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    Warmonger McCain says Rand "working for Putin" after he blocks bill to add Montenegro to NATO

    McCain: Rand Paul ‘Is Now Working for Vladimir Putin’

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/...mir-putin.html

    Sen. John McCain on Wednesday directly accused fellow Republican Sen. Rand Paul of working for Russian President Vladimir Putin. While speaking from the Senate floor in support of a bill advancing Montenegro’s bid to join NATO, McCain noted objection from the Kentucky senator, saying, “You are achieving the objectives of Vladimir Putin... trying to dismember this small country which has already been the subject an attempted coup.” He continued: “If they object, they are now carrying out the desires and ambitions of Vladimir Putin and I do not say that lightly.” Several moments later, after McCain asked for unanimous consent to move the bill forward, Sen. Paul raised his objection and then exited the room. This set off McCain, who railed against Paul: “I note the senator from Kentucky leaving the floor without justification or any rationale for the action he has just taken. That is really remarkable, that a senator blocking a treaty that is supported by the overwhelming number, perhaps 98—at least—of his colleagues would come to the floor and object and walk away.” He then directly connected Paul to the Russians: “The only conclusion you can draw when he walks away is he has no justification for his objection to having a small nation be part of NATO that is under assault from the Russians. So I repeat again, the senator from Kentucky is now working for Vladimir Putin.”




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    John McCain... lol
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    Precious.

    I really hope Rand takes that ball and runs with it. What a pompous, whiny charlatan McCain is.
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    Many thoughts here;

    1. Did McCain just break Senate rules? Effectively, he called Senator Paul a traitor.

    2. McCain was correct in his remarks earlier this month that Trump lacks the demeanor for POTUS. Ironically, the last time I heard that argument made was with regards to...McCain, in 2008, and his tirades. It was true then, too.

    3. Clearly McCain has not given up his dreams of a groundwar in Russia, dating back to the late W. administration and Georgia.

    4. Interesting that Paul remained silent. It seems he has something else he is angling for now, and hard - a domestic goal which he wants to keep on the front burner.

    5. Also interesting from the perspective that Trump hates McCain, and is simple minded, so maybe helps Paul with Trump to be crossways with McCain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTLaw View Post
    Many thoughts here;

    1. Did McCain just break Senate rules? Effectively, he called Senator Paul a traitor.
    Yep where's the rule they used against Sen. Warren? McCain stopped speaking shortly after tho.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    McCain is a $#@!ing piece of $#@!, how do $#@!s like him and Paul Ryan get re-elected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPtotheWH View Post
    McCain is a $#@!ing piece of $#@!, how do $#@!s like him and Paul Ryan get re-elected?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Yep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    You're so obsessed with Trump, I'm starting to think you're in love with him.

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    Why does anybody consider this loser relevant? One good thing from Obama is that we never had a president McCain.
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    Same playbook, different day: Everyone I don't like is a Russian pawn. I don't know whether to credit Hillary or the grotesque neo-cons with this tiresome strategy.

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    Hahaha......Rand might as well of said "bite me McCain".

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    Over at DU, they are cheering this as Neocon McCain standing up for country over party. You can't make this $#@! up.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141729039#post9

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    Rand should say "Back in McCain's early years this kind of insult would be cause for a challenge to a duel on the Capital lawn."

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    I guess McCain's palm is getting itchy for another WAR.

    Seriously, Rand should cite Reagan's "tear down this wall". Should Republicans try to rebuild the one Reagan had torn down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiaboy View Post
    I guess McCain's palm is getting itchy for another WAR.

    Seriously, Rand should cite Reagan's "tear down this wall". Should Republicans try to rebuild the one Reagan had torn down?
    That was a wall within Germany so I'm not sure how that makes any sense.

    Rand needs to focus on what is really going on here. He needs to note that you never heard a word of criticism against Russia during the entire period when they were Communist and when they were our actual enemy. But now that they are Christian and Capitalist? Now they are public enemy #1. Frame it for what it is, a war against Christianity.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    That was a wall within Germany so I'm not sure how that makes any sense.

    Rand needs to focus on what is really going on here. He needs to note that you never heard a word of criticism against Russia during the entire period when they were Communist and when they were our actual enemy. But now that they are Christian and Capitalist? Now they are public enemy #1. Frame it for what it is, a war against Christianity.
    LOL were you around in the 1980's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    LOL were you around in the 1980's?
    Yes, I was. Today is the 100th anniversary of the abdication of the Czar, whose imperial tri-color once again flies over the Kremlin instead of the Hammer and Sickle. This is what this whole "Russia" business is all about. The people criticizing Russia today were the same group who cackled with glee when word of the Imperial Family's murder reached our shores. Rand needs to clarify this whole Russian Business for what it is- a proxy war between those who want to destroy Christianity and the West and those working to save it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    Yes, I was. Today is the 100th anniversary of the abdication of the Czar, whose imperial tri-color once again flies over the Kremlin instead of the Hammer and Sickle. This is what this whole "Russia" business is all about. The people criticizing Russia today were the same group who cackled with glee when word of the Imperial Family's murder reached our shores. Rand needs to clarify this whole Russian Business for what it is- a proxy war between those who want to destroy Christianity and the West and those working to save it.
    Yep. The greatest threat to the globalists and the atheists (including some trolls here) is Russia going back to its Christian roots. Make no mistake about it. The devil and his henchmen seek to destroy Russia because of their resurgent Christian faith. Can't dominate the world when the largest nation in the world proclaims Christ as King.
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    It is an automatic reflex for McCain. Simply stimulus - response.
    Insane Jihad John McCain is triggered by any prospect of peace.
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    This is so embarrassing for Sen. McCain. LOL...

    But watch them embrace the McCarthyism over at leftist blogs like:
    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017...king-For-Putin

    I posted the video with some links regarding why NATO shouldn't expand and the issue of Montenegro. However, can anyone post the text of the bill McCain was trying to ram through? I can't find it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by radiofriendly View Post
    This is so embarrassing for Sen. McCain. LOL...

    But watch them embrace the McCarthyism over at leftist blogs like:
    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017...king-For-Putin

    I posted the video with some links regarding why NATO shouldn't expand and the issue of Montenegro. However, can anyone post the text of the bill McCain was trying to ram through? I can't find it...

    > http://iroots.org/2017/03/15/sen-mcc...paul-meltdown/
    McCain is an ass. He never saw a war he didn't want to monger. And it has 0 to do with our national defense. I suspect he's pissed off at Russia because they upended his long string of propaganda in Syria, trying to build the case for America overthrowing Assad.

    But, don't call it McCarthyism; it's not at all. You're getting that from the MSM. They are all about calling everything this, lately. McCarthy was absolutely right, by the way. Which is why he was all but taken out. Do you realize there wouldn't have even been a United Nations, if he had been listened to? McCarthy exposed Alger Hiss; the infiltration of our media, our government, our schools...

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    Montenegro Awaits Senate Verdict: President Donald Trump Should End NATO Expansion Charade

    "The postage stamp country of Montenegro expected to be rushed into NATO during Washington’s lame duck period
    before the unpredictable Donald Trump became President.

    But Senators Rand Paul and Mike Lee, to their credit more concerned about America than wannabe foreign dependents, blocked ratification of the ratification resolution. The President should kill the measure.
    ...
    any benefit would come at a high price. Washington would likely spend more money on aid to help Podgorica(the capital city) conform to alliance standards. Moreover, the U.S. would be expected to go to war, real war if necessary, on Montenegro’s behalf. No one imagines the latter doing the same to protect America."

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/dougban.../#17075d465261

    Quote Originally Posted by radiofriendly View Post
    This is so embarrassing for Sen. McCain. LOL...

    I posted the video with some links regarding why NATO shouldn't expand and the issue of Montenegro.
    However, can anyone post the text of the bill McCain was trying to ram through? I can't find it...
    If this was like 2am in the morning I'll have to laugh more. This is how it ended.
    https://www.congress.gov/congression...e/s1827-1?r=46

    "Mr. CARDIN. Mr. President, I want to underscore one point here
    because people watching this may not understand the specific request
    that Senator McCain made.
    But we have one Senator objecting to the consideration."
    . . ."It is disappointing that one Senator is
    holding this issue up, and it is affecting our national security.
    I yield the floor.
    Mr. McCAIN. Mr. President, I thank my colleagues, and I know I speak
    for 90-some U.S. Senators with a message to the brave people of
    Montenegro who are upholding democracy, who have fought against a coup
    that would have overthrown their government, who cherish freedom, who
    cherish the alliance that it has held so long for so many years.
    We will not stop until we ratify your entrance into the North
    Atlantic Treaty Organization. I pledge to the people of Montenegro that
    Senator Shaheen, Senator Cardin, and I, and many other Senators, will
    not stop until this resolution is passed and we can strengthen not only
    Montenegro the nation and NATO, but the region.
    Mr. President, I yield the floor.
    Mr. CARDIN. I suggest the absence of a quorum.
    The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
    The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
    Ms. HASSAN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
    the quorum call be rescinded.
    The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered."


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    Just to give you a rundown on Montenegro. Montenegro is in every sense of the meaning the feudal property of Milo . He was nothing more than another Milosevikj puppet in the 90`s making a fortune by smuggling things into Yugoslavia because of the sanctions and smuggling tobacco and alcohol ( bought for pennies from state run companies ) into Italy. After Milosevikj met his end ,and he too was faced with criminal charges from the west he switched sides and organized a referendum for Montenegro to leave what was then Serbia and Montenegro. After that he continued making money from smuggling but also connected with the Albanian mafia for the drugs/slaves/organs/weapons trade and with the Russians for money laundering . The Russians invested a $#@! ton of money in the country,everyone who owned any kind of land near the see could become rich overnight. Of course after the West had a falling out with the Russians , Montenegro was forced to put sanctions on Russia ( although it was not in their interest ) because all those criminal charges against Milo never went away they were just postponed. The Russians helped some of the local parties to try to win the elections and take Milo out ,but they did not succeed and Montenegro went into crazy mode about assassinations with slingshots,coups and I don't know what else which leads us to today where the USA and EU are trying to push them inside NATO as fast as they can so to permanently take them out of the Russian sphere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demigod View Post
    Just to give you a rundown on Montenegro. Montenegro is in every sense of the meaning the feudal property of Milo . He was nothing more than another Milosevikj puppet in the 90`s making a fortune by smuggling things into Yugoslavia because of the sanctions and smuggling tobacco and alcohol ( bought for pennies from state run companies ) into Italy. After Milosevikj met his end ,and he too was faced with criminal charges from the west he switched sides and organized a referendum for Montenegro to leave what was then Serbia and Montenegro. After that he continued making money from smuggling but also connected with the Albanian mafia for the drugs/slaves/organs/weapons trade and with the Russians for money laundering . The Russians invested a $#@! ton of money in the country,everyone who owned any kind of land near the see could become rich overnight. Of course after the West had a falling out with the Russians , Montenegro was forced to put sanctions on Russia ( although it was not in their interest ) because all those criminal charges against Milo never went away they were just postponed. The Russians helped some of the local parties to try to win the elections and take Milo out ,but they did not succeed and Montenegro went into crazy mode about assassinations with slingshots,coups and I don't know what else which leads us to today where the USA and EU are trying to push them inside NATO as fast as they can so to permanently take them out of the Russian sphere.
    You forgot the part where NATO bombed montenegro:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_b..._of_Yugoslavia

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    Rand "is now working for Putin !" said on the Senate floor .
    Rand on Morning Joe's response is McCain "makes a good case here for term limits" - LOL

    Rand back on topic . . . Should Ukraine and Georgia be in NATO, with Montenegro "this is not a national security interest"

    Too many highlights of McCain over the years . . . McCain says alot of chit doesn't he ?

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    McCain: re: Rand Paul "The Senator from Kentucky, is now working for Valdimir Putin"



    Actual quote starts at 2:47 "The Senator from Kentucky, is now working for Vladimir Putin"

    Hmm... Now Rand Paul is also a Russian agent. this coming from the senator CPUd and Zippy love to quote, especially with regards to Russia.
    Last edited by UWDude; 03-15-2017 at 09:04 PM.

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    I've heard, spending time in a prisoner of war camp can cause these kinds of delusions.
    Last edited by Dr.3D; 03-15-2017 at 09:26 PM.

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