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Thread: How Do Trump Supporters Defend His Travel Expenditures?

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    Default How Do Trump Supporters Defend His Travel Expenditures?

    Are there any good comebacks against Trump-hating bloggers on this issue?

    https://thinkprogress.org/trump-mar-...97a#.mi8ngh17x

    And the security costs for Melania living offsite?

    http://www.snopes.com/melania-trump-nyc-costs/

    Last edited by anaconda; 03-17-2017 at 10:08 PM.



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    I mean, what good is a $100,000 travel allowance if we need the Coast Guard to patrol the Florida Coast while the Trumpster is golfing?

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    They keep calling them vacations, but they keep talking about all the important meetings with world leaders he is having there..

    I guess they don't understand how to win at negotiations. That is why they are not President and Trump is.
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    https://twitter.com/pbpost/status/842889255823294464
    ďI donít think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,Ē he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. Heís the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    So unfair. Trump works 10x more then Obama ever did. The only time Obama worked is when his party got thrown out of power. And he worked to undermine democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    Are there any good comebacks against Trump-hating bloggers on this issue?

    https://thinkprogress.org/trump-mar-...97a#.mi8ngh17x

    And the security costs for Melania living offsite?

    http://www.snopes.com/melania-trump-nyc-costs/

    Those are fake numbers from leftist rags
    ďI donít think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,Ē he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. Heís the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    How much did it cost for Laura Bush to go prancing around to libraries in her first lady "cause?" How much money was spent on Fatty Michelle's eating program? What was the cost to freedom when Nancy Reagan resurrected Nixon's "War on Drugs?" How much money was spent incarcerating people for what Nancy wrought?

    I would rather see money spent on a first lady being quiet than on her pet cause.
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    The problem is that very few people/groups/organizations are consistent with regards to their criticism.

    Principles (assuming they exist) are selectively applied.

    Before it was hijacked into an anti-Obama group, Ron Paul's Tea Party formed as a movement whose primary concern was with the GOP because the GOP was no longer adhering to its stated principles.

    Thinkprogress is not wrong in their criticism but these people are hardly fiscal conservatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    How much did it cost for Laura Bush to go prancing around to libraries in her first lady "cause?" How much money was spent on Fatty Michelle's eating program? What was the cost to freedom when Nancy Reagan resurrected Nixon's "War on Drugs?" How much money was spent incarcerating people for what Nancy wrought?

    I would rather see money spent on a first lady being quiet than on her pet cause.
    Pretty sure the "bullying" issue will soon be the next 1st Lady Tax-Payer Royale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Pretty sure the "bullying" issue will soon be the next 1st Lady Tax-Payer Royale.

    I haven't heard anything about it since last November, and doubt if it will come up. It just doesn't fit it so many ways. She'd have to work with a bunch of motley groups opposed to Don. She would also be incessantly mocked, and I doubt she has the stomach for it. The big thing is that she has a built-in excuse for getting away from that dumbass. Can you imagine periodically f*cking his flabby ass? This is a perfect opportunity for her to get away from that imbecile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    I haven't heard anything about it since last November, and doubt if it will come up. It just doesn't fit it so many ways. She'd have to work with a bunch of motley groups opposed to Don. She would also be incessantly mocked, and I doubt she has the stomach for it. The big thing is that she has a built-in excuse for getting away from that dumbass. Can you imagine periodically f*cking his flabby ass? This is a perfect opportunity for her to get away from that imbecile.
    I can't even think in that direction or I'll barf. Already throwing up in my mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    I can't even think in that direction or I'll barf. Already throwing up in my mouth.

    He's pretty hot. I'm sure the RPF ladies agree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    They keep calling them vacations, but they keep talking about all the important meetings with world leaders he is having there..

    I guess they don't understand how to win at negotiations. That is why they are not President and Trump is.
    The taxpayers already pay for one place that the president can host meetings. Why does he need two?
    Beyond hope:
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    I think [Trump] is going to cut the [Pentagon] budget.
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    [Paul Ryan being kicked out of speakership] happens soon after the vote fails.
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    Within the first 100 days Trump/Rand will have Ryan gone as Speaker.

    Still hopeful:
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    Expect [a government shutdown] in September.

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    I give Trump 1 year to put [Clinton] in jail. See you in January 2018 about this issue.
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    The Fed is NOT safe from audit, Trump has said he wants to audit the fed and we may have some bills coming up soon.

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    I have never worried about Presidential traveling expenditures. Nor have I worried about the parties they throw, or anything like that. Statecraft and business requires grandeur. Also, most of the travel costs are security, which is absolutely essential.

    You will not find a thread of me ever whining about travel expenses or security. Moving the president around is expensive, and since he is the president, he is allowed to go anywhere in the world he wishes, at any time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The taxpayers already pay for one place that the president can host meetings. Why does he need two?

    Your boy Obama didn't use Camp David much. City boy was always flitting out to California, Hawaii, or some such place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Can you imagine periodically f*cking his flabby ass? This is a perfect opportunity for her to get away from that imbecile.
    They've gotta have some sort of "arrangement," don't they? Like a "pool boy," "chauffeur," "personal trainer," "dog walker," "piano teacher," or some sort of American Gigolo guy for her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    They've gotta have some sort of "arrangement," don't they? Like a "pool boy," "chauffeur," "personal trainer," "dog walker," "piano teacher," or some sort of charade.


    "Oh, pool boy!"



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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    He's pretty hot. I'm sure the RPF ladies agree.
    Well he DOES look a bit like the guitarist for Sonic Youth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    "Oh, pool boy!"



    LOL!

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    He could play miniature golf on the White House Lawn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post





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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Your boy Obama didn't use Camp David much. City boy was always flitting out to California, Hawaii, or some such place.
    Obama cost tax payers an average of $12.5 Million a year, adding up to about $100 million total. Trump has already cost tax payers about $11 million.
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    If our beloved leaders are so beloved, let them drop all the security.

    Frankly, if I were Trump, I'd have my own people anyways.

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    Asked whether Trump was outstripping Obama in terms of sticking taxpayers, Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, questioned the accounting of Trump’s Florida trips, which he said were likely less expensive than Obama’s 2013 trip because Trump does not rely for in-state travel on Marine One, the presidential helicopter, as Obama had.

    Fitton also said that according to the best available information, Air Force One, the president’s jet, currently costs $142,000 an hour to operate – as much as 25% less than it cost to operate during the Obama years.

    “The per-trip cost is a little bit less since the cost-per-hour of Air Force One are less,” Fitton said, comparing Trump and Obama. “Now, if [Trump] travels more – it will depend in the long run on the number of trips he takes, and for what purposes. And to his credit, it’s readily apparent – and he’s criticized for it – when he’s in Mar-a-Lago, he’s doing business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agitator View Post
    when he’s in Mar-a-Lago, he’s doing business.
    Is this a fact? This might be a game changer for the furor over travel expenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Obama cost tax payers an average of $12.5 Million a year, adding up to about $100 million total. Trump has already cost tax payers about $11 million.

    And I didn't hear one peep from TheCount while Obama was spending that money. Gee, what a surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The taxpayers already pay for one place that the president can host meetings. Why does he need two?
    Because we've been $#@!ing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Thinkprogress is not wrong in their criticism but these people are hardly fiscal conservatives.
    Pretty much this. TheCount and CPud aren't critical of Donny based on liberty principles, but because they think progress just like ThinkProgress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    they keep talking about all the important meetings with world leaders he is having there..
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    Those are fake numbers from leftist rags
    Quote Originally Posted by agitator View Post
    Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, questioned the accounting of Trump’s Florida trips, which he said were likely less expensive than Obama’s 2013 trip it’s readily apparent – and he’s criticized for it – when he’s in Mar-a-Lago, he’s doing business.
    Ya leftists aren't known for being very good at math.
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