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    Venezuela Arrests Bakers for Making Rolls, Claims They Were Waging 'Economic War' Against Coun

    The tragedy of Venezuela's modern day experiment in socialism has progressed beyond parody.

    Take, for example, the second paragraph of this story from the Miami Herald, which describes how Venezuelan authorities arrested four bakers in response to a national bread shortage. It could easily be mistaken for a few lines from a piece of dystopian fiction, except for the fact that it is all incredibly, terrifyingly real:

    "In a press release, the National Superintendent for the Defense of Socioeconomic Rights said it had charged four people and temporarily seized two bakeries as the socialist administration accused bakers of being part of a broad "economic war" aimed at destabilizing the country."

    Where to begin?

    The perfectly Orwellian "National Superintendent for the Defense of Socioeconomic Rights" has to arrest those bakers, I suppose, in order to protect the "socioeconomic rights" (whatever those are) of the people of Venezuela, who apparently are being deprived of their basic right to bread made by those bakers. At that point, I'd be inclined to ask about the "socioeconomic rights" of the bakers, which presumably would include the right to earn a living from their work or, at the bare minimum, not to be arrested by agents of the state? But, yeah, I'm not sure logic works here.

    The "economic war" destabilizing in Venezuela and causing long lines for bread was not caused by the bakers. It's very much a product of the national government, as the government's own statement about the arrests actually explains.

    The government said the bakers were "using price-regulated flour to illegally make specialty items, like sweet rolls and croissants." Under state rules in Venezuela, the Miami Herald reported, bakeries are only allowed to produce French bread and white loaves with government-imported flour and 90 percent of the contents of baked goods must be subject to government price controls.

    ...

    Now, President Nicolás Maduro is doubling down on the economic insanity, and the four bakers arrested last week might soon have company in the nation's jails.

    According to the Miami Herald, Maduro launched "Plan 700" against what he called a "bread war," ordering officials to do spot checks of bakeries nationwide. As part of the plan to stop long bread lines, the government says it will prohibit people from—get this—standing in line for bread.

    Sure, that will work. As surely as socialism ever does.
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    I am sure this has to do with their Socialism not being run properly. IF it was it would have been a utopia by now. If only Bernie Sanders had won he would have shown everyone how to do it the right way. He would not have allowed private bakeries. All bread would be free.
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    It's hard to control the "bread and circus show" if the government isn't the only one with the bread.

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    As part of the plan to stop long bread lines, the government says it will prohibit people from—get this—standing in line for bread.


    See? Why didn't Russia think of this.. They were just ONE measley regulation away from their utopia..
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    Yeah, they can stop the bread lines if they just have somebody going around and delivering it like we used to with milk. We never had a milk line now did we?

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    If they only elected the RIGHT people and passed the RIGHT laws... then the bread would FLOW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seapilot View Post
    I am sure this has to do with their Socialism not being run properly. IF it was it would have been a utopia by now. If only Bernie Sanders had won he would have shown everyone how to do it the right way. He would not have allowed private bakeries. All bread would be free.
    Bernie thinks food lines are a good thing.

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    Socialism at its finest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    If they only elected the RIGHT people and passed the RIGHT laws... then the bread would FLOW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    It's the obstructionist counter-revolutionaries' fault.
    Either no one in Venezuela believes the propaganda, or they would literally believe anything.

    ..government might as well blame it on ghosts or leprechauns at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Bernie thinks food lines are a good thing.

    "These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who's the banana republic now?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    If they only elected the RIGHT people and passed the RIGHT laws... then the bread would FLOW.
    This is the wrong kind of socialism. We would have the kind of socialism that makes the Norwegians and Swedes happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Either no one in Venezuela believes the propaganda, or they would literally believe anything.

    ..government might as well blame it on ghosts or leprechauns at this point.
    Must be something in that agua.

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    Funny thing - my grandfather managed socialist farm planning for a region during WWII. He died before I was born so I never could ask what that was like.

    Now why were Poles or Germans able to manage socialist food planning, but Venezuelans and Soviets not?



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    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    Funny thing - my grandfather managed socialist farm planning for a region during WWII. He died before I was born so I never could ask what that was like.

    Now why were Poles or Germans able to manage socialist food planning, but Venezuelans and Soviets not?
    The Soviets managed "socialist food planning" just fine. Check out the Holodomor (sp). Also, the Germans had an industrialized society. The soviets did not. All red resources, for some time, were funneled into industrialization.

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