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No talk about the Stop Arming the Terrorists bill?
Nah, they just talked about McCain taunt and healthcare.
I am still trying to figure out how his bill allowing people to get insurance through associations would solve the problem of pre existsing conditions. People who are health would not join associations where people with pre existing conditions are not charged premium according to their level of sickness. They would instead join pools with people of similar health status.
I think the only way people with pre existing conditions can be covered without increase premium would be for govt to cover it. Anything else would fail. If it was up to me, I would stop talking about it cos the only way to achieve that is through mandates and govt force.
I dont' know of any healthy people buying health care and I don't know how forcing people to buy something they don't need is good for a market place. If I go break every god damn window in my city it isn't going to make the labor and cost of fixing a window any cheaper.
Living people buy life insurance, healthy people buy health insurance. The rationale is not hard to understand, but the price of the premium has to have some connection to the risk before you can get people to pay. The problem with Rand's plan about giving associations ability to pool their members and buy tax free insurance is that at the end of the day, you would see associations of healthy people pooling together to exclude sick people and people with pre existing conditions. Those plans would be low priced and they would attract more and more healthy people to their association slowly killing off other associations
I think if he was honest with himself he would know that his plan would also fail. Also the reason why forcing people to buy insurance is not the same as breaking windows is that nothing is actually destroyed in the process. The people being forced to buy insurance are getting coverage for when they become sick and everybody else gets a lowered premium.
I am not saying we should mandate people buy insurance but the only way you can get sickly people insurance coverage is through mandated insurance. Any thing else would fail. There are no markets for car insurance for people who just got into a car accident and there would be little to no affordable insurance for people with major health issues.
You are really advocating mandatory insurance??
Rand's plan wouldn't fail because it would bring the cost of healthcare down significantly. Yes, it would be more expensive to buy AARP health insurance than it would be to buy Olympic Athlete Association insurance, but when the prices are 30% of what they were, it wouldn't be that bad for AARP insurance.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Holy cow Rand positively owned all four of the Morning Joe panel for the entire last two minutes.
Rand is learning how to speak his mind confidently, and how to show a sense of humor. He is learning how to win.
You don't think the FDA causes drug prices to sky rocket? Government Laws and regulations, that give these companies defacto monopolies. Are you saying there is nothing we can do to make any of that cheaper? Are you saying there are no jobs in the healthcare industry that can be automated? Are you saying there aren't jobs in healthcare that don't have the skill level of janitorial work? How is there going to be any marketplace for healthcare if there is no two way communication. You can't have a marketplace without demand, and right now there is no voting with your feet. When doctors start treating people like customers rather then annoyances then maybe we will have a marketplace.
Perhaps McSame was returned to the U.S. from "Vietnam" as a Manchurian Candidate. Who only made it to Senate. Maybe he was in Russia the entire time and not in Hanoi Hilton. Would seem consistent with his entirely un-American approach.
Rand has been doing non stop media interviews for a long while now, he is a man on a mission. Hardest working guy in DC.
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7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll
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