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    These people eat monkeys and piranhas. They also have the lowest rates of heart disease ever measured.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ever-measured/

    The Tsimane people dwell in thatched huts in a remote corner of Bolivian jungle, and at dinner, the main meal sometimes consists of monkey. Capuchins or howlers. Other days, a hog-nosed coon, or with some luck and a grueling all-day hunt, a man might take a peccary, a kind of wild pig. Some find piranha or catfish in local rivers. For sides, the Tsimane may gather wild fruits and nuts, or harvest small farm plots, where they grow rice, plantains and corn.

    Maybe, some will think, all that’s their diet secret.

    According to a study published Friday in the Lancet, a peer-reviewed British medical journal, the Tsimane have the lowest rates of heart disease ever measured, and in the United States and parts of Europe where heart disease is the leading cause of death, the news is expected to arouse widespread curiosity and a question: How do they do it?

    The Tsimane “have the lowest reported levels of coronary artery disease of any population recorded to date,” according to the paper written by a team of doctors and anthropologists.

    The scientists estimated heart disease during examinations of 705 Tsimane, each of whom traveled about two days by boat and road to get to a clinic. There, they underwent sophisticated X-ray scans of their coronary arteries to determine the amount of calcium plaque, a measure of heart disease. On this basis, the Tsimane measured much healthier than any other people studied, including groups from the United States, Europe, Korea and Japan, according to researchers.

    “If you think of the calcium plaque as a reasonable measure of arterial age, their arteries are 28 to 30 years younger than ours,” said Randall Thompson, one of the authors and a cardiologist at St. Luke’s Mid America Heart Institute in Kansas City. “Obviously the Tsimane are achieving something that we are not.”

    Previous studies of remote groups have raised doubts about modern lifestyles. For example, a 1984 analysis found that members of the Luo tribe in Kenya who migrated to Nairobi had higher blood pressures than those who remained in the villages. Another, from the ‘60s, found that the Masai of East Africa had remarkably low levels of blood cholesterol, despite a diet dominated by meat and milk. The Inuit of Greenland also reportedly had low levels of blood cholesterol. And electrocardiograms of !Kung Bushmen led researchers to say their study “confirmed the impression ... that hypertension and ischaemic heart disease, two of the most important heart ailments in Western Society, do not occur in the Bushman.”

    The studies of the Tsimane began in 1999 when Michael Gurven, a University of California at Santa Barbara anthropologist, first visited, and a few years later, with colleagues, formed a project to study Tsimane lives and health. What distinguishes the Tsimane research is that rather than measure loose predictors of heart risk as the previous research had done, the scientists used computer-enhanced X-ray scans, known as CT, or computed tomography, to gauge how much plaque was clogging the arteries around the heart.

    These calcium scores “are the best predictors of heart disease,” said Matthew Budoff, a UCLA cardiologist and expert in coronary calcium. “It’s a direct measure of atherosclerosis. It’s literally measuring the disease in the artery.”



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    Peccary is very tasty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Peccary is very tasty.
    I'd try monkey and piranha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I'd try monkey and piranha.
    Monkey is sort of like goat , Piranha is not as good as bluegill .
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    COOL!

    I'll also bet they are all Blood Type Os.
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    The meat they are eating is lean- not fatty like most US meats. They aren't eating lots of sugars or processed foods and are probably eating smaller amounts than we do as well as getting a lot more physical activity. And genes may be a big factor too.

    Looks like their life span is only about 42 years.

    They're hunters, they're gatherers, they're physically fit, they have a low diet in fat. But with all this healthy living, there's something really interesting going on there.

    They also have risk factors for heart disease that we folks in Western modern cultures have. They have high levels of CRP, you know, that protein. They have signs of inflammation in their arteries, but they don't have the heart disease that are associated with these risk factors.
    They have a very short life expectancy, only about 42 years. They have very high levels of infection, and they live an isolated life.
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    They live a subsistence lifestyle that involves hunting, gathering, fishing and farming, where men spend an average of six to seven hours of their day being physically active and women spend four to six hours.

    Their diet is largely carbohydrate-based (72 per cent) and includes non-processed carbs which are high in fibre such as rice, plantain, corn, nuts and fruits.

    Protein constitutes 14 per cent of their diet and comes from animal meat. The diet is very low in fat with fat compromising only 14 per cent of the diet - equivalent to an estimated 38 grams of fat each day, including 11g saturated fat and no trans fats.
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    Low fat diet with lots of exercise. (and less than one third of their fat consumed is saturated according to that article).

    10- 13 grams saturated fats is what the American Heart Association recommends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Low fat diet with lots of exercise. (and less than one third of their fat consumed is saturated according to that article).

    10- 13 grams saturated fats is what the American Heart Association recommends.
    Uh huh, and they used to say ZERO saturated fat. As I have pointed out many times before saturated fat is your friend. It keeps your arteries and veins in good working condition.


    In 1955 at the World Health Organization in Geneva, Keys offered what became known as his lipid hypothesis, which claimed dietary fat raised cholesterol, subsequently increasing heart disease.

    Initially, Keys targeted dietary fat as the culprit, but over time, he modified his argument to point the finger solely at saturated fat. Whereas unsaturated fat in vegetable oils could benefit health, he claimed, saturated fats create adverse affects.

    The American Heart Association quickly embraced Keys’s hypothesis, warning that butter, eggs, meat, and other saturated fat-rich foods contributed to heart disease and emphasizing a low-fat diet to prevent heart disease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Uh huh, and they used to say ZERO saturated fat. As I have pointed out many times before saturated fat is your friend. It keeps your arteries and veins in good working condition.



    http://drhyman.com/blog/2014/09/08/s...t-get-bad-rep/

    You do need some fats. But too much of anything is not good for you. Including saturated fats. Otherwise we could BigMac ourselves to health. People focus too much on single things reportedly good or bad for us. All are good and bad. You need a variety of foods and not too much of any of them. Sugars were not a problem when they were consumed in smaller amounts. Fats were no problem when consumed in smaller amounts. Salts were not a problem when consumed in smaller amounts. You need all of them. Too much of any of them are harmful. (I don't think they called for ZERO saturated fats but for FEWER saturated fats).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    You do need some fats. But too much of anything is not good for you. Including saturated fats. Otherwise we could BigMac ourselves to health. People focus too much on single things reportedly good or bad for us. All are good and bad. You need a variety of foods and not too much of any of them. Sugars were not a problem when they were consumed in smaller amounts. Fats were no problem when consumed in smaller amounts. Salts were not a problem when consumed in smaller amounts. You need all of them. Too much of any of them are harmful. (I don't think they called for ZERO saturated fats but for FEWER saturated fats).
    Zippy you like to be contrary just to be contrary. SMDH
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