisconsin Republicans seem to understand.
Last edited by Jan2017; 03-25-2017 at 12:18 PM.
Not presenting this as evidence, just an interesting possiblity, from fake news of course. One may presume the opposite is true.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/25/u...?smid=tw-share
But his advisers were more realistic. Mr. Trump’s chief strategist, Stephen K. Bannon, according to people familiar with White House discussions, described what happened as a flat-out failure that could inflict serious damage on this presidency — even if Mr. Bannon believes Congress, not Mr. Trump, deserves much of the blame.
Mr. Bannon and the president’s more soft-spoken legislative affairs director, Marc Short, pushed Mr. Trump hard to insist on a public vote, as a way to identify, shame and pressure “no” voters who were killing their last, best chance to unravel the health care law.
One Hill Republican aide who was involved in the last-minute negotiations said Mr. Bannon and Mr. Short were seeking to compile an enemies list. But Mr. Ryan repeatedly counseled the president to avoid seeking vengeance — at least until he has passed spending bills and a debt-ceiling increase needed to keep the government running.
Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018
LOL, Ryan delivers a GWB-worthy quote : 'We're not going to give up on destroying the health care system'
Last edited by undergroundrr; 03-25-2017 at 02:21 PM.
Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018
President Trump, through his budget director, Mick Mulvaney, told House Republicans on Thursday night that he was giving them this one chance to repeal the Affordable Care Act
Maybe that did happen . . . I really do not know/speculate about that, nor can confirm via youtube what I watched live via CSPAN's courtesy coverage to non-cable US citizens during the GOP House Stakeout, revealed after Priebus and Bannon walked out of the full GOP House Member meeting where they voted to vote - no holds barred.
Yep. Trump gives Ryan full support but I kinda think that bromance is over now - wonder who survives ?
4D chess is hard - all those multimatrix (if ya' speak Linux OpenSCAD)
I could be wrong of course, but maybe it is Trump's move after RINO Ryan went into hyperspace . . . checkers ?
Last edited by Jan2017; 03-25-2017 at 02:22 PM.
True. But, it was already messed up before ObamaCare too.
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
The government was in it before Obamacare too.
Ryan : "We're not gonna give up on destroying the health care system for the American people"
I admit that is very funny -
but don't let SNL know before tonight's show please - Paul Ryan GOPe could suffer harm.
Last edited by Jan2017; 03-25-2017 at 03:09 PM.
Exactly. Republicans are terrified of taking away the "preexisting condition" part of Obamacare. That's the part that makes it socialized healthcare and the part that makes it guaranteed to collapse. I heard a couple of conservative representatives on Hannity and they couldn't even utter the phrase "preexisting condition". They kept saying the "the regulation in the bill that drives up prices."
In a bizarre way Trump is right. Paul Ryan could have pushed Rand's bill and received 100% republican support. The "moderate" (socialist) republicans who don't really want a full repeal wouldn't have had the guts to face the tea party backlash had the voted against a clean repeal. Libtards are getting all of the press on the town halls because the teocons are too giddy over recent victories to worry. But let a republican vote against a clean repeal and see what happens. This bill was the dems last best hope to save Obamacare. They blew it.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
They didn't have my physician typing notes to them in a notebook computer when I was in the examination room, before Obamacare.
I think a lot of republicans want to keep Obamacare so they can have something bad to blame on democrats every election.
Were you a "difficult" patient ?
"Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
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